GAME THREAD West Virginia football at Iowa State
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Remember when Holgorsen became head coach and the offense became instantly better? Remember how it kinda proved that the players were not the problem, but that the previous staff was just inept? Then remeber how that offense collapsed against subpar 2012 Big 12 defenses because our defense was far worse than theirs leading to beatdowns by TTU and KSU similar today? Then remember when the current staff came in and the defense immediately started playing better proving that the players were not the problem, but rather the previous staff was inept? Then remeber in the following season when the same defense collapsed under the pressure of a completely inept offense and led to the beatdown that just happened?
You are such a simpleton and hold this splitting mentality between Brown and Holgorsen. NO MATTER WHAT BROWN'S FAILINGS ARE, IT DOES NOT MEAN HOLGERSON WAS A GOOD ENOUGH COACH TO MAKE WVU COMPETITIVE FOR A BIG XII CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP. As far as what is fair regarding comparing the two, if Brown gets to season 4 and averages less than 5.5 Big 12 wins per year for 5 years after that, then I'll say Holgorsen was the better coach despite his failings. And that is being generous to Holgerson because it doesn't include his 5-4 second season and 2-7 third season.
wrong again— ISU had same number of wins as this season- 8 and WVU lost that one 30-14. Brown couldnt even get to double digits. That WVU team won 8 games as well- kind of important. They didnt just get five wins- in fact lost by 3 to playoff bound OU which if theyd scored four more pts, WVU would have played in the BIG 12 CCG.
More importantly it wasnt good enough- you morons bitched and moaned til he was gone- and now you are celebrating mr 5 wins? Obviously not interested in WVU football, just hating or worshipping coaches.
Holgorsen was the second winningest coach in WVU HISTORY. I repeat. The second winningest coach in the schools history. But against the toughest schedules ever in school history. He took WVU from a depleted Big East to a major conference halfway across the country and won far more than he lost.
It wasnt perfect, but it also wasnt FINISHED. In his last season WVU was 4 freaking pts against playoff bound Oklahoma from playing for the BIG 12 title. DH also won 8 games that season. Not 5!
He had another season with 10 wins in the BIG 12 and others with 8 and all you know nothing about football morons did was bitch and moan and agitate til he was gone.
Now you CELEBRATE a non competitive, non winning coach that cant deliver more than 5 wins a season? That has WVU getting blown out against good teams and scoring 14 or less points in most?
Too bad your fragile egos are bruised but your worthless ideas of what WVU needs for a coach have sunk WVU to the bottom.
1 year to go or its likely on to The next-hopefully next time football coaching ability will drive the choice, not fitting the good ole boys club.
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Trying to identify something Brown and his team's do well and whatever it is, it isn't glaring. With DH you knew you were going to have good WR's and offensive production...even if everything else sucked.
There's no rush for Brown, imo. This season is a throwaway. If the team performs next season it will serve as a reset.
WVU football just isnt very fun to watch anymore. Glad I had stuff to do after the 1st half yesterday. Was easier to look at the stats on the interwebs than it would've been to watch that embarrassment of a game.
Trust The Climb my fkn ass. Looks like we are headed for a new day of WVU football where we just hope to be bowl eligible every year instead of competing in a weak conference like the Big 12.
Trust The Climb my fkn ass. Looks like we are headed for a new day of WVU football where we just hope to be bowl eligible every year instead of competing in a weak conference like the Big 12.
Wrong Iowa State wasn't picked to compete for a conference championship that year and we were. Wvu was throughly embarrassed that night. The same team that finished the year getting blown out by an acc team. The 2020 Iowa State is excepted to compete for the big 12 title the 2020 wvu team for supposed to compete with Kansas for the wooden spoon. Iowa state played the part which we failed to do in 2018. Get back to reality.
and Ohio State was embarassed by Purdue in that same season. Has NOTHING to do with the FACT that WVU team won 8 games. Did Brown win 8 games in a season at WVU? NO.
In fact he is only 2 games beyond that in TWO SEASONS!!!!
