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The ideology is anti-Christ MWV. That is true. Socialists are people who adopt the ideology and again as near as I can find those who do practice it and accept it exclusively absent any Capitalist leanings almost always reject Godly authority in preference or replacement for the State's which by definition means a rejection of Christ.
to quote the great Margaret Thatcher......"socialism is ok until you run out of other people
It’s a very poor representation of what socialism actually is, and it’s not an entirely accurate quote of what Thatcher was saying either.to quote the great Margaret Thatcher......"socialism is ok until you run out of other people
s money"......that pretty much sums it up
It’s a very poor representation of what socialism actually is, and it’s not an entirely accurate quote of what Thatcher was saying either.
But socialism does prevent the private ownership of production, which limits the amount of wealth one can create individually
But socialism doesn’t work, and MLK didn’t advocate for socialist solutions.....because no one can point to a successful “pure” socialist nation that allows for the worship of Christ.Back during the Great Depression, didn't Father Coughlin call for the nationalization of major industries like railroad and banking? But, he wasn't a man of God or anything like that......was he?
But socialism doesn’t work, and MLK didn’t advocate for socialist solutions.....because no one can point to a successful “pure” socialist nation that allows for the worship of Christ.
Yet, he gets to determine who on the board has credibility and accuse other members of avoiding the issues through deflection.
Back during the Great Depression, didn't Father Coughlin call for the nationalization of major industries like railroad and banking? But, he wasn't a man of God or anything like that......was he?
But socialism doesn’t work, and MLK didn’t advocate for socialist solutions.....because no one can point to a successful “pure” socialist nation that allows for the worship of Christ.
Yet, he gets to determine who on the board has credibility and accuse other members of avoiding the issues through deflection.
to quote the great Margaret Thatcher......"socialism is ok until you run out of other people
s money"......that pretty much sums it up
Sad flailing little man
You Sir have no idea how much your suggestions to me the other day that Dr. King at his core was a Socialist upset me. Living here in Atlanta, knowing many of the people who knew Dr. King best, I was frustrated in my inability to convince you during our discussion that at his core, Dr. King was a Christian believer in the shed blood of Christ and nothing ever replaced that core belief in him!
Don't know if you've ever visited it, but through the power of the internet I'm linking you to Dr. King's memorial to his Life's work located right here in Atlanta: The King memorial center for the study of non violent social change. It is here where one can learn the true heart of this warrior for Almighty God. It is here where you can directly peruse through its archives to read his inner most thoughts, desires, and hopes for the redemption of his fellow Man. You will not find here only his devotion to atheistic Socialism...although you certainly will find his discussions of it, along with other concepts to effect social change like the philosophy of non violence which Christ himself taught. However since you quoted so much of Dr. King...selectively choosing that which fit your argument and ignoring the essence of the Man himself... I thought you'd also consider reading this particular quote from him written back in the early 40's while he was still in Seminary learning his Life's calling:
God’s Judgement on Western Civilization:
"One of the most persistent notes in the Old Testament is the affirmation that God is creator of the World. One of the questions that continually arises in the minds of men is the relationship of God to the nations of the World. The Old Testament is emphatic that God is the maker of Nations and the breaker of nations when they fail to follow his commands".
Dr. Martin Luther King.
link:
http://www.thekingcenter.org/archive/document/gods-judgment-western-civilization
This was the true heart and belief of Dr. King. There is so much more here to read and learn about this Man of God beyond the limited scope you quoted of him in your posts to me, and I'd encourage you to spend some time reading a broader scope of these quotes rather the ones you selected in a failed attempt to define a Man who at his core, had a heart for Almighty God above that of a Godless State. Here, you will learn about the true Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, and what his Life's calling was all about.
Link to King Center for non violent social change:
http://www.thekingcenter.org/
Who do the Socialists get their money from to redistribute when they get rid of wealthy people?
How are there any wealthy people under a Socialist system anyway? Aren't all incomes supposed to be equal or at least equally distributed so no one has anymore than anyone else? Why it's a veritable worker's paradise don't ya know Snow Sled Baby?
Socialists...UNITE!!!!!!!
Right. Who will pay for their welfare?
MLK did not dream about welfare or working at Mcdonalds.
