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--Geno practiced today in Calgary, considered a game time decision tomorrow. Evidently still complaining about being sick.

--Rusty now sick; left at the hotel in Calgary and didn't practice. Also being called a game time decision tomorrow.

--Sid reportedly has been skating for roughly 6 days, though he isn't practicing. He did NOT join the team for the Western swing; meaning the earliest he could rejoin the team for a non-gameday practice is 12/29.
 
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Hall to the desert dogs. I know he was mentioned with the avs but I didn't see it the avs need to add a Blue Line Basher to be a serious cup contender.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report...ey-close-to-a-taylor-hall-deal-212615443.html
What do ya think Colo and all? That imo is a hefty price to pay for a guy that's obviously a very talented hockey player , but has really only had ONE breakout season? Had a few injuries and not quite up to speed this year either to my eyes. What is this Hall's 8th or 9th coach in as many years as well? Gotta be close to that. If he doesn't re-sign and/or Zona gets drummed out in the first or 2nd round? I think they NEED him to re-sign and have to make some playoff headway or it's a total dud deal for the desert dogs...anyone also think this was Chayka throwing ole #81 a bone? Maybe a bit of a factor...one thing that did surprise me a bit was Jersey on the hook for half his money this year.
Ya gotta take risk to get reward but something tells me this one's gonna blow up in their faces real good in Phoenix.
 
What do ya think Colo and all? That imo is a hefty price to pay for a guy that's obviously a very talented hockey player , but has really only had ONE breakout season? Had a few injuries and not quite up to speed this year either to my eyes. What is this Hall's 8th or 9th coach in as many years as well? Gotta be close to that. If he doesn't re-sign and/or Zona gets drummed out in the first or 2nd round? I think they NEED him to re-sign and have to make some playoff headway or it's a total dud deal for the desert dogs...anyone also think this was Chayka throwing ole #81 a bone? Maybe a bit of a factor...one thing that did surprise me a bit was Jersey on the hook for half his money this year.
Ya gotta take risk to get reward but something tells me this one's gonna blow up in their faces real good in Phoenix.
Its risky the desert dogs put alot on the line. They have to hope he regains that form from 2 years ago and secondly he has to stay healthy. Giving up the draft picks I don't mind as much. The coyotes have built a decent core and are probably more in the mode of adding through free agency then throught the draft. But giving up the prospects is risky. Better hope he resigns are this will blow up in there face.
 
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What do ya think Colo and all? That imo is a hefty price to pay for a guy that's obviously a very talented hockey player , but has really only had ONE breakout season? Had a few injuries and not quite up to speed this year either to my eyes. What is this Hall's 8th or 9th coach in as many years as well? Gotta be close to that. If he doesn't re-sign and/or Zona gets drummed out in the first or 2nd round? I think they NEED him to re-sign and have to make some playoff headway or it's a total dud deal for the desert dogs...anyone also think this was Chayka throwing ole #81 a bone? Maybe a bit of a factor...one thing that did surprise me a bit was Jersey on the hook for half his money this year.
Ya gotta take risk to get reward but something tells me this one's gonna blow up in their faces real good in Phoenix.

I myself haven't looked into the details of the deal......will be in the car this afternoon (heading back for Detroit) and will listen to NHLN Radio's analysis then......so I don't have any personal opinion as yet if the Yotes over- or underpaid.

But it's clear the Yotes hardly need to spend anymore time building for the future, so it's easy enough from a distance to see why Chayka is putting all his chips (or at least a lot of them) in the middle of the table. Meanwhile, if the desert crowd got excited about a declining Kessel, hard not to wonder how much more excited they'll be now with a Hart winner.....who they obviously really need.

One thing; a deal including this many longer-term assets for an upcoming UFA leads me to believe Hall's agent has given Chayka an indication his client is willing to extend in Phoenix. Whether he ends up being worth the $70+ million he's likely looking for obviously remains to be seen; I myself am not convinced of that.

But I'm personally much happier to see Hall go a team like ARI rather than most anyone else to whom he was being rumored to go......if for no other reason, because it ups their ante specifically with Vegas.
 