Obviously since your ego is injured and refuses to admit how wrong you were, you are digging for anything to change the subject, but the reality is Holgorsen had WVU on the cusp of playing in BIG 12 Championships. You couldn't stand that. Wasn't good enough. And now for some inexplicable reason you are trying to sell that getting shellacked by good teams and eking out wins against damn near everyone else including fcs squads, and finishing with losing or .500 seasons is better than 8 wins and 4 pts shy of a BIG 12 championship game?!?
Obviously you don't live in reality, you try to make it up as you go to fit whatever b.s. narrative you want to push.
It was a tough day yesterday and I to am frustrated, but your rant should be stricken from the board. The previous coaching staff did nothing as far as building a program in 8 years. Bill Stewart was committed but lacked the tools. Look around the college football landscape and look at the difficulty building a program How long has Tennessee, South Carolina, UCLA even Texas, who has money, tradition and fertile recruiting ground, tried to return to former tradition? This is a difficult thing to do today. There are a few really outstanding coaches like Dabo and Nick who now have the tradition in the program to build off. It was not long ago that Clemson was struggling to regain a top spot. I too make statements I regret in the heat of battle but all the negativity helps nothing. As far as I know none of the posters have won a national championship so at least let's attempt to show a little class!
Lets Go Mountaineers!!
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revisionist history. WVU under the previous staff excelled in the old Big East right off the bat then became competitive in a league that was rated top one or two in the nation most years. 18 wins first three seasons and 33 in the last four with two 8 win seasons and a 10 win season.
This year is the most down the BIG 12 has been since WVU joined the conference by a longshot and the present staff has a losing conference record in its second year again.
This staff isnt building anything and the two year results illustrate that clearly. Nothing they have done points to this imaginary improvement— rather it points to utter collapse of what had been established.
The previous staff built WVU up to close to Heisman contention and 4 pts from playing for BIG 12 championships.
the new staff has managed lots of 14 pt or fewer losses, narrow eked out wins over fcs squads and Kansas, the worst rushing attack in nearly the entire country and a losing record.
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Lot of if and buts in your candy nuts. Dana had his fair share of totally getting his ass kicked and losing games he shouldn't. You need to stop with your corn hole love for the guy or become a Houston fan. You can't compare a guy with 102 games caoched in 8 years to some with 21 games coached and in a Covid year. Take your shit talk of ignorance and leave. I mean who scores 56 points and loses. That's what is embarrassing. In regulation to beat all. I mean I can understand scoring 56 and losing in OT. Campbell is a good coach. It's his 5th year playing with his recruits and has shown the fruits of his labor. Neal Brown still playing with Holgorsen left overs.
If this continues past 4 years obviously he is gone. So until then STFU.
Here's Dan choke jobs and embarrassment's.
Dana Holgorsen - 2011 / 10-3 (5-2)
13-1 (8-0) LSU 47 WVU 21
5-7 (1-6) Syracuse 49 WVU 23
7-6 (5-2) Louisville 38 WVU 35
Dana Holgorsen - 2012 / 7-6 (4-5)
8-5 (4-5) Texas Tech 49 WVU 14
11-2 (8-1) Kansas State 55 WVU 14
7-6 (4-5) TCU 39 WVU 38
8-5 (5-2) Syracuse 38 WVU 14
Dana Holgorsen - 2013 / 4-8 (2-7)
11-2 (7-2) Oklahoma 16-7
7-6 (3-5) Maryland 37 WVU 0
11-2 (8-1) Baylor 73 WVU 42
