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Im sure the effort will be better on Friday. Pens defense was skating in mud the 1st period tonight.
Not sure I've seen anything like that first 10 or so minutes in some time....I think COOLMAN referenced George Chuvalo the other day...well it sure fits in this case. What a beat down early!......thankfully ole George was never dropped, and didn't know when to quit...so maybe that bodes well? Can't really get much worse than last night....OUCH.
 
I keep pointing to this summation of the playoff:
Versus Sens - 3 goals from 71, 81, 87

Rest of playoffs (15 games played total)
14 no goals
43 no goals
37 no goals
23 1 goal
34 1 goal
62 1 goal
7 1 goal
13 2 goals

8 forwards who have played at least 7 games have a total of6 goals
 
I keep pointing to this summation of the playoff:
Versus Sens - 3 goals from 71, 81, 87

Rest of playoffs (15 games played total)
14 no goals
43 no goals
37 no goals
23 1 goal
34 1 goal
62 1 goal
7 1 goal
13 2 goals

8 forwards who have played at least 7 games have a total of6 goals

Our stars need to score. Period. Need to lay it all on the line tomorrow night. I just hope Horny gets back. Seems no one else is willing to go to the front of the net.
 
Our stars need to score. Period. Need to lay it all on the line tomorrow night. I just hope Horny gets back. Seems no one else is willing to go to the front of the net.

I agree to a point, but the Pens are getting nothing from a lot of forwards. Last year, the third line carried the Pens and even the 4th line was a threat.
 
Horny and Rust skating before practice...whatever that means I suppose...definitely need more O, to take the pressure off the backend a bit. These two and the jam they bring seem imperative to have in the lineup, or Ottawa will likely have their way again Friday...has there ever been a Pens team leaking oil so profusely , at this juncture of the playoff? I sure as heck can't remember one ....unreal....
 
I agree to a point, but the Pens are getting nothing from a lot of forwards. Last year, the third line carried the Pens and even the 4th line was a threat.

If Horny, Rust and Shultz can't go tomorrow night I'm afraid we're in trouble. Barring MAF or Murray standing on their proverbial head we are likely headed back to the burg down three games to one. Which brings me to my next question. MAF or Murray? Flower has been spectacular at times and last night really wasn't on him. Murray looked solid last night. Personally, I'd lean towards sticking with MAF but I'm betting a Sully does otherwise.
 
If Horny, Rust and Shultz can't go tomorrow night I'm afraid we're in trouble. Barring MAF or Murray standing on their proverbial head we are likely headed back to the burg down three games to one. Which brings me to my next question. MAF or Murray? Flower has been spectacular at times and last night really wasn't on him. Murray looked solid last night. Personally, I'd lean towards sticking with MAF but I'm betting a Sully does otherwise.
IMO he should stick with Flower but perhaps on a short leash...he has earned it on the whole thus far and often been spectacular. I'm also not sure what message this would send to the team...he's extremely well liked (not that Murray isn't), and they tend to rally around him imo....the fact Sully hasnt named anyone yet certainly spices it up a bit...and perhaps adds some unwanted drama to an already dramatic situation, but he is the Cup winning coach not me lol...
 
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IMO he should stick with Flower but perhaps on a short leash...he has earned it on the whole thus far and often been spectacular. I'm also not sure what message this would send to the team...he's extremely well liked (not that Murray isn't), and they tend to rally around him imo....the fact Sully hasnt named anyone yet certainly spices it up a bit...and perhaps adds some unwanted drama to an already dramatic situation, but he is the Cup winning coach not me lol...

Sully always seems to push the right buttons so I'm ok with what ever he decides. If we get our guys back I like our chances.
 
I'm with t in thinking HCMS will stay with Flower.

The analysis on NHLN Radio today focused on the notion that Murray is his guy, and this therefore is the perfect time to make the switch. However, I'm thinking Flower might be (or perhaps IS) entitled to one more shot at the START, especially IF he's really begging for a shot at redemption.

Then, if he crashes again, Sully can switch to Murray in the elimination game back in Pittsburgh.
 
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I'm with t in thinking HCMS will stay with Flower.

The analysis on NHLN Radio today focused on the notion that Murray is his guy, and this therefore is the perfect time to make the switch. However, I'm thinking Flower might be (or perhaps IS) entitled to one more shot at the START, especially IF he's really begging for a shot at redemption.

Then, if he crashes again, Sully can switch to Murray in the elimination game back in Pittsburgh.
MAF is 4-1 in "bounce-back" games following a loss in this year's playoffs. Good enough for me. I would start him but, as "T" said, have him on a short leash. Whichever way they go the team has to pick it up (obviously) and play from the opening face-off like they did in Game 7 of the Craps series. Let's Go Pens! Win one with Toronto Eers in the house!
 
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I agree to a point, but the Pens are getting nothing from a lot of forwards. Last year, the third line carried the Pens and even the 4th line was a threat.

Oh, it's a long held thought in the game that it's the 3rd and 4th liners who win the Cup because the top 2 lines on the teams typically saw one another off.

Just think back to how often we heard the names Bonino, Cullen,
Hagelin, Rusty, and Sheary last year in addition to the stars. From my POV, the ONLY forwards on the team that have largely stepped up lately are Horndog and Rusty......and we all know THEIR current status. And that's BEFORE we talk about Sid, Geno, and Phil's disappearing acts, and the wasteland the defense has become.

Let's call a spade a spade; without great goaltending.......at the very least, by comparison to the opposition......there's a fair chance this particular Pens team never survives the Blojax, let alone the Craps. Meanwhile, tonight is the most important Game 4 since they got swept by the Bruins in 2013. Just wish we had some/any signs this team can answer the bell.

Well, I guess we can point to Game 7 versus the Craps; but unless they find a way to break thru the trap.....score the first goal.....and relieve at least SOME of the ever-increasing pressure on the entire team, I don't know how they proceed tonight.
 
Wow...Murray the starter...interesting move...not sure what to think. I suppose he is essentially the #1, and the future, but Flower has been so damn good....trust in Sully I guess!
 
Wow...Murray the starter...interesting move...not sure what to think. I suppose he is essentially the #1, and the future, but Flower has been so damn good....trust in Sully I guess!

I was in favor of starting Fleury but Murray brings two things to the table. One he doesn't give up nearly as many juicy rebounds. And two, it will give Ottawa a different look and something for its shooters to think about. If we can't score more than one goal though it doesn't matter who's in net. I'm looking for an ugly, scrappy, gutsy win tonight. Expect a unlikely hero tonight. Perhaps Kunitz or Wilson with a game winner. Let's Go Pens!!
 
Really had no desire to see a goal keeper change tonight. I thought MAF was more the victim of circumstance and bad luck vs poor goal tending. Lordy the defense was just disgusting Wednesday night. Hainsy watching the wrap around goal sealed the deal for the night But I am not ready to give up. I sit there and watch the Ducks play brilliant one game to AHL-esque the next. Maybe the Pens can find that same elixir? Got to get something from the bottom 6 forwards tonight or the series is in jeopardy.
 
Like you guys, I'm on record as preferring Flower tonight as a comeback opportunity; but I'm not going to second guess HCMS......well, unless MM ends up having a bad game tonight :confused:

But this call makes it pretty clear on where Sully is on his goaltending; Murray is clearly his guy, and he has no intention of sitting him with Flower coming off the bad game and now that he's (apparently) 100% healthy. I do hope RON is proven correct about MM's superior rebound control versus Flower, though I don't think he's been that bad at rebound control during these playoffs. But it's not like the Sens have exactly peppered the Pens goal with shots (at least in 2 of the first 3 games) as the Craps did.

Presumably, this decision was mostly about the 1st and 4th GA the other night.....first, when Flower failed to account for Hoffman on the 1st goal (when he took advantage of the favorable carom of the end boards) and left the near post completely uncovered. Then, he lapsed into old-time-Flower when Smith undressed him on that 4th wraparound, which pretty much broke the team's back (and any resolve it still had).

So, Sully is placing a fair amount (if not most) of the Game 3 loss on Flower's shoulders, which may or may not be fair. Yes, he largely collapsed on his team; then again, I didn't see anyone come close to picking Flower up either (even though the injuries have the deck stacked against the Pens no matter who's in the cage). Guess today is an example of the benefits of a $5.75 million paycheck, which will still cash no matter how bummed (or pissed off) you happen to be.

But it also tells me one more thing which has nothing to do with this series; there's not much chance the team's goal is to find a means to keep both Murray and Flower next season. Meanwhile, it really shouldn't take much.....I mean, the first goal will do for starters......to turn around the Pens' attitude tonight. Let's just hope the injuries.....and man, are they missing those three guys......don't totally short-circuit everything they bring to the rink tonight (as was the case on Wednesday).

Oh, and is there anyone on the four remaining playoffs teams more overdue for a bad game......or at the very least, a misplay or two.....than Craig Anderson ??? Finally, something is telling me the Sens have gotten very cocky since we went to bed after Game 3. I think a case can be made they're ripe to get knocked off after so many things went right for them in two of the first three games.
 
You fellas will be happy to know there is a ton of Black and Gold here tonight...and I would wager a good portion of them are Quebecers based on what I'm hearing...no surprise I guess Pens are very popular in La Belle Provence with the history of Quebecois players...Lets Go Pens!!!!
 
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Good job torontoeers, we need this one bad tonight. Enjoy the game!
You fellas will be happy to know there is a ton of Black and Gold here tonight...and I would wager a good portion of them are Quebecers based on what I'm hearing...no surprise I guess Pens are very popular in La Belle Provence with the history of Quebecois players...Lets Go Pens!!!!
 
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You fellas will be happy to know there is a ton of Black and Gold here tonight...and I would wager a good portion of them are Quebecers based on what I'm hearing...no surprise I guess Pens are very popular in La Belle Provence with the history of Quebecois players...Lets Go Pens!!!!

Up to you tonight, t..........LETS GO PENS !!!!!!!
 
You fellas will be happy to know there is a ton of Black and Gold here tonight...and I would wager a good portion of them are Quebecers based on what I'm hearing...no surprise I guess Pens are very popular in La Belle Provence with the history of Quebecois players...Lets Go Pens!!!!
Mr. T and his lovely bride in the house! You (and the Pens) can do it!
 
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Whadda' ya know......Anderson gives up a softie, and in the last minute to boot. Meanwhile, Ryan elbows Ruhwedel and the Pens end up with the penalty; guess we're not allowed to enjoy prosperity.

But even though the Sens have had more good chances, Pens are clearly playing light years better tonight; and I honestly think Murray has had a hand I it. Thus far, he's been VERY good. Killing off this new penalty will be big.
 
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Whadda' ya know......Anderson gives up a softie, and in the last minute to boot. Meanwhile, Ryan elbows Ruhwedel and the Pens end up with the penalty; guess we're not allowed to enjoy prosperity.

But even though the Sens have had more good chances, Pens are clearly playing light years better tonight; and I honestly think Murray has had a hand I it. Thus far, he's been VERY good. Killing off this new penalty will be big.
NHL officiating sucks! Last night the Ducks were assessed 4 penalties in a span of 6 or 7 minutes in the 3rd period. I am not suggesting any were undeserved. However on the play where the Preds tied it up there was a clear cross-check on Nashville that would have, and should have, precluded the goal and it went uncalled.
BTW, assclown Keith Jones just said the hit by Ryan on Ruhwedel was a "clean hit." Go figure.
 
Pens are starting to carry the play.......and what happens when you start carrying the play ?? You start getting some of the bounces you weren't getting before......
 
You hate to see them give up a late goal and give the Sens some momentum going into the 3rd.
 
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Even after the GA, the Pens with a VERY nice pushback. After Phaneuf's gift, I can live with the GA on a kind-of lucky play where Ryan more or less just throws it low in the crease, and mysteriously hits McArthur's stick in the absolute perfect spot.

3-0 is better, but I'll gladly take 3-1 heading into the 3rd period.
 
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And....right now we are having a nightcap at Jack Astors bar with what I would think is the only Country bar in Kanata next door....and it looks a rowdy crowd ....lay low lol....actually all the fans encountered were very respectful, except the occasional 'Crosby sucks' yelled from a car or two (funny how they all turn up in their 87 jerseys when it becomes National...but I digress)....and here come some Pens fans...Nice! They did it boys! Knotted up...lets get the next one!!!
 
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No worries Euell...lol...I wouldn't dare....however something tells me I would be of use during game 6?!? Ah man...if only I could get that time off!!!
If, heaven forbid, we lose tomorrow-give me his #. We would definitely need you back in Ottawa for Game 6! LOL!
If Pens show up to play tomorrow I think they will be okay. Sometimes it seems however they play best when their backs are against the wall.
 
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I missed the 1st period driving home from work but the national radio guys on Sirius called for a penalty and were baffled there wasn't one. not sure what Keith jones was watching. Throw in another concussion and non call. It's getting beyond ridiculous.

NHL officiating sucks! Last night the Ducks were assessed 4 penalties in a span of 6 or 7 minutes in the 3rd period. I am not suggesting any were undeserved. However on the play where the Preds tied it up there was a clear cross-check on Nashville that would have, and should have, precluded the goal and it went uncalled.
BTW, assclown Keith Jones just said the hit by Ryan on Ruhwedel was a "clean hit." Go figure.
 
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