ADVERTISEMENT

Pens vs Music City....

No wonder the ratings are so low for the NHL. That dive by PK and then a whistle takes the cake. The league wants a long series. I get it. But why be so obvious? No wonder women's soccer gets better ratings.
Ratings are up from last year. Ratings have been good in the local markets. The nhl has only had the cup final broacast nationally for 20 years which is much less than the other 3 leagues. I started watching hockey in 1975 after my dad brought me to a Flyers/Islanders game and the amount of interest in the game is much greater today than it was back in that day. Hockey is always going to be disadvantaged do to the expense of playing and not having ice available in many parts of the country. I think the game is making progress and having and all time NBA great coming out and ripping the NBA playoffs in Favor of the NHL which has happened quite a bit in the last couple of years will help the game going foward. We still have a ways to go but were in much better shape than we have been in the past.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nhl/predators/2017/06/06/predators-local-tv-rating/373217001/
 
I was and original season ticket holder for the predators from 1998-2003. I was happy to see the atmosphere in Nashville over the last 2 games. I remember some nights in the 3rd an 4th season on Monday and tuedsay nights where the crowds maybe had only 8000-9000. The weekend games always did alright. The franchise has come a long way, they are now profittable, attendance has rose 4 consecutive years and they sold out every single game last season. Its good for the Nhl to have a successful franchise in a non traditional market. I am happy after 4 games that we actually have a series. Its a best of 3 now and based on what has happened in the 1st 4 games Its kinda of hard to tell were this is going from here. But it looks like a 7 gamer which is what you want from a championchip series.
 
Ratings are up from last year. Ratings have been good in the local markets. The nhl has only had the cup final broacast nationally for 20 years which is much less than the other 3 leagues. I started watching hockey in 1975 after my dad brought me to a Flyers/Islanders game and the amount of interest in the game is much greater today than it was back in that day. Hockey is always going to be disadvantaged do to the expense of playing and not having ice available in many parts of the country. I think the game is making progress and having and all time NBA great coming out and ripping the NBA playoffs in Favor of the NHL which has happened quite a bit in the last couple of years will help the game going foward. We still have a ways to go but were in much better shape than we have been in the past.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nhl/predators/2017/06/06/predators-local-tv-rating/373217001/

I started watching about 1972. Can't decide if i prefer MLB or NHL more. I guess it depends on how the Pirates are doing in a particular year. But one thing I feel strongly about is that the game as refereed in the playoffs is a bad product to the casual observer. The beauty of the game turns into a grinding, violent scrum where bounces off legs are just as important as playmaking.
 
I started watching about 1972. Can't decide if i prefer MLB or NHL more. I guess it depends on how the Pirates are doing in a particular year. But one thing I feel strongly about is that the game as refereed in the playoffs is a bad product to the casual observer. The beauty of the game turns into a grinding, violent scrum where bounces off legs are just as important as playmaking.
Most of the complaints from the casual observers come from their inability to follow the puck. Violent scrums are great but you also need the games most skillfull players to have room to display their skills. The elimination of the 2 line pass really opened up the game. Sometimes the refs get in the way of the play to much but the game is allot more popular today than it was in the 70's. Before the 1st puck was dropped in the 2017 playoffs the hot favorite was the blackhawks and they didn't even win one playoff game. The things that playout in the Nhl playoffs on an annual basis don't happen in any other sport. Everyone knew who was gonna play for the NBA championchip the 1st game of the season. The NFL playoffs have had drama at times and upsets but you only have to win 4 games if your a wildcard an 3 if you get a bye. Its allot different than having to win 16 games.
 
Here is my thought on the last two that fit e same theme over and over......Sid was great last night and the rest of the team sucked. Again zero secondary scoring. Geno doesn't appear to even have made the trip. Kessel spraying shots like a blind man with an AR 15. 62 sucks. Not much from 43, 7, 72, and 17. At least Archibald was noticeable in limited action. The entire defensive corp looked slow and out of position all night but to be fair, the forwards generally weren t supporting.

The Pens won the cup last year because of the depth within the 4 lines. This year, the same forwards don't seem to have any sense of urgency or even desire. That was a disgusting 2 game trip.

