to MountaineerWV re: Dr. King

[atlkvb]

You Sir have no idea how much your suggestions to me the other day that Dr. King at his core was a Socialist upset me. Living here in Atlanta, knowing many of the people who knew Dr. King best, I was frustrated in my inability to convince you during our discussion that at his core, Dr. King was a Christian believer in the shed blood of Christ and nothing ever replaced that core belief in him!

Don't know if you've ever visited it, but through the power of the internet I'm linking you to Dr. King's memorial to his Life's work located right here in Atlanta: The King memorial center for the study of non violent social change. It is here where one can learn the true heart of this warrior for Almighty God. It is here where you can directly peruse through its archives to read his inner most thoughts, desires, and hopes for the redemption of his fellow Man. You will not find here only his devotion to atheistic Socialism...although you certainly will find his discussions of it, along with other concepts to effect social change like the philosophy of non violence which Christ himself taught. However since you quoted so much of Dr. King...selectively choosing that which fit your argument and ignoring the essence of the Man himself... I thought you'd also consider reading this particular quote from him written back in the early 40's while he was still in Seminary learning his Life's calling:

God’s Judgement on Western Civilization:

"One of the most persistent notes in the Old Testament is the affirmation that God is creator of the World. One of the questions that continually arises in the minds of men is the relationship of God to the nations of the World. The Old Testament is emphatic that God is the maker of Nations and the breaker of nations when they fail to follow his commands".

Dr. Martin Luther King.

link:
http://www.thekingcenter.org/archive/document/gods-judgment-western-civilization

This was the true heart and belief of Dr. King. There is so much more here to read and learn about this Man of God beyond the limited scope you quoted of him in your posts to me, and I'd encourage you to spend some time reading a broader scope of these quotes rather the ones you selected in a failed attempt to define a Man who at his core, had a heart for Almighty God above that of a Godless State. Here, you will learn about the true Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, and what his Life's calling was all about.

Link to King Center for non violent social change:

http://www.thekingcenter.org/

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

You Sir have no idea how much your suggestions to me the other day that Dr. King at his core was a Socialist upset me. Living here in Atlanta, knowing many of the people who knew Dr. King best, I was frustrated in my inability to convince you during our discussion that at his core, Dr. King was a Christian believer in the shed blood of Christ and nothing ever replaced that core belief in him!

Don't know if you've ever visited it, but through the power of the internet I'm linking you to Dr. King's memorial to his Life's work located right here in Atlanta: The King memorial center for the study of non violent social change. It is here where one can learn the true heart of this warrior for Almighty God. It is here where you can directly peruse through its archives to read his inner most thoughts, desires, and hopes for the redemption of his fellow Man. You will not find here only his devotion to atheistic Socialism...although you certainly will find his discussions of it, along with other concepts to effect social change like the philosophy of non violence which Christ himself taught. However since you quoted so much of Dr. King...selectively choosing that which fit your argument and ignoring the essence of the Man himself... I thought you'd also consider reading this particular quote from him written back in the early 40's while he was still in Seminary learning his Life's calling:

God’s Judgement on Western Civilization:

"One of the most persistent notes in the Old Testament is the affirmation that God is creator of the World. One of the questions that continually arises in the minds of men is the relationship of God to the nations of the World. The Old Testament is emphatic that God is the maker of Nations and the breaker of nations when they fail to follow his commands".

Dr. Martin Luther King.

link:
http://www.thekingcenter.org/archive/document/gods-judgment-western-civilization

This was the true heart and belief of Dr. King. There is so much more here to read and learn about this Man of God beyond the limited scope you quoted of him in your posts to me, and I'd encourage you to spend some time reading a broader scope of these quotes rather the ones you selected in a failed attempt to define a Man who at his core, had a heart for Almighty God. Here, you will learn about the true Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, and what his Life's calling was all about.

