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I don't click on alt-right, racist propaganda
You’re religion houses men that have brought substantial evil upon innocient people, it has protected them, it has enabled them. Religion isn’t the absolute pure and warm blanket for everyone in society the way it has been for you.
It hasn't been that's true, and WTH are you then?
A person that advocates for socialist solutions to economic problems is a SOCIALIST, but a nation that has implemented MANY socialist policies is not socialist. And I’m the one talking out of both sides of my mouth? Wake up!
Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Idi Amin. All Socialists. Total murdered under their watches?Nah, just the thousands of sexual assaults and slave owners and murdering crusaders
You’re religion houses men that have brought substantial evil upon innocient people, it has protected them, it has enabled them. Religion isn’t the absolute pure and warm blanket for everyone in society the way it has been for you.
No, you simply don't like factual statements that hurt your 'feelings'.
Ah, you’re not smart enough to realize it.....but you did.....twice
That advocating socialist solutions to economic problems (like MLK did) doesn’t make that person or their overall ideology ON EVERYTHING THAT IS....socialist. And surely doesn’t place them in this anti-god, supreme state, communist, anti-democracy, anti-aamerican camp that you continue to rail against.
You are arguing against him believing in socialism.......which isn't true......his own words support our claims.
The fact that you further conflate the question by bringing Dr. King’s religious affiliation and passion into the discussion is representative of how seriously warped your thinking has become
Now see....I have answered more than I should have or wanted to on that subject with you.....and you give me no credit because I don’t subscribe to an organized doctrine ? Just absolutely pettyYou will NEVER get a straight answer from him on that! Post me if you do.
Now see....I have answered more than I should have or wanted to on that subject with you.....and you give me no credit because I don’t subscribe to an organized doctrine ? Just absolutely petty
Not always....just you. And racists like bushy beaver....whom, if he has any respect for your intelligence, sees you as an outlier.Why do you always get to decide who's "smart enough" or who's "an idiot" or who "doesn't get" your line of reasoning?
Why are you such a pontifical epexegete?
The man believes intelligence is determined by race, and there is a racial hierarchy of intelligence. Maybe that’s not seeing things in terms of racial superiority and inferiority to you either, but it is to me.Why do you always get to decide who's "smart enough" or who's "an idiot" or who "doesn't get" your line of reasoning?
Why are you such a pontifical epexegete?
Yes you are an idiot. Because you said that BECAUSE he is Christian, he can’t believe that socialist solutions to issues are legitimate.(laughing) Dr. King's Religious affiliation and passion for Social Justice is what animated him...it's the essence of his work. I'm an idiot?
Bullsh1t. Tell me ONE thing that has changed!!!!! ONE! You are a liar.No no not at all Man. I just don't understand and your answer changes everytime you attempt to explain it. It hasn't been the same thing twice and that's what I was warning Brushy to look out for if you even care to answer him.
Bullsh1t. Tell me ONE thing that has changed!!!!! ONE! You are a liar.
Yes you are an idiot. Because you said that BECAUSE he is Christian, he can’t believe that socialist solutions to issues are legitimate.
That’s what I thought. You’re better than that atl. Don’t lie to belittle someone. I admire your passion and faith. Men like you are good Americans, good fathers, and good members of our communities. I think you have the true faith, but sometimes you seem to be more driven by resentment or anger than your faith, sometimes driven by ego more than service to your lord.It doesn't matter boomer. I can't lie about something I don't even understand. Carry on.
The man believes intelligence is determined by race, and there is a racial hierarchy of intelligence.
So now you’re saying that his desire to see socialist solutions to issues was sourced from Christianity, and so therefore somehow “less socialist”?I never said that. Now you're a liar. I said in order to understand his position on issues from a "moral" perspective, you have to understand what motivates ALL of his solutions. You can't simply limit his analysis to "Socialism" without understanding from where his beliefs about it emanate. MWV and you want to dismiss his beliefs or just leave it at Sociialism and his belief in it only. That is a disservice to him and a complete misunderstanding of why he'd even consider it. He was about social justice...anyway and anywhere he could find it to redress the evil of racism. He didn't see Socialism as a perfect solution boom, he saw it as a possible better answer to correct that immorality...something that doesn't even exist in either you or MWV's lexicon.
