And as a preemptive strike-----YES that goes for Obama too. I felt he was very balanced in most of his stated opinions on social issues. But at times when the balance didn't show, I felt he was wrong.
This NFL protest thing is getting very confusing.....
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Not X or Ali.....zero problem with them. I guess you agree with his embrace of communism,casrtro and che....I don't. Just to be clear........Kaeperdick and his supporters are free to express whatever they want AND the owners are free to hire whom they want.....The President is also free to express whatever he wants. Funny how you get all bent out of shape over a MAGA hat but you like Kaeperdicks choice of hosiery........I'm still confused.
Did I get all bent out of shape over MAGA hats? No. I think it's chickensh1t to steal Reagan's slogan and pawn it off as your own. I think it's backdoor to play off of the right's obsession for jellybeans by using his slogan. I think it is more confusing than anything Kaepernick has done or wears.
I don't like communism. I think Marx was a great thinker. I think the working class should always be revered, because without them the rich don't get richer. But capitalism breeds liberty, and that's more important than everyone getting a piece of the pie, imo. Che? Read a little about his life, and I'm sure you find some level of respect for him. Trust me, if Kaepernick was a better QB, he'd be playing. Green is the only color that Trumps all my friend.
Respect??????......SMH......He was castro’s chief executioner, a mass-murderer and founded Cuba’s slave labor camps.
Your post is a contradiction of itself fueled by your beliefs. It's not objective at all. See how this works:
I'm against the Confederate flag and what it represents. I'm against the ideas of the people who support it. I'm also against the notion of trying to silence them. I'm against Antifa's actions. Im for Antifa's right to counter protest. I'm against the the manner in which Kaep chose to protest. I'm for his act of protesting.
It seems like I'm one of the few on here who are consistent with their belief and protection of freedoms of all sides but can still separate my personal biases. Your post says you cannot.
I'm not saying Trump wasn't being divisive. Let's be clear about that. Trying to pin divisiveness on him but not acknowledging the divisive nature of the protest is disingenuous.
I've met her wife. I do know quite a few lesbians, I served with some, my step sister is one, as is another family member who I cherish. I know a lot gay men as well. My wife is a fag hag.
Your stereotyping of me failed bubba. I'm a strong proponent of gay rights, have donated to the HRC, and marched in support of the gay. However, my personal platform doesn't include it in my top 3 main issues. I'll say, I was damn happy with Trump at the convention related to the inclusivity of gays as am I with his stance towards gays in general.
I literally said that I I feel people should be allowed to express themselves openly (confederate flag and all). And that I'm also for people being able to express themselves in opposition to that expression. I have said that the right wing nutjobs should be allowed to speak, I wouldn't have any problem with allowing white supremacists the ability to protest. But it's different, a protest for oppression, and one against oppression. There is a difference. Look at kneeling during the anthem versus spitting on a soldier. Like flying a confederate flag over your truck, and flying it over a courthouse. Like praying in the locker room before a football game versus praying during class. There are differences.
The contradiction exists in your attitude that the emotion evoked from the action is uniform to all. Express your displeasure, sure. It helps me to understand your perspective. But don't equate a peaceful act by a man with a GROUP of people chanting hate. They're different, protected the same maybe, but different in their aggressiveness and potential outcome.
Ah....living in Miami, I met many Cuban Americans. For every person I met that hated Castro and Che with a passion....I found one that loved them with the same passion. Perspective is a big thing.
Trump is President. He needs to be a President to all. Go crazy with his agenda no matter who it pisses off, but he should try to remain balanced in his representation as President.
Protest is protest. divisive? Not always. Kaepernick' protest? Yes, it was divisive, because the act makes many believe he is saying he hates America. But it's not his intention to disgrace soldiers or the nation. It was his intention to display his displeasure with the state of race relations in our nation. If you think that act is forcing everyone to choose a side, then I think that's foolishness. Saying there should be change is good for America, and some would argue needed. I don't feel forced to choose a side by Kaepernick. I do now however, as one by one "true Americans" line up to declare how wonderful they are for their beliefs and their perspective. I'm on the side that tries to see things from multiple perspectives, that's American
It's really a good thing noone ever commented about people clinging to their guns and religion.
And the ones who loved Che and Fidel are morons. How many people were summarily executed by them for speaking out against the Fidel regime? How many people don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of because Che and Fidel? Talk about oppression and corruption? Good lord. There are people that risk their lives on innertubes to get away from that madness. There is nothing that can be positively said about what has happened under that regime.
I never said anything positive about Castro. And I said that Che was an important figure in history, and that his desire to help the less fortunate is inspirational. I also said if Born read about his life, he'd find some level of respect for him.
Says a lot about you as a person. You are either misinformed or support murder, slavery and brutal dictatorships.
Got me. I love murder. And honestly, who doesn't love brutal dictatorships? They are.....just good for everyone.
Why else would you praise a guy who was given the responsibility to carry out mass murder?
Where do you all get this "desire to help the less fortunate" nonsense from? He exploited the poor and uneducated with the promise of liberty and prosperity through class warfare and victimization and delivered poverty and bloody oppression. Not a lot different than what other "revolutionaries", communists, aspiring dictators, Muslim clerics, and various other despots do.
Che is a figure for people open to pushing a socialist and communist vision. We call those people idealistic ignorant jackasses.
I didn't praise him. I said if you read about his life you would find some level of respect for him......very big difference there. I don't agree with his faith in communism, I don't agree on his desire to end the Bastista regime through execution without trial, and many more aspects of his life actions. I did however find a level of respect for his desire to help the poverty stricken people of Latin America. I respect his willingness to die for causes he believed right and just. There isn't respect found even in enemies that are true to their word and honest in their convictions?
"We"?
I'm idealistic. And are you saying that Bastista was a great leader that didn't exploit his people?
No. I'm saying Che and Fidel were no different.
And if you identify or believe in any aspect of Che's beliefs then you're an ignorant jackass.
Not all communists and socialists are evil people Johnny B. And if you think they're all ignorant, you must have never read Marx.
And....news flash....there's been some evil capitalists over the years staunchly supporting democracy while opressing people daily.
Shocker, let's tear down at America when not a single instance of Communism has succeeded. And yes, they're ignorant if they believe achieving success in communism is possible.
The two were different people. Had difference of opinion also. Che died in the Congo trying to help people there too, through communist idealism. Che also condemned the USSR as well as the US. I'm saying it's not as simple as you make it.
Who's saying to tear down America? Is Kaepernick? Do you think I am? Cause you're misinterpreting me if you do. I'm not. Liberty is where my loyalty lies
You do realize you could apply that same damn logic to someone like Adolf Hitler? The only difference is that I'm not going to look at the "good" things someone did when their whole damn legacy is terror that they caused to others.
Che died in Bolivia. He had already shat the bed in the Congo and went to Bolivia in disgrace. While in Bolivia, the good doctor was killed much to the chagrin of the US intel community who wanted to keep him alive for propaganda purposes. Che led his team around in the jungle scoring wins against regional police stations and outposts and then when they finally took him serious and with the aid of some Black Ops from us he quickly lost.
One where the people don't suffer at the hands of a ruling class, government financial systems collapse, ummmmm just to name a few.
I meant Bolivia, sorry. I don't know when this got into a defense of communism, I have said I don't support communism. But I do think Marx was a solid thinker. And capitalism is not above corruption by any means.