Link to King Center for non violent social change:

http://www.thekingcenter.org/

I really wish that you would stop posting facts....folks like mountaineer and country do not comprehend what you are saying because they look at the world thru chardonnay colored glasses.....they don't care who or what Dr King was....they just hate anything conservative, and the fact that you are black and conservative AND much more intelligent than they are leaves them incapable of doing anything but calling you and the rest of us conservatives names. But fear not my brother....we've got 7 more years to make them squirm and go to their thesaurus to find some new names to call us.....keep on keepin on

 

[Boomboom521]

The fact that anyone equates a socialist economic political ideology with godlessness is evidence of a warped sense of policy, religion, and self righteousness

 

[atlkvb]

The fact that anyone equates a socialist economic political ideology with godlessness is evidence of a warped sense of policy, religion, and self righteousness

Socialism by necessity almost always dicates Religious subservience to the State which was NOT Dr. King's core philosophy! It was Social Justice based on principles he followed taught by Christ not Marx!

That thread was proof no Socialist places Godly authority over that of the State which was also one of Dr. King's fundamental precepts. I felt the need to remind @MountaineerWV of that since he seemed to suggest it was Dr. King's economic affinity for some Socialist dogma that was the primary animation of his Life's calling.

Both he and you could not be more wrong about him or misunderstand his calling any greater by suggesting he was primarily Socialist above Christian in his principles.

 

[atlkvb]

I really wish that you would stop posting facts....folks like mountaineer and country do not comprehend what you are saying because they look at the world thru chardonnay colored glasses.....they don't care who or what Dr King was....they just hate anything conservative, and the fact that you are black and conservative AND much more intelligent than they are leaves them incapable of doing anything but calling you and the rest of us conservatives names. But fear not my brother....we've got 7 more years to make them squirm and go to their thesaurus to find some new names to call us.....keep on keepin on

I'm not trying to change their minds Snow Sled Baby but I will not allow them to either hi jack Dr. King's calling nor re define his Life's work for Almighty God in exchange for an atheistic philosophy called Socialism.

No way!

 

[atlkvb]

The fact that anyone equates a socialist economic political ideology with godlessness is evidence of a warped sense of policy, religion, and self righteousness

OK fair enough. Now let's see some proof of your bellicose assertion shall we? Can you link me to a Socialist or Socialist nation that extolls or promotes its obedience to (any) Godly authority above allegiance to its State?

Here's another one if that proves somewhat difficult to back up your ill informed statement:

Are Socialists in essence believers in higher Theological concepts or primarily secular Athiest/humanist/Statists at their core?

Your opinion was well received. Now put some substance behind your claims so I'll understand the person you derisively described wasn't me but actually yourself?

 

[Boomboom521]

Socialism by necessity almost always dicates Religious subservience to the State which was NOT Dr. King's core philosophy! It was Social Justice based on principles he followed taught by Christ not Marx!

That thread was proof no Socialist places Godly authority over that of the State which was also one of Dr. King's fundamental precepts. I felt the need to remind @MountaineerWV of that since he seemed to suggest it was Dr. King's economic affinity for some Socialist dogma that was the primary animation of his Life's calling.

Both he and you could not be more wrong about him or misunderstand his calling any greater by suggesting he was primarily Socialist above Christian in his principles.

A devote Christian can’t believe in socialized healthcare or education? A devote Christian can’t believe in aggressive taxes for corporations? Progressive tax?

What is substantially wrong —- is your demented thought that any approach to policy that have roots is a socialist form of ideology is inherently devoid of any respect for democracy or Christian fundamentals. Even you believe in socialist approaches to some problems. LE for example, you pay higher taxes to fund the same protection that someone who pays lower taxes receives. Maybe you would prefer better police protection for areas of higher property value? An address determines the fire departments urgency to respond? Should we privatize these systems as well?

No, truth is that policy and our problems are approached in different ways according to ones political ideology, but that ideology can swing left and right....depending on the problem. A person can be fiercely conservative in economic policy, but liberal in social policy. A person can be conservative in social policy, yet liberal in economic policy. Socialist approaches to issues like education doesn’t automatically brand one as less of a Christian. That’s absolutely ridiculous that you would assert such a foolish thing.

MLK would probably be very conservative in social policy as it applies today (gay marriage, abortion, etc..), but that doesn’t mean he would automatically be conservative in his economic approach. Seeing things in these absolute terms might make complete sense to you, but it’s just a product of the divisive nature of politics today. It’s not a logical application to apply in determining a person's stance on issues.

The fact that you further conflate the question by bringing Dr. King’s religious affiliation and passion into the discussion is representative of how seriously warped your thinking has become. A desire to use socialist solutions to issues our nation faces does not require one to place their loyalty or devotion to the state over their God. This is an extreme vision of what some see as a legitimate approach. Again, this is an approach that you even support in some areas (whether you admit it or not).

