I am asking you to defend your statement that Christians, Nazis, and KKK members all believe the same things or practice the same beliefs.
If that's not your point then what is it?
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So I finally figured it out....evangelicals side with the KKK and Nazis simply
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I am asking you to defend your statement that Christians, Nazis, and KKK members all believe the same things or practice the same beliefs.
If that's not your point then what is it?
@Original Mountaineer1
How many members of Antifa express themselves as or confess to be Christian?
On the other hand, how many members of that same group confess or express themselves to be staunch radical Leftist Atheists?
Or put another way...given that Christians believe in the ultimate authority of Almighty God over human affairs and most Antifa members reject the very existence of God...who would you say your thoughts (and most folks on the Left) line up best with?
Christians or Antifa Leftists?
How many members of Antifa express themselves as or confess to be Christian?
On the other hand, how many members of that same group confess or express themselves to be staunch radical Leftist Atheists?
Or put another way...given that Christians believe in the ultimate authority of Almighty God over human affairs and most Antifa members reject the very existence of God...who would you say your thoughts (and most folks on the Left) line up best with?
Christians or Antifa Leftists?
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Maybe your family are a bunch of imbeciles and they just happen to be Christians? In your case, I certainly wouldn't rule out the mouth breathing component of the argument.
Arab terrorists consider themselves to be muslims too, so are all muslims terrorists by default.
David Duke probably doesn't even know what it means to be Christian, along with most of you here.
Compare Christians you may know or see practicing their Faith, Praying, leading Souls to Christ and tell me where you see Nazis, KKK members, or Antifa terrorists doing any of that?
I can sight many aspects of Socialist theory that many on the Left support that were in fact practiced by the Nazi Socialists of the Wiemar Republic. I can site many aspects of environmental radicalism and secular humanism that members of Antifa support. And I can cite many racist practices advocated by the KKK that are also supported by and promoted on the Left. Counting people by race and class chief among them, and using race as a political weapon to divide the nation and create animosity against the Country being another.
You can search high and you can search low, and you won't find one Nazi or Antifa radical or KKK racist citing any virtues of Christ or giving Praise to Almighty God while leading lost Souls in the Sinner's Prayer.
It's absolutely comical the lengths you folks on the Left will go to try to smear people who you disagree with.
Make no mistake about it, you sincerely disagree more with what Christians believe and do who you try to claim are the same as Nazis, KKK or Antifa members, than you disagree with any of those radical folk's beliefs.
Now what does that tell you?
You seem to know a lot about the KKK. Do you have a family history with them down thar in Alabamby
A "Christian" by definition believes in someone called "Christ" and believes him to be Almighty God who is the only Salvation from Sin and Spiritual Death.
Show me KKK members, or Antifa members, or Nazis who confess their salvation through Christ?
If they do not, they are NOT Christians and I don't care what you hear them calling themselves.
Christians in America may not like to acknowledge how influential the Klan was or how the group made strong connections between faith and racial/ethnic purity and God and country. “Religion remains a prominent part of the Klan,” contends Baker, “though many would like to pretend that it’s not.” The popular film Birth of a Nation(1915), which so inspired the second Klan, featured a concluding scene with a white, radiating Christ in Anglo-Saxon heaven. Such obvious links between white supremacy and Christianity, and others made by millions of Americans in the 1920s, cannot be wished away.
https://voices.uchicago.edu/religio...ponse-to-kelly-j-baker-by-randall-j-stephens/
Cool, all Muslims are terrorists. Got it.
Christians in America may not like to acknowledge how influential the Klan was or how the group made strong connections between faith and racial/ethnic purity and God and country. “Religion remains a prominent part of the Klan,” contends Baker, “though many would like to pretend that it’s not.” The popular film Birth of a Nation(1915), which so inspired the second Klan, featured a concluding scene with a white, radiating Christ in Anglo-Saxon heaven. Such obvious links between white supremacy and Christianity, and others made by millions of Americans in the 1920s, cannot be wished away.
https://voices.uchicago.edu/religio...ponse-to-kelly-j-baker-by-randall-j-stephens/
Christians in America may not like to acknowledge how influential the Klan was or how the group made strong connections between faith and racial/ethnic purity and God and country. “Religion remains a prominent part of the Klan,” contends Baker, “though many would like to pretend that it’s not.” The popular film Birth of a Nation(1915), which so inspired the second Klan, featured a concluding scene with a white, radiating Christ in Anglo-Saxon heaven. Such obvious links between white supremacy and Christianity, and others made by millions of Americans in the 1920s, cannot be wished away.
https://voices.uchicago.edu/religio...ponse-to-kelly-j-baker-by-randall-j-stephens/
So tell me...who do you believe more? KKK members who say there is a God who hates Blacks or Radical secular Leftists who think it's just a giant fairy tale?
