USC barely gets 50K at home now Allen
The Chargers and Rams are about to kill them off
Can’t sell what isn’t there
The Chargers and Rams are about to kill them off
Can’t sell what isn’t there
Maybe the Big 12 is not dead yet
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Rather watch Youngstown State than f...ing Sooners or Texas Shorthorns for that matter.
I don't think we are going to have to worry about a future that sees Texas coming to Morgantown. Memphis sounds more interesting than an open date on the schedule.
Sweet fresh take. Would have never thought of Little8 adding 2-8 lower level programs. Never would have thought of some of the programs you mentioned.
To me P5 is a concept. Much like ”haves and have nots”. You know.......something like “Big12 and Little8”.
I doubt they stop there. USC will be like WVU in the Big 12 geographically, except they will not be as much of a welfare case as WVU was for the Big 12. Hence I see 2 more PAC 12 teams coming along with USC in that scenario with likely more after. I see the Big 10 also taking a Northern California team for TV market and possibly Oregon for Nike money and NW market. In that scenario Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Illinois will have to be part of western group. Outside of Wisconsin, I doubt the Big 10 will give much of a crap about objections. Or they just throw Indiana or Perdue into that camp to make Wisconsin happy.
There you go again. Why are you so prejudiced against BYU? Is it because of their honor code?
USC to the PAC looks very unlikely.
They are running into similar problems.
Cal 4 schools are together. Stanford doesn’t want to leave the conference.
Now it is about does the PAC 12 want Tx Tech.
I think there is movement there because it wouldn’t be too much trouble to dramatically improve the academic standing of Tx Tech.
Tx Tech has been decent in sports besides football.
David Shaw said publicly today that they desire schools who compete in sports. Not just in football
They are running into similar problems.
Cal 4 schools are together. Stanford doesn’t want to leave the conference.
Now it is about does the PAC 12 want Tx Tech.
I think there is movement there because it wouldn’t be too much trouble to dramatically improve the academic standing of Tx Tech.
Tx Tech has been decent in sports besides football.
David Shaw said publicly today that they desire schools who compete in sports. Not just in football
Shhhh...she still thinks that USC is in the Big 12 (9).
Makes since. Strengthen up Western Division would be huge for B1G.
Not according to experts. Which everyone knows you are not.
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With the future at stake, the Pac-12 must keep its football powers happy — starting with USC
I think this will keep the Big 12 at a Power 5 level and even though the teams that I mentioned are not the name brand of Texas or Oklahoma they have value and could quickly become relevant. BYU is a name brand school. Cincy and Central Florida could hold their own in any conference. Memphis brings Fed Ex $$$$$ and fertile recruiting grounds. Houston brings a huge TV market and the best talent rich area in Texas. So from WVU standpoint lets look at some possible matchups
WVU vs Cincy Cincy is ranked has been ranked and is a close drive from MOTOWN.
WVU VS Memphis Memphis has a great venue and kind of has that SEC feel to the area and who would not want to go to Memphis for some Jazz and BBQ
WVU vs Central Florida Orlando not a bad place to visit and Central FLorida also has a very good Football team
WVU vs BYU the battle of the U's
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Thats what they thought when Miami and VT left for the ACC and the Big East brought in Cincy LVille and SFlorida and the BIG east was just as good. Right now if you added these teams and took out TX and OK you would still have 4 top ranked 25 teams'
#8 Cincy
#10 Iowa St
#16 BYU
#21 OK St
None of those are going to open the eyes of the media and say look at us we're a 40 million a team conference. Will be lucky to get 15 million per team.
Cincinnati always under the shadow of Ohio State and Big 10.
USF, UCF always under shadow of Florida and FSU.
UL meaningless in ACC.
BYU wannabe Notre Dame. (Except doesn't play on Sunday).
Memphis who are they again?
Houston below Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor. Brings nothing.
Big East has been gone for 10 years now.
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The Orlando, Houston, Memphis, Markets are huge . BYU has a national following. Cincy is in a football state and is top 10. This could turn into a great conference and make $$$$. Plus new and rich recruiting areas. Plus what I am saying these teams added to the Big 12 could make more $$$$ than just the 8 teams that are left just by themselves
You simply don’t get it sir. It’s ok to be a glass half full guy but the Little8 is in harms way.
They would have to split with 12 to 14 teams. Makes your so called money even less.
Cincinnati always under the shadow of Ohio State and Big 10.
USF, UCF always under shadow of Florida and FSU.
UL meaningless in ACC.
BYU wannabe Notre Dame. (Except doesn't play on Sunday).
Memphis who are they again?
Houston below Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor. Brings nothing.
Big East has been gone for 10 years now.
If they(Big 12) do nothing and stay pat no one is coming to save them. Iowa St and Kansas are not going to the BIG. WVU is not going ACC Texas tech and OK st not going PAC 12. And who knows where TCU and Baylor would go. If you add quality top teams from the AAC and BYU you have a shot to create a very competitive conference that are in growing markets
Well without expansion the Big 12 is under the AAC. Maybe not this year but in 10 years Central FL , Houston , Memphis, BYU , Cincy all pass KU , KST, ISU, WVU, Baylor ect. And who is memphis they played in a New years day bowl a few years ago against Penn State I think .. Other than Oklahoma who in the Big 12 has done that. So has Central Fl
How so? They have nothing. What is their contract? They just signed with ESPN for a 12 year 83.3 million dollar contract and comes out to 6.94 million per team. That's a 30 million dollar drop per team.
If all you have to do is be ranked to make conference money. Then might as well bring in Coastal Carolina and Liberty.
The TV markets that these schools would bring to the Big 12 is where the $$$ would be made. Ames Iowa is not Orlando or Houston. Plus these teams are winning teams for the most part a decade or more.
Since
2014 Memphis has won 65 games
2006 Cincy has won 129 games
2009 C Florida has won 102 games
2006 BYU has won 131 games
No one is going to watch Kansas play WVU in football but people will watch WVI play Central Florida. Its all about eyeballs and the remaining Big 12 teams are in states where there are very few of those. Adding Houston, Orlando, Cincy, BYU , Memphis TV markets adds eyeballs and TV sets.
But a very narrow one. Only reason people say they are big name is because they got luckily named NC back in a very weak year and they posturize themselves like ND. Along with some media hacks that go with it. That's it.
OK even if thats true they still have more people watching them then
Kansas
Kansas St
Iowa St
TCU
Baylor
And have won more games the past 15 years
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Who said stay pat and do nothing for Little8. No one said that. Non 69 IQs are saying adding AAC schools cement the Little8 as the red headed step child conference making $15,000,000 per year, if that.
What ultimately happened after the Big East brought in those teams?
Again slowpoke these are things important to the homers here but means little to the Conference heads and networks.
