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RFK Jr. debunks claims Jan. 6 was 'insurrection'

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Democrats for years now have claimed that the Jan. 6, 2021, protest-turned-riot at the U.S. Capitol was a full-fledged "insurrection."
That would include plans by the rioters to seize the government, its economy, its military, is executive branch, its legislature, its courts and international relations.

RFK Jr. notes protesters 'had no plans or ability to seize the reins of government'.

"I have not examined the evidence in detail, but reasonable people, including Trump opponents, tell me there is little evidence of a true insurrection. They observe that the protestors carried no weapons, had no plans or ability to seize the reins of government, and that Trump himself had urged them to protest 'peacefully,'" he said.

But he does have concern for how Joe Biden and his appointees have manipulated the situation.

"Like many reasonable Americans, I am concerned about the possibility that political objectives motivated the vigor of the prosecution of the J6 defendants, their long sentences, and their harsh treatment. That would fit a disturbing pattern of the weaponization of government agencies — the DoJ, the IRS, the SEC, the FBI, etc. — against political opponents," he warned.

He said political opponents in America should be defeated "at the ballot box," rather than through "legal maneuvers and dirty tricks."

In fact, Democrats have launched a multitude of criminal charges, often on the shakiest of foundations, against President Trump, trying to hamstring his 2024 presidential campaign.

Kennedy said political parties now appear to be campaigning "on the demonization of their opponents and all who support them."
 
Democrats for years now have claimed that the Jan. 6, 2021, protest-turned-riot at the U.S. Capitol was a full-fledged "insurrection."
That would include plans by the rioters to seize the government, its economy, its military, is executive branch, its legislature, its courts and international relations.

RFK Jr. notes protesters 'had no plans or ability to seize the reins of government'.

"I have not examined the evidence in detail, but reasonable people, including Trump opponents, tell me there is little evidence of a true insurrection. They observe that the protestors carried no weapons, had no plans or ability to seize the reins of government, and that Trump himself had urged them to protest 'peacefully,'" he said.

But he does have concern for how Joe Biden and his appointees have manipulated the situation.

"Like many reasonable Americans, I am concerned about the possibility that political objectives motivated the vigor of the prosecution of the J6 defendants, their long sentences, and their harsh treatment. That would fit a disturbing pattern of the weaponization of government agencies — the DoJ, the IRS, the SEC, the FBI, etc. — against political opponents," he warned.

He said political opponents in America should be defeated "at the ballot box," rather than through "legal maneuvers and dirty tricks."

In fact, Democrats have launched a multitude of criminal charges, often on the shakiest of foundations, against President Trump, trying to hamstring his 2024 presidential campaign.

Kennedy said political parties now appear to be campaigning "on the demonization of their opponents and all who support them."
Say it ain't so .... a objective person who dislikes Trump can see the corruption in our government.
Only socialists think it's ok
 
What a moron....sucking up to MAGA voters. He's desperate for attention.
You actually believe the rioters on Jan 6th were going to overthrow our Government?
Completely laughable...Tell us how they were going to achieve that feat.
What is your theory...Did Trump give them the nuke codes ?
 
You actually believe the rioters on Jan 6th were going to overthrow our Government?
Completely laughable...Tell us how they were going to achieve that feat.
What is your theory...Did Trump give them the nuke codes ?
The Republicans who voted to overturn the election

smh Ok, one more time...Jan 6 was just a day in the larger effort for Trump to stay in power after he lost the election aka the insurrection but Jan 6 was a key day as that was when the certification vote got interrupted but that insurrectionist effort failed when Pense did what he was supposed to do and certify the election. I guess MAGA folks and politicians think they're being cute and clever when they suggest that Jan 6 was the totality of the insurrection then ask dopey questions like you did. How about the slates of fake electors or the votes by the 147 congressional Repubs to not accept the outcome of the election? It (the insurrection) was a large, party-wide effort to keep Trump in power and it took place over more than one day. It's always good to beat this horse one more time except with Kennedy trying to gain some insurrectionist street cred by being sympathetic to the convicted Jan 6 criminals. He should have gone full MAGA and called them hostages. RFK Jr. didn't debunk anything lol great thread title.
 