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Ok what do the Pens do with Murray? With a save % south of .900, Murray is shaky at best. Jarry is killing it and is the clear #1 today. DeSmith is playing reasonably well in WBS. So is it time to shop Murray? Yes he is just 25 but he doesn't seem overly capable when he is asked to win a game on his own. He seems to thrive when the defense in front of him can protect him from moving laterally (him more than other goalies). So far this year, he has been poor all around and cost the pens several points by allowing atrocious goals late. He is a RFA after the year so the Pens are going to have to make a decision at some point.
 
Ok what do the Pens do with Murray? With a save % south of .900, Murray is shaky at best. Jarry is killing it and is the clear #1 today. DeSmith is playing reasonably well in WBS. So is it time to shop Murray? Yes he is just 25 but he doesn't seem overly capable when he is asked to win a game on his own. He seems to thrive when the defense in front of him can protect him from moving laterally (him more than other goalies). So far this year, he has been poor all around and cost the pens several points by allowing atrocious goals late. He is a RFA after the year so the Pens are going to have to make a decision at some point.
I'll have a go, as best I can...

Their is little doubt he's been nothing short of hot garbage this year. In saying that however, he has gotten off to slow starts before, and this year is no exception. His save percentage over a fairly long stretch last year straightened itself out. The 4 and out vs the Isles? Well NO GOALIE was rectifying that abomination when your O completely disappears.

Several factors to consider... do the Pens believe Jarry is legit the #1 starter after 14 or 15 games this year? He's had quite a run, and I take NOTHING away from the kid. But let's face it, pitching shutouts every other game is not sustainable long term. I wanna see a fair amount more of sample size before reacting potentially irrationally.

Murray has been (deservedly ) stapled to the bench for the majority of a few weeks now , with exception Detroit which I thought he was actually pretty good, perhaps one weak one that night. Don't we wanna see how he reacts to the push? I've often mentioned before since back in the days of Flower tandem he NEEDS the push.
Speaking of tandems that imo is a pretty ideal scenario to have. Pens had it over the two recent Cup runs to great effect. Do you trust Jarry and Casey to be that tandem and win us all a Cup? I don't personally. We had the vet pushed by the whipper snapper at that point and it worked out pretty damn well imo.

Trade value, what is it at this point? If he's going through a period of suckage, certainly not the ideal time to trade him.

Goalie styles, his is FAR different than the smaller more acrobatic Jarry, it is all based on sound (when he applies them) positional percentages and pure size. I like this combo as it's quite similar to the Flower/Murr variety. Teams must prepare/ study differently for both, and if played correctly they suffer for it.

The WRENCH, Seattle expansion...ha, we've been here before fairly recent haven't we, if both are here and plenty of variables till then (contract decisions, playoff implications, etc), well it's a wild card depending on performance all around the ice.

I'll also add did that miserable SOB the old #35 win many games on his own back in the day? Nope, not to the best of my recollection, however he WAS just what the Pens needed at the time. Different style of play as a stand up netminder but still a VERY big boy and a goaltender based on percentages and positional play.

Long and short is , yes I am a bit of a Murray fan boy (but I do and will criticize when warranted , like now), but I wanna see this play out further based on the above. That's my 2 or 3 cents.
 
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word around pittsburgh is that murray is focused on getting a giant goalie contract. seems to have affected his play. the pens still believe he is their number one and that the goalie coach has been working hard with him. that being said the pens are going to ride jarry's hot hand.

this is a good problem to have.
 
word around pittsburgh is that murray is focused on getting a giant goalie contract. seems to have affected his play. the pens still believe he is their number one and that the goalie coach has been working hard with him. that being said the pens are going to ride jarry's hot hand.

this is a good problem to have.
I'd love 3 point whatever million...let's face it, that whatever is just that. IF true focus different.
 
In Detroit the next 2 nights......it's Getzoff and 2-9er for me tonight with no TV available.

For the record, I was kicking around going to see the Blojax at Wings tonight; but staying 45 minutes away from Little Caesars Arena.......an early appt in the morning......and two shitty opponents......made this a not-so-good idea.

I report this because ticket prices for the game were interesting; seats in the aftermarket (Vivid Seats, Stub Hub) were as cheap as $7.00USD. I realize the Dead Wings are the worst team in the League......and this is, after all, a chilly Tuesday night.......but I'm surprised the locals have abandoned the team this much.

Friggin' parking would probably cost at least 3x that amount.......
 
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In Detroit the next 2 nights......it's Getzoff and 2-9er for me tonight with no TV available.

For the record, I was kicking around going to see the Blojax at Wings tonight; but staying 45 minutes away from Little Caesars Arena.......an early appt in the morning......and two shitty opponents......made this a not-so-good idea.

I report this because ticket prices for the game were interesting; seats in the aftermarket (Vivid Seats, Stub Hub) were as cheap as $7.00USD. I realize the Dead Wings are the worst team in the League......and this is, after all, a chilly Tuesday night.......but I'm surprised the locals have abandoned the team this much.

Friggin' parking would probably cost at least 3x that amount.......
But, but, but....isn't this 'HOCKEYTOWN' ???? They broadcast it all over the ice and elsewhere! You'd think it would stick when somebody is down on their luck?
 
In Detroit the next 2 nights......it's Getzoff and 2-9er for me tonight with no TV available.

For the record, I was kicking around going to see the Blojax at Wings tonight; but staying 45 minutes away from Little Caesars Arena.......an early appt in the morning......and two shitty opponents......made this a not-so-good idea.

I report this because ticket prices for the game were interesting; seats in the aftermarket (Vivid Seats, Stub Hub) were as cheap as $7.00USD. I realize the Dead Wings are the worst team in the League......and this is, after all, a chilly Tuesday night.......but I'm surprised the locals have abandoned the team this much.

Friggin' parking would probably cost at least 3x that amount.......
In saying my previous response...did you all get a good chuckle at this Forbes article today? Pronouncing us as the greatest fanbase in the league? Um, ya....not so quick...NOBODY eats their own or leaves games so early like Pens fans do.
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports...-2019-list-boston-bruins/stories/201912160079
 
In saying my previous response...did you all get a good chuckle at this Forbes article today? Pronouncing us as the greatest fanbase in the league? Um, ya....not so quick...NOBODY eats their own or leaves games so early like Pens fans do.
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports...-2019-list-boston-bruins/stories/201912160079

From what I can tell, these "ratings" had largely nothing to do with what happens inside the arena......and everything to do with items outside the arena.
 
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From what I can tell, these "ratings" had largely nothing to do with what happens inside the arena......and everything to do with items outside the arena.
When I see recent darling Vegas and original 6 Boston/Chitown with somewhat recent sucess in the top 5 , I'm understanding your point here pretty large.
 
Noesen placed on waivers; if unclaimed by noon tomorrow (THU) he can be returned to WB/S, though there's no guarantee that will happen.......he could stay with the team.

Meanwhile, the League's Christmas roster freeze (which bars player reassignment) commences tomorrow at midnight EST and runs through 12/27. Looks like this decision is a way for the team to take advantage of that.
 
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Noesen placed on waivers; if unclaimed by noon tomorrow (THU) he can be returned to WB/S, though there's no guarantee that will happen.......he could stay with the team.

Meanwhile, the League's Christmas roster freeze (which bars player reassignment) commences tomorrow at midnight EST and runs through 12/27. Looks like this decision is a way for the team to take advantage of that.
Was thinking of that freeze the other day and now here tonight on the coldest night yet (feels like minus a bazillion degrees), it was a good thing them bringing it in...not sure when it first took effect? But imo it needs to be a week earlier and a week later. Make it almost a month. I don't care if they are millionaires or not. People have families and make plans. Trade a guy on the 19th or 28th? Well, to be frank, you are a gigantic asshole.
 
Was thinking of that freeze the other day and now here tonight on the coldest night yet (feels like minus a bazillion degrees), it was a good thing them bringing it in...not sure when it first took effect? But imo it needs to be a week earlier and a week later. Make it almost a month. I don't care if they are millionaires or not. People have families and make plans. Trade a guy on the 19th or 28th? Well, to be frank, you are a gigantic asshole.

Gotta agree......after a nice Tuesday afternoon, got my fat ass slapped in the face with the temps here in Detroit. What's ironic is that temps are evidently headed to the 40F's here by the weekend (and will evidently stay there through Christmas). Either way, glad I'm headed back south later today.