If your assertion is that KKK members believe in the shed blood of Christ can you show me something which shows them confessing that? (that's what genuine Christians do)
I can show you Antifa radicals and other Leftists who think Religion is terrorism, and mocking Almighty God's existence.
You're so wrapped up in lies you don't even know what is Truth.
The Truth is...they are all liars and you believe all of their lies.
Oh no?
Then why did you post that picture, and why do you still agree with Antifa members that there is no God?
Point made, point proved.
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Christians in America may not like to acknowledge how influential the Klan was or how the group made strong connections between faith and racial/ethnic purity and God and country. “Religion remains a prominent part of the Klan,” contends Baker, “though many would like to pretend that it’s not.” The popular film Birth of a Nation(1915), which so inspired the second Klan, featured a concluding scene with a white, radiating Christ in Anglo-Saxon heaven. Such obvious links between white supremacy and Christianity, and others made by millions of Americans in the 1920s, cannot be wished away.
https://voices.uchicago.edu/religio...ponse-to-kelly-j-baker-by-randall-j-stephens/
You're an idiot
Correct! Christians don't like to acknowledge that because it's not true. KKK members are not Christians because their allegiance is NOT to Christ. It is to their hatred of different races... the very Creation of Almighty God whom they claim to believe in as Christians. What hate did Christ teach as example except against that type of Sin?
Ironically, it is the Democrat party which refuses to acknowledge its racist past...since the majority of all original KKK members were in fact Democrats. Some racists like Keith Ellison still exist in the party today!
That is true, but you don't want to accept that do you? Why not?
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Here's that dem party thing you keep tossing out there again. A hundred years ago, the democratic party was the conservative party in the south. Teams switched uniforms long after that.
I have challenged you and the OP throughout this thread to cite examples for me of similar beliefs between Christians and the KKK.
Now you posted that picture to prove your point I suppose but I also expressly outlined to you what in fact a Christian both believes and does as a result of that belief (confessing allegiance and reverence to Christ)
Does that picture do that? Do KKK members do that? Do you do that?
The Truth that does hurt is you would rather believe a lie than confess Christ's Truth to yourself. That is sad.
and 100 years after that here you are trying to paint all Christians as supporting or in sympathy with the KKK.
Now either you know better, or you are a Damnable liar.
Which is it?
So you are OK with bad behavior as long as your side does it. You are a happy hypocrite.
They will never accept the facts. They love them some Bobby Byrd......Those rednecks can try to rewrite history all they want......But anyne with half a brain knows the truth.
Your team got decimated by Trump and you will never get over that. I forever mock you.
KKK members call themselves Christians and you believe them. Christians call themselves saved by Christ's shed Blood at Calvary and you don't believe them.
Now if you know the Truth, why can't you figure out who's lying?
Why do you believe KKK members who call themselves Christians yet disbelieve those Christians who claim Christ's sacrifice for their Salvation?
You'd rather believe a lie than Truth? You call Truth a lie, and the liars who claim Truth to be genuine?
If that makes sense, then explain why you believe the liars yet still insist there is no God?
But Christians who say they are saved by Christ's shed Blood you don't believe them...correct?
Why not? Who are you to say they are liars?
Why do you believe the KKK and reject those who call on the name of Christ & call themselves Christian?
What makes the God of the KKK believable in your mind and the God of Christians a fraud?
Is it your own deceit?
Boy, a whole school of red herrings. Should brung a net!
Let's focus now. This discussion is about the KKK and their distinct link to Christianity. They believed they were Christians whether you like it or not. This discussion has nothing to do with the rest of your babble.
I don't care if they claimed to be Jesus themselves. KKK beliefs and Christian beliefs are not interchangeable. None of their beliefs are taught in the Bible. The same cannot be said for Islam and terrorists.
Wrong! The discussion is over what is a Christian? You believe them to be such and reject those who believe in the genuine article (Christ)
Why?
You still haven't explained yourself.
If you don't believe in a God, why do you believe KKK members who claim to be Christians?
And that's fine. But they believed they were Christian and framed their entire effort around this basic fact.
OK again, so why do you believe them and who they say they are, yet reject Christians who profess belief in Christ and express that publicly (which they do not)?
You don't believe in Christ, so what makes KKK members believable to you if they say they are Christians?
Why don't you just reject them as a bunch of nut cases like you do genuine Christians who you disbelieve?