If you didn’t say that....what did you say? That his Christian faith makes his socialist ideology not socialist?I never said that. Now you're a liar. I said in order to understand his position on issues from a "moral" perspective, you have to understand what motivates ALL of his solutions. You can't simply limit his analysis to "Socialism" without understanding from where his beliefs about it emanate. MWV and you want to dismiss his beliefs or just leave it at Sociialism and his belief in it only. That is a disservice to him and a complete misunderstanding of why he'd even consider it. He was about social justice...anyway and anywhere he could find it to redress the evil of racism. He didn't see Socialism as a perfect solution boom, he saw it as a possible better answer to correct that immorality...something that doesn't even exist in either you or MWV's lexicon.
That’s why I call you a bushy little beaver....you’re too pussy to own up to your actual thoughts.....when you do have the nerve to post them.Lies
Moreover, MWV is Christian in faith, and your desire to belittle his ideological positions as not only wrong, but also an indicator of his lack of faith is very very petty, imo. And it isn’t very Christian in my opinion. Men of great faith, perhaps greater than your own, have been liberal in thought and left of center on social issues and economic issues.So now you’re saying that his desire to see socialist solutions to issues was sourced from Christianity, and so therefore somehow “less socialist”?
And if you think that each time I teach MLK, I don’t represent his Christian faith as a positive driving force to his ideology and action, you’re just crazy. But mine and MWV original point had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY. Nothing. You are just simply seeking to make MLK “more conservative” and “less prone to socialist solutions to policy” by inserting Christianity and claiming that no one on “the left” is truly Christian. Which, imo, is foolish and completely unfounded.
If you didn’t say that....what did you say? That his Christian faith makes his socialist ideology not socialist?
Hence all of the hullabaloo. MLK sought socialist solutions. He had a liberal and socialist economic ideology. His Christian faith not withstanding. And not everyone that has socialist ideology seeks a dominance of the state over human affairs. Again, just foolish and petty.I said his Christian beliefs animate all he examines as a possible solution to whatever immorality he views. He cannot see it through any other prism because his Christian belief system is the core of his moral philosophy which is based on Godly Justice through his Holy Word. That is the prism through which Dr. King views both the immoraility of Rascism and all possible solutions regardless of their individual remedial source and nothing sourced in the solutions overrides his primary assessment that all must fit within Almighty God's call for righteousness.
Socialists don't view their philosophical or economic system through that same moral prism so Dr. King would not consider their solutions as only a means to the sole end of domaince of the State over Human affairs. Quite the opposite.
Moreover, MWV is Christian in faith, and your desire to belittle his ideological positions as not only wrong, but also an indicator of his lack of faith is very very petty, imo. And it isn’t very Christian in my opinion. Men of great faith, perhaps greater than your own, have been liberal in thought and left of center on social issues and economic issues.
Hence all of the hullabaloo. MLK sought socialist solutions. He had a liberal and socialist economic ideology. His Christian faith not withstanding. And not everyone that has socialist ideology seeks a dominance of the state over human affairs. Again, just foolish and petty.
That’s why I call you a bushy little beaver....you’re too pussy to own up to your actual thoughts.....when you do have the nerve to post them.
I can very much speak as to what is Christian. We don’t live in some Christian fascist nation just yet there atl. And I know more about the doctrine than you think I do. But I don’t claim to be of even adequate understanding of your faith, but it just seems petty that you find it legitimate to judge so viciously and thoroughly. Do you ask the same (or expect the same) open assertions of faith from someone like Brushy? Or is it only Christians that support Democrats that have to PROVE their faith to you?You cannot speak about what is or is not "Christian" boomer when you reject the entire belief system! MWV says he's Christian but simply saying it and not practicing it are two different things. I can't judge his walk but based on what he says and his refusal to express his beliefs as most Christians do, I do not view his professions of Christianity to be genuine or believable. That is discernment and what Christ compels all Christians to be lest they be deceived.