We knew....and if you didn't (and I don't mean you personally, OM), you were in a horrible state of denial.....coming into the Columbus series this wasn't remotely as good a team as the 2016 version. Speaking only for myself, I think it's an absolute miracle they're manuevered themselves within 2 wins of repeating.

I honestly can't figure Geno out, at least other than (IMO) the fact the Preds have successfully gotten under his skin......which is usually a far more effective approach than trying to out-physical him. But as my redneck Southern pals say, he's been as useless thus far as tits on a boar hog. Not much more to say about Kessel than has already been said numerous times.

It was damned tough listening to NHLN Radio today; the network has totally fleed a Penguins ship they were never aboard to begin with, and which they now think is totally in flames. They feel the Preds badly outplayed them last night; maybe I wasn't watching as closely as I thought, but myself felt as though it was easily the most even game of the series.

But Gawd, do they all of a sudden love the city of Nashville. But why is it I find ir hard to believe they'd be creaming their jeans over Nashville if the opponent was Toronto, or Montreal, or Edmonton ?? They're already making fun of Pittsburgh, saying they can't compete with the Nashville enthusiasm; you'd never hear these guys hanging their hometown out to dry in precisely the same way.

Meanwhile, am I the only one who feels the Finals are somewhat taking on the appearance of the Ottawa series ?? Sens carried play in the first 3 games, after which the Pens pretty much dominated (even though they lost 2 of the 4). Nashville carried the play in the first 2 games (with nothing to show for their efforts), while the Pens began to level the competitive ice in Nashville (also with nothing to show for their efforts).

But even though they've lost 2 straight, I think we're seeing a majorly better effort from the Pens than they put out in Games 1 & 2. For that reason, I'm generally positive about Game 5 if they can get competitive goaltending. Of course, it would help if the top of the roster started playing like it, while Nashville discovers a new Conor Sheary/Brian Rust type from the bottom of their roster seemingly every game.

I do think the Preds are a fair distance better than Ottawa. And after winning last night.....which the Preds had to do.....the pressure does revert to the Pens to hold serve on Thursday. However, I still say that Rinne has to prove he's regained his confidence on the road.
 
We knew....and if you didn't (and I don't mean you personally, OM), you were in a horrible state of denial.....coming into the Columbus series this wasn't remotely as good a team as the 2016 version. Speaking only for myself, I think it's an absolute miracle they're manuevered themselves within 2 wins of repeating.

I honestly can't figure Geno out, at least other than (IMO) the fact the Preds have successfully gotten under his skin......which is usually a far more effective approach than trying to out-physical him. But as my redneck Southern pals say, he's been as useless thus far as tits on a boar hog. Not much more to say about Kessel than has already been said numerous times.

It was damned tough listening to NHLN Radio today; the network has totally fleed a Penguins ship they were never aboard to begin with, and which they now think is totally in flames. They feel the Preds badly outplayed them last night; maybe I wasn't watching as closely as I thought, but myself felt as though it was easily the most even game of the series.

But Gawd, do they all of a sudden love the city of Nashville. But why is it I find ir hard to believe they'd be creaming their jeans over Nashville if the opponent was Toronto, or Montreal, or Edmonton ?? They're already making fun of Pittsburgh, saying they can't compete with the Nashville enthusiasm; you'd never hear these guys hanging their hometown out to dry in precisely the same way.

Meanwhile, am I the only one who feels the Finals are somewhat taking on the appearance of the Ottawa series ?? Sens carried play in the first 3 games, after which the Pens pretty much dominated (even though they lost 2 of the 4). Nashville carried the play in the first 2 games (with nothing to show for their efforts), while the Pens began to level the competitive ice in Nashville (also with nothing to show for their efforts).

But even though they've lost 2 straight, I think we're seeing a majorly better effort from the Pens than they put out in Games 1 & 2. For that reason, I'm generally positive about Game 5 if they can get competitive goaltending. Of course, it would help if the top of the roster started playing like it, while Nashville discovers a new Conor Sheary/Brian Rust type from the bottom of their roster seemingly every game.

I do think the Preds are a fair distance better than Ottawa. And after winning last night.....which the Preds had to do.....the pressure does revert to the Pens to hold serve on Thursday. However, I still say that Rinne has to prove he's regained his confidence on the road.