"NO" what I'm sayin?
Who do the Socialists get their money from to redistribute when they get rid of wealthy people?
How are there any wealthy people under a Socialist system anyway? Aren't all incomes supposed to be equal or at least equally distributed so no one has anymore than anyone else? Why it's a veritable worker's paradise don't ya know Snow Sled Baby?
Socialists...UNITE!!!!!!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thered...about-socialism-redistribution-of-wealth/amp/MLK did not dream about welfare or working at Mcdonalds.
"NO" what I'm sayin?
I never once advocated for a communist systemBoomboom521 and MWV...they are both ready to surrender their incomes for redistribution to make it work and prove their point!
I never once said that MLK advocates for a complete overturn of our capitalist system....only that he advocated for socialist solutions for economic issues.....which he did. No matter how many bs posts you make trying to change the narrative of the thread. MWV never ONCE advocated for the change to a socialist system in the posts I’ve read. I know I never did, because I don’t believe in it. I HAVE however said that MLK advocated for socialist solutions, and that Marxism and the Communist governments that came to pass under the scope of his political assertions were at their core remarkably different.He in fact said "Let Freedom ring" not
"Let Socialism ring"
Calling the late great Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Jr. a "Socialist" is like calling Barrack Obama an "Islamist".
Leftists get their panties all stained when their "Dear Leader" (who was in fact a Socialist) is also called a Muslim.
Yet Obama in fact had more in common with Islam than Doctor King had in common with Marxism. However they want to re write his (Dr. King's) core belief system (which was Christian) and I refuse to sit here and let them!
I never once advocated for a communist system
I believe - you self righteous fool - in socialist solutions to many problems. I believe in free enterprise. I believe in democracy, and a representative government.Of course not. You believe in the pursuit of private wealth accumulation, ability of the individual to seek their desires and keep whatever they produce or create without it being confiscated by an ever expanding Government. You've always stood for free markets, limited Government, morality, Faith and Freedom!
You've been very clear about all of that boom.
I never once said that MLK advocates for a complete overturn of our capitalist system....only that he advocated for socialist solutions for economic issues.....which he did. No matter how many bs posts you make trying to change the narrative of the thread. MWV never ONCE advocated for the change to a socialist system in the posts I’ve read. I know I never did, because I don’t believe in it. I HAVE however said that MLK advocated for socialist solutions, and that Marxism and the Communist governments that came to pass under the scope of his political assertions were at their core remarkably different.
I believe - you self righteous fool - in socialist solutions to many problems. I believe in free enterprise. I believe in democracy, and a representative government.
You conflate everything you read different than your own opinion into one mass of ridiculousness. Doesn’t make it so, outside of your head.
I believe - you self righteous fool - in socialist solutions to many problems. I believe in free enterprise. I believe in democracy, and a representative government.
You conflate everything you read different than your own opinion into one mass of ridiculousness. Doesn’t make it so, outside of your head.
That post makes no sense. I just said that I never claimed he was a socialist....he very well might have been. And playing a racism card, as if though that makes MLK’s socialist ideology less socialist in nature, is just your sad little bs. And the pages are filled with YOU flailing about, after being schooled on the fact that MLK had socialist ideology....and you have no real basic understanding of what Marxism actually is. With a touch of your self righteous “I’m a better Christian than you” bs thrown at MWV, and also a little of your pitiful aggressive demeaning hidden behind the guise of tolerance and a desire to understand. Oh and I forgot your questions. Your semi-rhetorical, loaded, gotcha questions that you try to use to change the narrative into what you want it to be, so you can sadly claim a small little victory in the argument that you morph from the page into your own head.If you or MWV agree Dr. King was not a Socialist what the Hell did we spend 10 pages arguing about?
All I said was he saw Socialist solutions as possible remedies to correct the immorality of racism he viewed as a Christian. Neither of you seemed to believe that was his motivation....only his Socialist ideology to correct the evils of Capitalism.
Pretty much every conversation I’ve had with you. Even when discussing my own personal spiritual beliefs. It’s fvcking pitiful, really.Is that opinion you have of me relative to this particular debate or an absolute which you claim doesn't exist?
