certainly that is one opinion and living in a free society where an opinion can be discussed towards an eventually through the freedom to vote for it even if it is an ideology of a given party. So it isn't really false until either proven false or totally rejected by not voting for it.
You didn't. I was asking. As for parties, I'm cool with no parties, but that doesn't get rid of parties you know. Besides, parties aren't allied anymore. They are only there for name/election purposes. The people in them (elected officials) are owned, bought and paid for, by private companies and organizations. Get rid of that, and maybe we are getting somewhere.
I can always count on you to articulate exactly what I’m trying to say.
Yep! As I always say, the only way it works is if both parties are involved in the corruption.
Maxine is a great example of how America works in a representative government. Of the people and by the people. Damn her people are one dumba$$ group of free citizens to vote for whomever they want. And they did.
ideologies are a world view no different than a religion shaping a world view. Politics is about power and so a collection of points of view shape what a party is. Leftist, socialist, and liberal judge the value of a person based on materialism. So they can promise things. Yet they would rather the poor be poor than the rich get richer. The left do not teach values you stated. It's all external to them. Nothing internal. The things that made America great are things the left loathe. The hate America's greatness and want America destroyed and made into something else. They believe America was founded illegitimately.
I respect what you want but free will doesn't end in this type of presentation when one side can promise materialism to others through the use of a vote. Marxists and other forms of liberalism in our country have the upper hand by promising something they can't deliver by the vote. If they keep promising free outcomes by voting for a certain candidate conservatism has to battle harder sustain itself. Conservatism is incompatible with the forceable taking from other to give to another under law.
You’re not alone. While I agree we need workers rights and protections, I think the rest of liberal ideology is ALL wrong.
I'm interested to hear your opinion on the proposed revision of the WV abortion law. To summarize, they basically criminalized any abortion, including rape or incest including minors. Only medical emergency abortions.
I don’t believe in abortion. I also believe in judgement day, so take that however you want. While your examples are very rare, I believe abortion should only be utilized in emergency situations or whenever the child will not survive due to defects etc. It may surprise you, but I also support states rights. Which is the basis of the SCOTUS opinion on overturning Roe vs Wade.
I don’t personally agree with those changes but at the same time, those account for less than 1% of abortions.
It’s also worth noting, adoption is always an option. Incest or rape victims can choose to give the child up for adoption.
Exactly. These people act like there’s only one option and they must abort. A wise person once said, “If it was really your body, your choice—you would be the one who dies and not the baby”. Honestly, I think that puts it into perspective.
What's your thoughts about a child (rape/incest), say 13 years old or younger?
Great point lol. Liberals are soo concerned with the consequences of pregnancy these preteens go through for rape and incest, yet these same adult liberals want to allow themselves (pedophiles) to engage in sex with these kids and create these very same situations. Makes no sense. Like you said…they’re sick people.
The principal you and I and many Pro Lifers argue when it comes to this issue is all human Life comes from Almighty God, who is both Life creator and sustainer. We have no authority or providence arbitrarily deciding who lives or dies because we have no power over that! Circumstances of birth or conception do not change that dynamic for us!
Again, it’s the misunderstanding of “my body my choice”. It’s a false assumption by liberal women who have compared aborting their fetus as a body part of themselves, thus forgetting it is indeed a separate person and life. It’s an argument that would make sense if the woman chose to amputate her arm. It’s her body and her choice. As I said earlier, if it was really her body and her choice, she would be the one who dies and not the baby. The easiest solution to this madness is keep your legs closed until you’re ready for a child. Or get a hysterectomy and have the man get a vasectomy. Otherwise, if you’re willing to play, be willing to pay.
Fair enough. Can you please post some statistics on the numbers of abortions as a result of rape or incest in WV compared to the all the rest?
No matter the statistics, which will be quite low, Adoption is still the better alternative. I just cannot justify murder due to inconvenience.
I'm actually willing to make an exception for rape or incest as long as we ban the vast majority of the rest, but that's not what the pro Aborts are willing to agree to. They don't want any restrictions on it at all!
You responded to my typo mistake. I meant adoption is the better alternative. Not abortion
Yes I agree. Adoption is always preferable to death. However in order to get most abortions banned, if we on the Pro Life side have to compromise with the Pro Death crowd, I'd be willing to allow exceptions for rape and incest if we could save the lives of the other 99% of innocent babies who are slaughtered just because they're unwanted.
www.abortionfacts.com
Stats? Whether ONE or ONE MILLION does it matter when/if a 12 year old gets raped?