8-5 (4-5) Texas Tech 37 WVU 27
8-5 (5-4) Kansas State 35 WVU 12
8-5 (7-2) Texas 47 WVU 40
3-9 (1-8) Kansas 31 WVU 19
3-9 (2-7) Iowa State 52 WVU 44
Dana Holgorsen - 2014 / 7-6 (5-4)
12-2 (8-1) Alabama 33 WVU 23
8-5 (5-4) Oklahoma 45 WVU 33
12-1 (8-1) TCU 31 WVU 30
5-4 (6-7) Texas 33 WVU 16
9-4 (7-2) Kansas State 26 WVU 20
8-5 (3-5) Texas A&M 45 WVU 37
Dana Holgorsen - 2015 / 8-5 (4-5)
11-2 (8-1) Oklahoma 44 WVU 24
10-3 (7-2) Oklahoma State 33 WVU 26
10-3 (6-3) Baylor 62 WVU 38
7-2 (11-2) TCU 40 WVU 10 (Dana says high 5 to opposing QB)
6-7 (3-6) Kansas State 24 WVU 23
Dana Holgorsen - 2016 / 10-3 (7-2)
10-3 (7-2) Oklahoma State 37 WVU 20
11-2 (9-0) Oklahoma 56 WVU 28
9-4 (5-3) Miami, Fl. 31 WVU 14
Dana Holgorsen - 2017 / 7-6 (5-4)
9-4 (5-3) Virginia Tech 31 WVU 24
11-3 (7-2) TCU 31 WVU 24
10-3 (6-3) Oklahoma State 50 WVU 39
7-6 (5-4) Texas 28 WVU 14
8-1 (12-2) Oklahoma 59 WVU 31
7-6 (3-6) Utah 30 WVU 14
Dana Holgorsen - 2018 / 8-4 (6-3)
8-5 (6-3) Iowa State 30 WVU 14
7-6 (3-6) Oklahoma State 45 WVU 41 (blew a 17 point lead in 2nd half)
12-2 (8-1) Oklahoma 59 WVU 56 (score 56 in regulation and lose? that's embarrassing )
10-3 (6-2) Syracuse 38 WVU 14
Excelled really? They were blown out by the last place team in a weakened Big East and had to rely on others to beat the teams in front so they could tie for a share of the lead.
Eked out FCS games? William & Mary ring a bell. Eked out over KU. Does KU first conference win in God knows how long ring a bell in 2013. Heisman contention by beating a bunch of nobody's and failing when it mattered most.
Bucky has his entire room covered in Dana posters. His mom said she thinks he masturbates to them. Who knows
Have to forgive him.
Have to forgive him.
So you are going to argue that a team who won an Orange Bowl didn't excel?
Argument is worthless...
No Big East No Orange Bowl
That was provided by the Big East Conference
Similar to Ohio State and Oklahoma in the CFP.
Most likely in the SEC neither would have made the CFP the last few years.
In the Big 12 Dana had to raise the level. He was given about six years to do so and couldn't
Now it is Neal Brown's turn
No Big East No Orange Bowl
That was provided by the Big East Conference
Similar to Ohio State and Oklahoma in the CFP.
Most likely in the SEC neither would have made the CFP the last few years.
In the Big 12 Dana had to raise the level. He was given about six years to do so and couldn't
Now it is Neal Brown's turn
Ohio State won the very first National Championship in the CFP era, and beat the SEC's kingpin Alabama along the way, TrollVanZandt. Your argument makes as much sense as your creation of 30+ profiles and masquerading as a fan of fledgling Texass.
Oh, the CFP Committee cares, Chrissy, and that's why we get invited to the dance every other year. You're still begging for invitation No. 1, and may not live to see it.
What you said makes no sense because your IQ is sub-80, Chrissy. Marshall virtual classes won't change this unfortunate reality for you.
Reread the conversation.
What I said is true so you responded like a little girl.
Ohio State's 1 championship doesn't change 15 years of when Ohio State failed.
What I said is true so you responded like a little girl.
Ohio State's 1 championship doesn't change 15 years of when Ohio State failed.
You're the dumbest football fanatic on Planet Earth, Chrissy. Only 6 CFP national championship games have been played, and you don't even pretend to root for one of the winners. If a national title is the only measure of success, then what the hell are you doing here? None of your real or fake favorite schools has even sniffed a playoff berth. You should never post again, using your own bullsh!t criteria.
All bowl affiliations are provided by their conference.
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