That post makes no sense. I just said that I never claimed he was a socialist....he very well might have been. And playing a racism card, as if though that makes MLK’s socialist ideology less socialist in nature, is just your sad little bs. And the pages are filled with YOU flailing about, after being schooled on the fact that MLK had socialist ideology....and you have no real basic understanding of what Marxism actually is. With a touch of your self righteous “I’m a better Christian than you” bs thrown at MWV, and also a little of your pitiful aggressive demeaning hidden behind the guise of tolerance and a desire to understand. Oh and I forgot your questions. Your semi-rhetorical, loaded, gotcha questions that you try to use to change the narrative into what you want it to be, so you can sadly claim a small little victory in the argument that you morph from the page into your own head.
Round and round we go. Socialist solutions are at work here to success. They worked in higher volume with success in other nations. Capitalism was close to failure, and socialist solutions brought it back from near death.I believe Socialism fails wherever it is tried and history is replete with its failures. I also believe it frustrates the Socialist out of you that you cannot point to one historical example of its unquestioned ongoing success.
Now go ahead and start naming Capitalist countries like the good old USA as Socialist experiments that worked and remember to leave out places like Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, East Germany, North Korea, Vietnamese North, Yugoslavia, Cuba, Nicaragua, and of course Mother Russia of the now defunct Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
It’s a ridiculous question - and you’d know that if you had even the basic understanding that socialism, Marxism, Communism even Leninism have distinct differences. Socialism is the control of the production or the industry by the people not individuals. Whether the representative of the people is an elected representative government, a communist state, or some collective (such as a worker union for example) is dependent on the system in question.I do all of that and still manage to stifle answers to my meaningless questions from you boom? Why don't you just try a meaningless answer then?
Try this. Are Socialist residents free to criticize their Socialist leaders or vote them out of Office if they don't like the Socialism or simply freely leave if they can't get it to their liking?
Just give me a silly nonsensical answer to that one boom instead of avoiding it. I know it's a self righteous "got cha" question but you should still be able to knock that one out of the park because I'm such a pompous mofo even asking it!
Pretty much every conversation I’ve had with you. Even when discussing my own personal spiritual beliefs. It’s fvcking pitiful, really.
It’s a ridiculous question - and you’d know that if you had even the basic understanding that socialism, Marxism, Communism even Leninism have distinct differences. Socialism is the control of the production or the industry by the people not individuals. Whether the representative of the people is an elected representative government, a communist state, or some collective (such as a worker union for example) is dependent on the system in question.
So the answer to your ridiculous question depends upon the system in which you are referring. Now I’m sure you are referring to one of the communist governments in which you listed in the above post - to which the answer is no - but those nations didn’t follow Marxism, and did not prevent the creation of a ruling elite like socialism advocates for and requires to work effectively.
It’s a ridiculous question - and you’d know that if you had even the basic understanding that socialism, Marxism, Communism even Leninism have distinct differences. Socialism is the control of the production or the industry by the people not individuals. Whether the representative of the people is an elected representative government, a communist state, or some collective (such as a worker union for example) is dependent on the system in question.
So the answer to your ridiculous question depends upon the system in which you are referring. Now I’m sure you are referring to one of the communist governments in which you listed in the above post - to which the answer is no - but those nations didn’t follow Marxism, and did not prevent the creation of a ruling elite like socialism advocates for and requires to work effectively.
It’s a ridiculous question - and you’d know that if you had even the basic understanding that socialism, Marxism, Communism even Leninism have distinct differences. Socialism is the control of the production or the industry by the people not individuals. Whether the representative of the people is an elected representative government, a communist state, or some collective (such as a worker union for example) is dependent on the system in question.
So the answer to your ridiculous question depends upon the system in which you are referring. Now I’m sure you are referring to one of the communist governments in which you listed in the above post - to which the answer is no - but those nations didn’t follow Marxism, and did not prevent the creation of a ruling elite like socialism advocates for and requires to work effectively.
Round and round we go. Socialist solutions are at work here to success. They worked in higher volume with success in other nations. Capitalism was close to failure, and socialist solutions brought it back from near death.
But you keep spinning around with your circular logic. Doesn’t change the FACT that socialism isn’t communism, and MLK believed in socialist ideology. Blah blah blah.