Fact is this: MLK was open to and supported socialist solutions to economic woes during his time. Trying to pretend like your connection to him through your religious faith allows you a better insight to his obvious assertions to that effect is ridiculous. And for the reasons above — foolish. And this sad attempt by you to assume that by simply pointing out what the man SAID HIMSELF means that I do not know what MLK stood for is just indicative of your obtuse vision of the world around you and your self righteous attitude towards your fellow Americans.

 

[Boomboom521]

OK fair enough. Now let's see some proof of your bellicose assertion shall we? Can you link me to a Socialist or Socialist nation that extolls or promotes its obedience to (any) Godly authority above allegiance to its State?

Here's another one if that proves somewhat difficult to back up your ill informed statement:

Are Socialists in essence believers in higher Theological beliefs or primarily Athiest/humanist/Statists at their core?

Your opinion was well received. Now put some substance behind your claims so I'll understand the person you derisively described wasn't me but actually yourself?

You just don’t have the ability to get it

 

[Brushy Bill]

You just don’t have the ability to get it

Ironic

 

[Boomboom521]

Ironic

For a man, that sees Dr. King as an “outlier” to think he can comment on a thread devoted to the man’s ideology and be taken seriously, to think he can define anything as ironic is preposterous.

 

[Brushy Bill]

For a man, that sees Dr. King as an “outlier” to think he can comment on a thread devoted to the man’s ideology and be taken seriously, to think he can define anything as ironic is preposterous.

[thumb2]

 

[atlkvb]

You just don’t have the ability to get it

Nor do you have the ability to answer my rather straightforward question for you to back up your statement made in post # 3!

Now your explanation in post # 7 was neither MWV's or your original assertion about Doctor King. Neither of you ever included any aspects of his Faith in your explanations of his Socialist leanings economically. In fact MWV suggested that was the only thing that dominated his Social philosophy and that is what I strenuously argued against in my responses to him.

We are having a debate right now in this country over the role, shape, and size of the civil Government. However no where in that ongoing debate is the assertion that a Socialist construct absent deference of our recognized original author of our supreme social morality is indigent to the argument. We are not debating the absence of our recognized authority over both Government and Man in that debate! (unless your are a Socialist interested in removing Godly authority)

You say I don't get, but neither you or MWV agree to recognize that one rather important aspect of both our economic and social structure as our way of Governing is constituted. We DO NOT place the State above human affairs and neither did Doctor King! Virtually ALL Socialists do and your inability to prove that otherwise is confirmation of its Truth.

 

[Boomboom521]

Nor do you have the ability to answer my rather straightforward question for to you back up your statement in post # 3!

Now your explanation in post # 7 was neither MWV's or your original assertion about Doctor King. Neither of you ever included any aspects of his Faith in your explanations of his Socialist leanings economically. In fact MWV suggested that was the only thing that dominated his Social philosophy and that is what I strenuously argued against in my responses to him.

We are having a debate right now in this country over the role, shape, and size of the civil Government. However no where in that ongoing debate is the assertion that a Socialist construct absent deference of our recognized original author of our supreme social morality is indigent to the argument. We are not debating the absence of our recognized authority over both Government and Man in that debate! (unless your are a Socialist interested in removing Godly authority)

You say I don't get, but neither you or MWV agree to recognize that one rather important aspect of both our economic and social structure as our way of Governing is constituted. We DO NOT place the State above human affairs and neither did Doctor King! Virtually ALL Socialists do and your inability to prove that otherwise is confirmation of its Truth.

You’re a sad thinker and a very angry, bitter man, imo. My entire position on this subject has gone straight over your head.....in two threads.

 

[Brushy Bill]

My entire position on this subject has gone straight over your head.....in two threads.

More irony. I'm beginning to think this is not intentional.

 

[Boomboom521]

Nor do you have the ability to answer my rather straightforward question for to you back up your statement in post # 3!

Now your explanation in post # 7 was neither MWV's or your original assertion about Doctor King. Neither of you ever included any aspects of his Faith in your explanations of his Socialist leanings economically. In fact MWV suggested that was the only thing that dominated his Social philosophy and that is what I strenuously argued against in my responses to him.