He rarely if ever mentions his views on Christ, how he is influenced by him, what motivateds his beliefs in him or how that manifests itself in governance over his Life. The true measure of your Christian walk. You have no such questions about me because I amplify that constantly to you and others much to your derision I might add but my point is you do not misunderstand my position as it relates to Christ nor how he influences my thought process.
Can you say the same thing about MWV?
That’s what I thought. You’re better than that atl. Don’t lie to belittle someone. I admire your passion and faith. Men like you are good Americans, good fathers, and good members of our communities. I think you have the true faith, but sometimes you seem to be more driven by resentment or anger than your faith, sometimes driven by ego more than service to your lord.
I’m sure I’m wrong. And a db is no place to truly evaluate someone.
And for the record, I don’t think you’re an idiot. But I do think you grossly misrepresent my position in discussion.
And I think your desire to define EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE that thinks differently from you as godless, mindless, anti-democracy, anti-Constitution, anti-American, and wrong is petty and foolish.
MLK sought socialist solutions to economic issues. The labeling of who is socialist and what is socialist is just more of your foolish desire to categorize everything that’s different from you into neat little piles below your feet. It’s probably why you are struggling so much with MLK’s socialist ideological assertions. Cognitive dissonance can be problematic for those so rigid in their vision of the world around them.Socialists seek domainance of the State over all social affairs boom. There is no room for Theology or Christ in their attmepts to Socialize the masses. Matter of fact that is the first thing they attmept to eliminate...all references to any diety...not just Christ. How in the Hell do you put Dr. King into that category?
I can very much speak as to what is Christian. We don’t live in some Christian fascist nation just yet there atl. And I know more about the doctrine than you think I do. But I don’t claim to be of even adequate understanding of your faith, but it just seems petty that you find it legitimate to judge so viciously and thoroughly. Do you ask the same (or expect the same) open assertions of faith from someone like Brushy? Or is it only Christians that support Democrats that have to PROVE their faith to you?
Maybe some people are not concerned with mixing faith and policy in every discussion. Maybe some aren’t interested in comparing or confirming their faith to someone else on a db. Maybe MWV mentions his faith and motivations often and passionately in his life outside of this forum.
Maybe thinking you have the right to judge other Christians so adamantly is not a righteous as you think it is?
The labeling of who is socialist and what is socialist is just more of your foolish desire to categorize everything that’s different from you into neat little piles below your feet
Are you saying that all people of faith are not racist?All you and MWV and many on the Left do is judge (especially Christians) and claim outrage when you are similarly judged. Tell me boom, what makes a Christian "racist"? Many of you and MWV himself have claimed that about Christians who happen to believe in smaller Government. What then makes that preference "racist"? What do you Leftists judge that assessment on?
Do you have any idea how evil and nasty that is to label all people of Faith as "racists" simply they believe in allowing folks to rise to their God given capabilites instead of depending on Government to do that for them? I've heard MWV call people of Faith that, and you expect me to believe he's a Christian?
Yet socialism is employed in this nation and others with success. And for the like 40th time, NEITHER ME OR MWV SAID THAT MLK WAS A SOCIALIST! And your failure to understand the premise of the discussion is paralleled to your warped vision of the world.No it isnt. I have defined Socialists and what they believe as well as why they beleive it. Dr. King is nothing like any of them even if he thinks some of their philosophy was correct. (I disagree with that btw...but I understand why he thought that)
Capitalism works, and is working for Blacks. Freedom works too. Socialism doesn't work and that is not my opinion that is measured in Truth by its dismal performance throughout world history especially when compared to Freedom and Capitalism.
If you didn’t say that....what did you say? That his Christian faith makes his socialist ideology not socialist?
re you saying that all people of faith are not racist?
Are you saying I have the same views as all “leftists”?
Are you saying that I personally think all people of faith are racists?
Geez.....little off the rails there.