As for the League freeze, aside the fact I don't care emotionally for how the League essentially shuts down around Christmas.......while that shitty NBA remains in full operation......I do agree with your point from a pure people standpoint (though it would, IMO, be difficult to shutdown transactions/League Ops to the extent you propose).
 
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Noesen claimed by San Jose......trying to decide how bad things must be in San Jose these days to prompt them to claim, at best, a fringe guy from Pittsburgh. Won't surprise me in the least if they try him for a couple weeks, then release him.......and he ends up back with the Guins.
 
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Noesen claimed by San Jose......trying to decide how bad things must be in San Jose these days to prompt them to claim, at best, a fringe guy from Pittsburgh. Won't surprise me in the least if they try him for a couple weeks, then release him.......and he ends up back with the Guins.
Wow! Really eh? Agreed...
 
Although in saying this...for what he brings I would like a guy that can throw a fist or two...not some meathead Sestito type but, just a guy that's willing to drop the gloves if needed.
 
Although in saying this...for what he brings I would like a guy that can throw a fist or two...not some meathead Sestito type but, just a guy that's willing to drop the gloves if needed.
Went to the avs Canes game. The bunch of jerks have a real solid team. The jerks scored 3 goals in the last 3 minutes to win. Jacob Slavin got the game winner he grew up in Denver.
 
Schultzie being called week-to-week with this new LBI suffered in Calgary the other night.

PHN believes this a crisis....particularly with Dumoutin already out.....since the next call-up from WB/S (Zach Trotman) is also injured. That evidently leaves Kevin Czuzman (13 NHL games played 6 years ago) as the next/only healthy available D-body at WB/S.

They've got Riikola on the roster, but the injuries mean he's evidently going to be forced to play his off-side. Anyway,.in practice yesterday, Letang was paired with JJ.....Pettersson with Marino......and Ruhwedel with Riikola.

I don't get the impression anyone is excited about those pairings. Sounds like the more ideal pairing would be JJ with Marino; but reading between the lines, both Pettersson and Marino (and presumably Letang) are viewed to be better with their only current, reliable stay-at-home guy (JJ). And that 3rd pairing has plently of it's own weaknesses.

Making things worse is the roster freeze; can't make any moves now before 12/27. Kingerski says the team might just be crossing their fingers that Schultzie is back earlier rather than later.

Anyway, it appears we should prepare ourselves for problems in the Pens zone for the time being......especially with road games upcoming in Edmonton, Vancouver, and Nashville in the next week.
 
Pens have indeed recalled Czuzman and F Tommy DiPauli.....Czuzman fills the aforementioned numbers hole on the blueline, while DePauli takes Noesen's slot. Neither is evidently expected to dress tonight; though no thoughts as yet on their likelihood to dress tomorrow night in Vancouver.
 
Schultzie being called week-to-week with this new LBI suffered in Calgary the other night.

PHN believes this a crisis....particularly with Dumoutin already out.....since the next call-up from WB/S (Zach Trotman) is also injured. That evidently leaves Kevin Czuzman (13 NHL games played 6 years ago) as the next/only healthy available D-body at WB/S.

They've got Riikola on the roster, but the injuries mean he's evidently going to be forced to play his off-side. Anyway,.in practice yesterday, Letang was paired with JJ.....Pettersson with Marino......and Ruhwedel with Riikola.

I don't get the impression anyone is excited about those pairings. Sounds like the more ideal pairing would be JJ with Marino; but reading between the lines, both Pettersson and Marino (and presumably Letang) are viewed to be better with their only current, reliable stay-at-home guy (JJ). And that 3rd pairing has plently of it's own weaknesses.

Making things worse is the roster freeze; can't make any moves now before 12/27. Kingerski says the team might just be crossing their fingers that Schultzie is back earlier rather than later.

Anyway, it appears we should prepare ourselves for problems in the Pens zone for the time being......especially with road games upcoming in Edmonton, Vancouver, and Nashville in the next week.
Thanks for the great news lol...
 
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After his wacky-good performance in Pittsburgh, nice to see multiple pucks going behind Smith early in this game.
 
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