The Pens need to win two home games on home ice to win the cup. It's still well within our reach despite what the talking heads say. And never, ever forget how resilient this team is. I'm still confident the Pens win this series. The heart of a champion will reign sumpreme. When we win tomorrow night a HUGE burden will be placed upon the Preds shoulders. Facing elimination we shall see how the inexperienced Preds react. Let's Go Pens!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Euell
Very glad they killed off the penalty and protected the lead.....but the Preds seem to have righted their ship and leveled out the ice. Happily, we're still up two after the best opening 5 minutes of the entire 2017 playoffs.
 
Rinne looks like a minor leaguer tonight.....he should have been been sent to the showers after the Schultz goal. Will be interested to see if Laviolette bails on him coming out the 2nd.

Meanwhile, the one thing this team just doesn't have right now.....and this is no secret.....is anyone on defense who can carry the puck out of their own zone. The Preds simply push their forwards up the ice and disrupt almost everything they try to do. They've got Kessel cheating back to help out, but a key attacker is therefore stuck trailing the play.

Of course, if they keep on scoring 3 a period, it probably won't matter too much.
 
Other problem in the 1st was faceoffs:

Sid 2-3
Geno 2-2 (pretty good by his standards)
Cullen 1-5
Rowney 2-1

Fisher 4-1
Gaudreau 2-1
Jarnkrok 4-3
Sissons 1-2
 
if Saros gives up a couple more, does Laviolette leave him to the wolves......or could he actually put Rinne back in ?? Myself, I think he'll let Saros China Syndrome himself.....
 
  • Like
Reactions: torontoeers
It always worries me that a game gets out of hand and the opponents start looking to maim somebody (and they usually look for #87.)
 
So, the Preds suffer an injury to that impregnable Top 4 defense........ah soooooooo
 
if Saros gives up a couple more, does Laviolette leave him to the wolves......or could he actually put Rinne back in ?? Myself, I think he'll let Saros China Syndrome himself.....
I agree. I don't see him putting Pekka back in at all.
 
It always worries me that a game gets out of hand and the opponents start looking to maim somebody (and they usually look for #87.)

Agreed, but the Preds need as many bodies as they can muster for an elimination Game 6. They can't afford to take cheap shots and risk a suspension. Meanwhile......and not that the cement heads need anymore ammo against Sid......but I expect them to spend most of the next 2 days moaning about the water bottle thing while ignoring the ass kicking.
 
  • Like
Reactions: torontoeers
I'm sure you guys realize that three times this year in SC playoffs a team has lost by 7 goals and in each instance they came back and won the next game. Now I am not generally superstitious, but a 6-0 win is good enough for me! LOL!
 
I'm sure you guys realize that three times this year in SC playoffs a team has lost by 7 goals and in each instance they came back and won the next game. Now I am not generally superstitious, but a 6-0 win is good enough for me! LOL!

So, what you're saying is the Pens need to get it to 8 then ???
 
  • Like
Reactions: Euell
So, the assumption the Preds are unbeatable in Game 6 has already started.....actually, it started earlier today when all the mouthpieces on NHLN Radio said the Penguins would need 7 games to win the Cup, while the Preds would only need 6. In other words, regardless what the Preds did tonight, the Pens simply cannot beat them in Nashville.

If that's the case, why not just skip Game 6.....stay in Pittsburgh.......and then play Game 7 on Sunday for all the marbles. But under the assumption you can't do that.....and Game 6 actually has to be played.....I think the Pens might actually have a shot.

Of course, they cleaned up the PPGPA with the Sens in Game 5, and couldn't turn the trick on the road in Game 6. But it is just blind ignorance of me to think the Pens are actuallly going to push the Preds on Sunday, and actually can beat them in Nashville ??

No matter what happens, we know the Pens come into Game 6 on a roll they couldn't imagine as little as 2 days ago..... and all the Nashville surprises are out of the bag. And finally, the pressure is squarely on the Preds.....and that's will Pekka Rinne in goal.

Honestly, I'll take my chances with the Pens.
 
Do we go to bed tonight with our 5th Cup ???

Gonna be very tough......and I'm not sure I'm necessarily betting on it.....but I think the Pens chances to win are at least fair; certainly better than last weekend. Meanwhile, been reading Ian Cole's comments about the Nashville ice being THE worse on which he's EVER played.