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smh Ok, one more time...Jan 6 was just a day in the larger effort for Trump to stay in power after he lost the election aka the insurrection but Jan 6 was a key day as that was when the certification vote got interrupted but that insurrectionist effort failed when Pense did what he was supposed to do and certify the election. I guess MAGA folks and politicians think they're being cute and clever when they suggest that Jan 6 was the totality of the insurrection then ask dopey questions like you did. How about the slates of fake electors or the votes by the 147 congressional Repubs to not accept the outcome of the election? It (the insurrection) was a large, party-wide effort to keep Trump in power and it took place over more than one day. It's always good to beat this horse one more time except with Kennedy trying to gain some insurrectionist street cred by being sympathetic to the convicted Jan 6 criminals. He should have gone full MAGA and called them hostages.
Bingo
 
The Republicans who voted to overturn the election

smh Ok, one more time...Jan 6 was just a day in the larger effort for Trump to stay in power after he lost the election aka the insurrection but Jan 6 was a key day as that was when the certification vote got interrupted but that insurrectionist effort failed when Pense did what he was supposed to do and certify the election. I guess MAGA folks and politicians think they're being cute and clever when they suggest that Jan 6 was the totality of the insurrection then ask dopey questions like you did. How about the slates of fake electors or the votes by the 147 congressional Repubs to not accept the outcome of the election? It (the insurrection) was a large, party-wide effort to keep Trump in power and it took place over more than one day. It's always good to beat this horse one more time except with Kennedy trying to gain some insurrectionist street cred by being sympathetic to the convicted Jan 6 criminals. He should have gone full MAGA and called them hostages. RFK Jr. didn't debunk anything lol great thread title.
OK...ONE MORE TIME....Trump tried to overturn the election
results...agreed !
Tell me again your theory as to how the rioters were going to take over the House...the Senate and the Armed Forces.
You are beating a dead horse...there was a riot and Trump wanted the election results nullified...get over it with all your dopey conspiracy theories.
 
dopey conspiracy theories.
It's like you didn't even read the post you're responding to. Also, you start a thread about an 'insurrection' being debunked and then agree that Trump tried to overturn the election. Make up your mind. Name one 'dopey conspiracy theory' that I've posted today. So Trump didn't try to stay in office after he lost the election? did you miss that?
 
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Rebecca Lavrenz, a 71-year-old great-grandmother who operates a bed and breakfast outside of Colorado Springs, was convicted by a 12-member jury in Washington, D.C., on Thursday of entering and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, and parading, demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol.
Sentencing is scheduled for Aug. 12, and Lavrenz reportedly could face up to a year in prison and fines of more than $200,000, excluding legal fees.
 
It's like you didn't even read the post you're responding to. Name one 'dopey conspiracy theory' that I've posted today. So Trump didn't try to stay in office after he lost the election? did you miss that?
What is wrong with you...
OK...ONE MORE TIME....Trump tried to overturn the election
results...agreed !
 
The Republicans who voted to overturn the election

smh Ok, one more time...Jan 6 was just a day in the larger effort for Trump to stay in power after he lost the election aka the insurrection but Jan 6 was a key day as that was when the certification vote got interrupted but that insurrectionist effort failed when Pense did what he was supposed to do and certify the election. I guess MAGA folks and politicians think they're being cute and clever when they suggest that Jan 6 was the totality of the insurrection then ask dopey questions like you did. How about the slates of fake electors or the votes by the 147 congressional Repubs to not accept the outcome of the election? It (the insurrection) was a large, party-wide effort to keep Trump in power and it took place over more than one day. It's always good to beat this horse one more time except with Kennedy trying to gain some insurrectionist street cred by being sympathetic to the convicted Jan 6 criminals. He should have gone full MAGA and called them hostages. RFK Jr. didn't debunk anything lol great thread title.
Sadly there’s a like minded moron like yourself who probably read your post, believed it, and ultimately became dumber.

1.). Demanding verification of final election results is not illegal or an insurrection. It’s common sense. The fact your party has painted this false narrative shows me they are hiding the truth

2.). During the certification process, a state leader called his own state election results into question. At that point, Pence should not have allowed certification

3.). State legislators are not fake electors

Final conclusion, you’re still an msm believing moron
 
Sadly there’s a like minded moron like yourself who probably read your post, believed it, and ultimately became dumber.

1.). Demanding verification of final election results is not illegal or an insurrection. It’s common sense. The fact your party has painted this false narrative shows me they are hiding the truth

2.). During the certification process, a state leader called his own state election results into question. At that point, Pence should not have allowed certification

3.). State legislators are not fake electors

Final conclusion, you’re still an msm believing moron
But....Keep in Mind... A 12 member D.C. Jury.
 
You totally dismissed what Kennedy said.
lol I read it. He's spewing absurd right-wing political nonsense and is taking a stand as a candidate who is for political violence and against the rule of law just like Trump. I'm way less concerned about Kennedy stealing many Dem votes.
 
lol I read it. He's spewing absurd right-wing political nonsense and is taking a stand as a candidate who is for political violence and against the rule of law just like Trump. I'm way less concerned about Kennedy stealing many Dem votes.
Dufus, what is this “rule of law” you keep repeating? Last I checked, it’s ok to protest. Ask Seattle or Baltimore.
 
It's like you didn't even read the post you're responding to. Also, you start a thread about an 'insurrection' being debunked and then agree that Trump tried to overturn the election. Make up your mind. Name one 'dopey conspiracy theory' that I've posted today. So Trump didn't try to stay in office after he lost the election? did you miss that?
Insurrection and trying to overturn an election are entirely two different things...very simple.
Al Gore tried very hard to overturn an election. Gore wanted a recount....but only where he wanted.
 
Insurrection and trying to overturn an election are entirely two different things...very simple.
Al Gore tried very hard to win an election. Gore wanted a recount....but only where he wanted.
The indictments speak for themselves.
 
lol I read it. He's spewing absurd right-wing political nonsense and is taking a stand as a candidate who is for political violence and against the rule of law just like Trump. I'm way less concerned about Kennedy stealing many Dem votes.

You are calling Kennedy right wing now? That's just stupid.
 
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The Republicans who voted to overturn the election

smh Ok, one more time...Jan 6 was just a day in the larger effort for Trump to stay in power after he lost the election aka the insurrection but Jan 6 was a key day as that was when the certification vote got interrupted but that insurrectionist effort failed when Pense did what he was supposed to do and certify the election. I guess MAGA folks and politicians think they're being cute and clever when they suggest that Jan 6 was the totality of the insurrection then ask dopey questions like you did. How about the slates of fake electors or the votes by the 147 congressional Repubs to not accept the outcome of the election? It (the insurrection) was a large, party-wide effort to keep Trump in power and it took place over more than one day. It's always good to beat this horse one more time except with Kennedy trying to gain some insurrectionist street cred by being sympathetic to the convicted Jan 6 criminals. He should have gone full MAGA and called them hostages. RFK Jr. didn't debunk anything lol great thread title.
"The 2016 election was stolen for Donald Trump by Russian interference..."

-- Hillary Clinton
 
No insurrection on Jan 6, 2021. But here are list some of the real insurrections fomented by the Democrats:

- Attempted coup on a duly elected President by the CIA including a fake dossier planted by members of Congress with the assistance of the CIA
- Defunding law enforcement with the goal of creating chaos and increasing the power of government
- Open border policy that allows illegals to pour across with drugs, sex traffic, child abusers, and terrorists to run free through the country and giving them funds and support for breaking our laws.
- An foreign policy that supports our enemies and undermines our long term allies
- Allowing a POTUS to serve that has openly solicited and accepted bribes for himself and his family which makes him to be compromised on critical policy decisions.
- Using the judicial system to target political enemies, with special efforts to go after constitutional conservatives.
- A fiscal policy that has no real restraints and is bankrupting the country (both parties are to blame for this although some Republicans are trying to stem tide)
- Enacting policies that undermine our common American identity an seek to divide us along racial, gender, sexual preference, economic, and religious lines. A complete rejection of e.pluribus.unum.
- The creation and exponential growth the administrative state, the unelected and unaccountable 4th branch of government that destroys individual liberty, private property rights, and free enterprise.
- Coordination with social media conglomerates to stifle free and open expression as self appointed arbiters of what is real and what is fake news.

An impromptu riot where a bunch of knuckle heads made their way into the capital building, many of whom were encouraged to go in (and ushered in by Capitol Police ) pales in comparison to any of the above.
 
No insurrection on Jan 6, 2021. But here are list some of the real insurrections fomented by the Democrats:

- Attempted coup on a duly elected President by the CIA including a fake dossier planted by members of Congress with the assistance of the CIA
- Defunding law enforcement with the goal of creating chaos and increasing the power of government
- Open border policy that allows illegals to pour across with drugs, sex traffic, child abusers, and terrorists to run free through the country and giving them funds and support for breaking our laws.
- An foreign policy that supports our enemies and undermines our long term allies
- Allowing a POTUS to serve that has openly solicited and accepted bribes for himself and his family which makes him to be compromised on critical policy decisions.
- Using the judicial system to target political enemies, with special efforts to go after constitutional conservatives.
- A fiscal policy that has no real restraints and is bankrupting the country (both parties are to blame for this although some Republicans are trying to stem tide)
- Enacting policies that undermine our common American identity an seek to divide us along racial, gender, sexual preference, economic, and religious lines. A complete rejection of e.pluribus.unum.
- The creation and exponential growth the administrative state, the unelected and unaccountable 4th branch of government that destroys individual liberty, private property rights, and free enterprise.
- Coordination with social media conglomerates to stifle free and open expression as self appointed arbiters of what is real and what is fake news.

An impromptu riot where a bunch of knuckle heads made their way into the capital building, many of whom were encouraged to go in (and ushered in by Capitol Police ) pales in comparison to any of the above.
Difference between the socialists that approve all the above and normal thinking Americans is gonna show , even old school liberal as RFK Jr can see the corruption in his party .
 
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No insurrection on Jan 6, 2021. But here are list some of the real insurrections fomented by the Democrats:

- Attempted coup on a duly elected President by the CIA including a fake dossier planted by members of Congress with the assistance of the CIA
- Defunding law enforcement with the goal of creating chaos and increasing the power of government
- Open border policy that allows illegals to pour across with drugs, sex traffic, child abusers, and terrorists to run free through the country and giving them funds and support for breaking our laws.
- An foreign policy that supports our enemies and undermines our long term allies
- Allowing a POTUS to serve that has openly solicited and accepted bribes for himself and his family which makes him to be compromised on critical policy decisions.
- Using the judicial system to target political enemies, with special efforts to go after constitutional conservatives.
- A fiscal policy that has no real restraints and is bankrupting the country (both parties are to blame for this although some Republicans are trying to stem tide)
- Enacting policies that undermine our common American identity an seek to divide us along racial, gender, sexual preference, economic, and religious lines. A complete rejection of e.pluribus.unum.
- The creation and exponential growth the administrative state, the unelected and unaccountable 4th branch of government that destroys individual liberty, private property rights, and free enterprise.
- Coordination with social media conglomerates to stifle free and open expression as self appointed arbiters of what is real and what is fake news.

An impromptu riot where a bunch of knuckle heads made their way into the capital building, many of whom were encouraged to go in (and ushered in by Capitol Police ) pales in comparison to any of the above.
This is outstanding! I'd add to your first point illegal unmasking and spying on innocent Americans as part of the attempted coup. 😡

Excellent post.
 
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