We are having a debate right now in this country over the role, shape, and size of the civil Government. However no where in that ongoing debate is the assertion that a Socialist construct absent deference of our recognized original author of our supreme social morality is indigent to the argument. We are not debating the absence of our recognized authority over both Government and Man in that debate! (unless your are a Socialist interested in removing Godly authority)

You say I don't get, but neither you or MWV agree to recognize that one rather important aspect of both our economic and social structure as our way of Governing is constituted. We DO NOT place the State above human affairs and neither did Doctor King! Virtually ALL Socialists do and your inability to prove that otherwise is confirmation of its Truth.

A socialist nation that extolls or promotes faith in God......is that your straightforward question?

How about Denmark, Ireland, Finland?

Or are we talking about actual state supported religion? Because the US Constitution advocates a separation of church and state. So, technically we wouldn’t be a nation that “extolls or promotes” faith. But you’re questions are about as legitimate as your thinking.

 

[atlkvb]

You’re a sad thinker and a very angry, bitter man, imo. My entire position on this subject has gone straight over your head.....in two threads.

boomer you and the Left want Government to run everything. In your post #7 you spoke eloquently about varying degrees of how much of our lives we need Government to administer...that's a fair debate. But I'm asking where in the Left is there room for anything BUT Government? This is what Socialists argue and advocate for...total State control absent any recognition of either individual or Spiritual prerequisites.

Take school choice. Why is it necessary for Government to run education with no competition from Parochial or other private schools? Where is your same argument for "tolerance" of Faith based organizations to run Social services besides the State, which by definition cannot offer any Moral or Religious structure to alms which IMO is just as important as offering aid.

You get upset with me for suggesting a Religious/Spiritual component to all we do in Governance yet you reject that very basis for anything and almost everything you want Government doing. Just like a Socialist!

 

[atlkvb]

A socialist nation that extolls or promotes faith in God......is that your straightforward question?

How about Denmark, Ireland, Finland?

Or are we talking about actual state supported religion? Because the US Constitution advocates a separation of church and state. So, technically we wouldn’t be a nation that “extolls or promotes” faith. But you’re questions are about as legitimate as your thinking.

None of those Nations is Socialist...just like Scandinavia, They include elements of Socialism but the State is NOT supreme in their constitutions nor personal affairs. They Worship and recognize Godly authority over the State. Now if you had said North Korea...then you'd be correct...but then so would I be because there the State is Supreme and they are most definitely anti-Theology as well as Godless.

BTW...you will not find "separation of Church and State" written in the Constitution. All the Constitution calls for is no State sponsored belief...but it does not forbid Religion or Faith in our Governing philosophy...it emulates it.

 

[atlkvb]

A socialist nation that extolls or promotes faith in God......is that your straightforward question?

How about Denmark, Ireland, Finland?

Or are we talking about actual state supported religion? Because the US Constitution advocates a separation of church and state. So, technically we wouldn’t be a nation that “extolls or promotes” faith. But you’re questions are about as legitimate as your thinking.

and your answers (non) are about as reliably consistent as your excuses not to answer my questions.

 

[atlkvb]

How about Denmark, Ireland, Finland?

No...not Socialist...none of them!

Scandinavia
https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/

Ireland
https://fee.org/articles/drifting-in-and-out-of-socialism-the-case-of-ireland/

Finland
https://blog.genoppinstitute.org/ar...lism-is-so-great-why-is-finland-scrapping-it/

https://beinglibertarian.com/tales-socialist-finland/

 

[Brushy Bill]

Because the US Constitution advocates a separation of church and state.

And you call yourself a teacher. Shame on you.

 

[atlkvb]

More irony. I'm beginning to think this is not intentional.

I didn't agree with his assumptions so he's over me and I'm in over my head don't you know?

 

[Boomboom521]

boomer you and the Left want Government to run everything. In your post #7 you spoke eloquently about varying degrees of how much of our lives we need Government to administer...that's a fair debate. But I'm asking where in the Left is there room for anything BUT Government? This is what Socialists argue and advocate for...total State control absent any recognition of either individual or Spiritual prerequisites.

Take school choice. Why is it necessary for Government to run education with no competition from Parochial or other private schools? Where is your same argument for "tolerance" of Faith based organizations to run Social services besides the State, which by definition cannot offer any Moral or Religious structure to alms which IMO is just as important as offering aid.

You get upset with me for suggesting a Religious/Spiritual component to all we do in Governance yet you reject that very basis for anything and almost everything you want Government doing. Just like a Socialist!

Bullsh1t. I don’t want any government funds used for ANY spiritual education. If men and women want to send their children to religious schools, or private schools, they should do so out of their own pocket. I would totally compromise to a tax deduction for those families who are spending for education but not using tax revenue.

I’m in favor of more socialist solutions to our issues. Such as healthcare. But my personal allegiance is to America, and that requires the ability for compromise. My conservative brothers are completely ok with a system of healthcare that has costs skyrocketing, and an insurance industry that continues to exploit their power over that system, all in some devotion to the market providing “the best”. So, I try to look at the positive....that we do, in fact, have the best healthcare in the world. And although I have to financially maneuver in order to avoid the current system bankrupting myself and my family, when my mother or any of my immediate family gets seriously sick, I shake my head in frustration.

Being open to other things than my socialist agenda? I don’t believe that every problem needs a socialist solution. I do not advocate for redistribution of wealth, other than making corporations pay higher taxes to support infrastructure that they benefit from, I think a free market approach to business works best.

The fallacy that you continue to overlook, is that there are socialist solutions to problems that do not require a full shift to a socialist form of government. I don’t think government should run our schools....I think elected superintendents should set curriculum benchmarks and hire principals.....and those principals should run those schools with the freedom to hire and fire teachers based on their merit and effectiveness.

The funding of these schools should always be drawn from our tax revenues. Private schools, religious or not, should always exist surely.....but I want the same educational opportunities for American children regardless of their parent’s income.

 

[Boomboom521]

None of those Nations is Socialist...just like Scandinavia, they include elements of Socialism but the State is NOT supreme in their constitutions nor personal affairs. they Worship and recognize Godly authority over the State. Now if you had said North Korea...then you'd be correct...but then so would I be because there the State is Supreme and they are most definitely anti-Theology as well as Godless.

BTW...you will not find "separation of Church and State" written in the Constitution. All the Constitution calls for is no State sponsored belief...but it does not forbid Religion or Faith in our Governing philosophy...it emulates it.

Separation of church and state isn’t an assertion of forbidding religion....only a fool would say otherwise. And we were literally talking about state sponsored religion, weren’t we?

 

[atlkvb]

Bullsh1t. I don’t want any government funds used for ANY spiritual education. If men and women want to send their children to religious schools, or private schools, they should do so out of their own pocket. I would totally compromise to a tax deduction for those families who are spending for education but not using tax revenue.

I’m in favor of more socialist solutions to our issues. Such as healthcare. But my personal allegiance is to America, and that requires the ability for compromise. My conservative brothers are completely ok with a system of healthcare that has costs skyrocketing, and an insurance industry that continues to exploit their power over that system, all in some devotion to the market providing “the best”. So, I try to look at the positive....that we do, in fact, have the best healthcare in the world. And although I have to financially maneuver in order to avoid the current system bankrupting myself and my family, when my mother or any of my immediate family gets seriously sick, I shake my head in frustration.

Being open to other things than my socialist agenda? I don’t believe that every problem needs a socialist solution. I do not advocate for redistribution of wealth, other than making corporations pay higher taxes to support infrastructure that they benefit from, I think a free market approach to business works best.

The fallacy that you continue to overlook, is that there are socialist solutions to problems that do not require a full shift to a socialist form of government. I don’t think government should run our schools....I think elected superintendents should set curriculum benchmarks and hire principals.....and those principals should run those schools with the freedom to hire and fire teachers based on their merit and effectiveness.

The funding of these schools should always be drawn from our tax revenues. Private schools, religious or not, should always exist surely.....but I want the same educational opportunities for American children regardless of their parent’s income.

Hey boomer...I don't want Government running ANY of that! Health care, Education, infrastructure...none of it. We can do it all without the needless bureaucracy that only builds for itself.

We disagree...that's fine. The voters decide. My side is winning. We vote for Freedom!

 

[Boomboom521]

No...not Socialist...none of them!

Scandinavia
https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/

Ireland
https://fee.org/articles/drifting-in-and-out-of-socialism-the-case-of-ireland/

Finland
https://blog.genoppinstitute.org/ar...lism-is-so-great-why-is-finland-scrapping-it/

https://beinglibertarian.com/tales-socialist-finland/

And since when does asserting for socialist solutions to economic issues automatically means one is advocating for a state that is supreme in their socialist policy? (or whatever Bullsh1t phrase you used).

 

[atlkvb]

Separation of church and state isn’t an assertion of forbidding religion....only a fool would say otherwise. And we were literally talking about state sponsored religion, weren’t we?

No. Leftists don't want ANY Religion in anything involving Government. Just like you and education. I think Religion should be involved in ALL we do to Govern ourselves because that's where we draw our Morality which a Free people must have in order to survive.

 

[MountaineerWV]

And since when does asserting for socialist solutions to economic issues automatically means one is advocating for a state that is supreme in their socialist policy? (or whatever Bullsh1t phrase you used).

Don't waste your time. He brings up Dr. King's faith as the reason he was not a believer in socialism.....then how can he explain his infidelity? Oops.....

 

[Boomboom521]

Hey boomer...I don't want Government running ANY of that! Health care, Education, infrastructure...none of it. We can do it all without the needless bureaucracy that only builds for itself.

We disagree...that's fine. The voters decide. My side is winning. We vote for Freedom!

Yeah ok, but that doesn’t change the fact that your assertions in this thread about what socialism is....what MLK believed....what religion HAS to be.....or what socialism HAS to be are ridiculous and WRONG!

 

[atlkvb]

And since when does asserting for socialist solutions to economic issues automatically means one is advocating for a state that is supreme in their socialist policy? (or whatever Bullsh1t phrase you used).

Since you can't name a Socialist country that doesn't restrict Religious thought/practices. Those countries you named ARE NOT Socialist.

 

[Brushy Bill]

Don't waste your time. He brings up Dr. King's faith as the reason he was not a believer in socialism.....then how can he explain his infidelity? Oops.....

You checked out that link yet? Or are you a pussy!

 

[Boomboom521]

I didn't agree with his assumptions so he's over me and I'm in over my head don't you know?

You absolutely are in over your head. You’re an absolutist, and frankly....an idiot

 

[atlkvb]

Don't waste your time. He brings up Dr. King's faith as the reason he was not a believer in socialism.....then how can he explain his infidelity? Oops.....

I can explain it because Dr. King like Sinners was fallible. He recognized where his Salvation comes from though, he didn't lie about it.

 

[Boomboom521]

Since you can't name a Socialist country that doesn't restrict Religious thought/practices. Those countries you names ARE NOT Socialist.

Those countries do not have socialist policies in place?

 

[atlkvb]

You absolutely are in over your head. You’re an absolutist, and frankly....an idiot

And you are like Dog returning to his own vomit with your incessant name calling when you can't have your way. Idiot am I? Since you know I am you must have beaten me to it to claim squatter's rights.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

Don't waste your time. He brings up Dr. King's faith as the reason he was not a believer in socialism.....then how can he explain his infidelity? Oops.....

are you back from the rally?...still have your pink vagina hat on?....let me remind you again. It was you and people like you who caused Trumps election....keep it up....7 more years

 

[Boomboom521]

I can explain it because Dr. King like Sinners was fallible. He recognized where his Salvation comes from though, he didn't lie about it.

And that HAS NOTHING TO DO with what we are discussing. It’s just your sad little attempt to use your faith to determine “sides”.....and just shows your petty little mindset of “winning”.

 

[atlkvb]

Those countries do not have socialist policies in place?

They do...but that does not make them Socialist. We have Socialist policies in place too boom, are we a "Socialist" country?

 

[Boomboom521]

And you are like Dog returning to his own vomit with your incessant name calling when you can't have your way. Idiot am I? Since you know I am you must have beaten me to it to claim squatter's rights.

It’s not namecalling. It’s just the truth. Your vocabulary and Christian knowledge doesn’t change the fact that you can’t even comprehend simple concepts.

 

[atlkvb]

And that HAS NOTHING TO DO with what we are discussing. It’s just your sad little attempt to use your faith to determine “sides”.....and just shows your petty little mindset of “winning”.

I was responding to MWV who suggested Dr. King's wasn't faithful to his Wife.

 

[Brushy Bill]

doesn’t change the fact that you can’t even comprehend simple concepts.

You're just shitting irony all over this thread.