The same way they let the grass grow in State College and South Bend to slow a faster opponent, it sounds to me like the Bridgestone crew is trying hard to use bad ice to negate the Pens' skill advantage.
 
Ratings are up from last year. Ratings have been good in the local markets. The nhl has only had the cup final broacast nationally for 20 years which is much less than the other 3 leagues. I started watching hockey in 1975 after my dad brought me to a Flyers/Islanders game and the amount of interest in the game is much greater today than it was back in that day. Hockey is always going to be disadvantaged do to the expense of playing and not having ice available in many parts of the country. I think the game is making progress and having and all time NBA great coming out and ripping the NBA playoffs in Favor of the NHL which has happened quite a bit in the last couple of years will help the game going foward. We still have a ways to go but were in much better shape than we have been in the past.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nhl/predators/2017/06/06/predators-local-tv-rating/373217001/

I thought I heard the Game 5 ratings fell off the table versus the most recent years......down to something like 2012 levels. If so, it sounds like those with no dog in this particular hunt watched everything BUT the game.

I guess I'm assuming they just expected the Pens to win, so why watch. Presumably, the ratings will be a bit better tonight.
 
In other League news affecting the Pens.....and everyone else in the League.....Larry Brooks of the NY Post is reporting the 2017/18 cap will be flat around the current $73 million, meaning the Players will not be exercising the escalator clause against their escrow (which nobody, aside the accountants, seems to understand).

About the only team this benefits is Vegas, who is already turning the gears against the rest of the League to take on bad contracts in exchange for nice assets like high Draft choices (particularly in 2018 and 2019). Teams like the Black Hawks (though they're going to pay somebody to take on some of their bad paper).....and teams needing cap space to sign their own FA's....like Tampa and Columbus.....will likely be most hurt.

Under the assumption the Pens can move Flower to someone.....and Kunitz and Dupuis (and probably Bonino) fall off naturally......they shouldn't be in too terrible shape going into next season with the RFA's they'd like to sign (Dumo, Sheary, and Schultz). Obviously, they'd dearly love to move Carl Hagelin to Vegas, but it's going to take some fairly serious horse-trading (probably including a #1) to make it happen. I still can't figure out what they're going to do with Maatta in the expansion Draft.

Meanwhile, I have a feeling Bonino wouldn't mind coming back; but under the assumption somebody offers him 4 years $15-16 million.....like, say, New Jersey (with cap space coming out the wazoo) or Carolina.....there's no possible way he can turn down that kind of deal.
 
Do we go to bed tonight with our 5th Cup ???

Gonna be very tough......and I'm not sure I'm necessarily betting on it.....but I think the Pens chances to win are at least fair; certainly better than last weekend. Meanwhile, been reading Ian Cole's comments about the Nashville ice being THE worse on which he's EVER played.

The same way they let the grass grow in State College and South Bend to slow a faster opponent, it sounds to me like the Bridgestone crew is trying hard to use bad ice to negate the Pens' skill advantage.

Yes! It ends tonight boys! I have a feeling Murray will play his best game of the post season and the Pens will be opportunistic on the PP. I really think we broke the Preds last game. The fight will be there but talent will prevail. Sid and the kids are feeling it, Geno is feeling it, Phil is feeling it and good lord Kunitz has been reborn! It's all coming together and tonight we hoist the cup! Let's Go Pens!!!!
 
Well, whaddya know about this.....the Preds have slapped a gag order on big mouth Subban.

According to Puck Daddy, he last spoke with reporters Thursday night and has been unavailable to the Press since..... even giving the finger to the NHL. Supposedly, the PHWA has filed some kind of grievance with the League, claiming rules require him to be made available to the Press after the Sunday skate.

If the uber-sanctimonious Puck Daddy is moaning, that's must be a pretty big deal with the scribes. Of course, they adore when he grabs the microphone, whether he's being candid or just outright bull-shitting about an opponent he doesn't like.

Sounds to me like the wonderful and almighty Preds......who we all know EVERYONE loves......is finally feeling the pressure after enjoying a 24 hour/day parade the past 2 weeks. Probably won't have much to do with Game 6, but anything which upsets their magic carpet ride......even a little bit......is enjoyable to those of us who won't need to hear the words NASHVILLE and PREDATORS again until opening night of the 2017-18 season.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Euell
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT