Cool...which is why I dont watch WVU football anymore, they ruined it.
Wish them the worst.
WVU Release Neal Brown contract extension
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Cool...which is why I dont watch WVU football anymore, they ruined it.
Wish them the worst.
Unless you're sitting at the table then you don't know what was actually discussed. Its not like I'd go around quoting message board philosphers who are only speculating what happened. Dana got an extension because he won 10 games. Before that he didn't do anything to deserve one. There are quite a few AD's that would have fired his A$$ after the 2015 season. Everyone tries to postion themselves well before negotiations its part of the business process.
So I can tell them how much I fvcking disapprove of them...free country
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Sorry, I'm smart and can actually think for myself. Shame got worked and that's a fact.
Shame was scared to pay DH's buyout and fire him, so he tried to sabotage him in the public, then DH came in with a 10 win season...those are the FACTS. Lurch tried to play poker and lost his hand..
Shame looked silly and everyone but his ball-washers know it.
Only thing Neal Brown is woke about is that college coaches have to keep it cool with their players
Don't know anything about Neal Brown's politics. Don't particularly care who he voted for. Could have written in Mickey Mouse. Only thing that matters is winning football games. .
Calling him a SJW.
Not really thinking for yourself.
Don't know anything about Neal Brown's politics. Don't particularly care who he voted for. Could have written in Mickey Mouse. Only thing that matters is winning football games. .
Calling him a SJW.
Not really thinking for yourself.
Then call them on the phone cause I'm sure they don't read this board.
Have to laugh and come to the realization that some high up are taking actions that seem quite strange and deserve an explanation. Holgorsen didn't do anything to justify an extension. But....um....Neal Brown won 5 games two years in a row including an fcs and Kansas two years running, soooo......ummm........
Troy was 4-8 in Brown's first year....year three they were 11-2.
WVU was 5-7 in Brown's first year.....he decreased the loss total by three this past season....
Year three....if he decreases the loss total again we will be a 10-win team.
Guy knows how to win bowl games too....a perfect 4-0.
WVU was 5-7 in Brown's first year.....he decreased the loss total by three this past season....
Year three....if he decreases the loss total again we will be a 10-win team.
Guy knows how to win bowl games too....a perfect 4-0.
People can spin 11-11 overall all they want, he dodged a bullet with Oklahoma or he would have been 11-12 more than likely, his offense is one dimensional, he hasn't shown the ability to develop an offensive line.
He has a bottom tier bowl win against a triple option service academy with restrictions on how heavy their players can be, he needed Kendall to bail him out in that game, his play calling and game planning is on a Stewart level, his team's play undisciplined, his team's don't execute.
Great for the Brown crowd! Celebrate and rejoice. Fact. If he wins less than 7 games this season and struggles to do that his seat is on fire.
Lol at any waterhead calling someone a troll who dare question the decision to extend a .500 coach. L
He has a bottom tier bowl win against a triple option service academy with restrictions on how heavy their players can be, he needed Kendall to bail him out in that game, his play calling and game planning is on a Stewart level, his team's play undisciplined, his team's don't execute.
Great for the Brown crowd! Celebrate and rejoice. Fact. If he wins less than 7 games this season and struggles to do that his seat is on fire.
Lol at any waterhead calling someone a troll who dare question the decision to extend a .500 coach. L
It was a win against a team that was missing half its starters
Ohio
North Texas
Buffalo
Army
I would hope he knows how to beat programs of that caliber.
Interesting that he never won a conference championship and that no other P5 programs hired a Wizard like that too.
The truth is Brown is 11-11 at WVU and 46-47 overall as a HC and for some reason WVU extended his contract by 2 years--6 years from now. That is odd to say the least. Especially considering they wouldn't extend the previous coach who was doing much better.
You're just blowing smoke out your ass. How did shane try to sabotage Dana? The fact is until Dana produced a 10 win season he had no leverage. There are many AD's across the country that would have fired him after 2015.
Yeah and WVU was missing key defensive players and offensive linemen. Take your excuse bag and shove it where the sun don't shine.
If Neal Brown wins more than 4 games in year 3 he will be doing better than Dana did
If we would have played Florida State and Maryland he could have been 13-12 and finished with a 7-6 season which was the Dana special.
Not sure people saw what he had to work with the first 2 years. Personally saw extension not happening until next year but I guess they wanted to get ahead of the game. Not sure what the buyout is but if he leaves in December I think it's a little over 5 million.
Assistant coaches salary pool has also been raised to 4 million. Needs to be 5 million in my opinion.
They won't fire him until year 5 if it comes to that. This is when the team will be 100% his recruits and majority will be seniors. Unless some blue blood decides they need some of our players.
You dumbass trolls think WVU should be 11-1 every year are full of crap. If Holgorsen had stayed he would have had back to back a 2-10 season and a 4-8 season.
Sure OU would have been a loss. But Mary and FSU could very well have been wins. Now go cry in your cereal bitch.
WVU nationally averages 6 wins a year since football began for them. WVU has only won 10 games 3 times in regular season since going to 12 games. Those 11 win teams by Rod Fraud were because of Bowl wins. Same For Holgs first season.
8 wins a year is usually the standard for WVU. Use to be WVU couldn't even make a bowl game unless they won 8 to 9 games.
You want to try and do what Texas does and fire a coach every 2 years and you will see the new Kansas of the Big 12.
He gets 5 years in my book.
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NOT. DH won 10 games year 1, won the Big East and crushed Clemson in a major bowl. Year two he moved WVU into a new tougher conference and still won 7 games.
Your math is off.
Except Dana had had a previous 10 win season and a blowout Orange Bowl victory.
Accepting mediocre results year after year is a fool's pursuit. 17 players leaving this year ... having a coach fired because of a player rebellion... turning over "leadership" to a bunch of unloyal 19 year olds... rewarding a coach who is averaging 5.5 wins a season... and having a social justice and inclusion type oversight committee is going to keep WVU closer to Kansas than Oklahoma. Pretty steep hill to climb.
#TROLL Brown inherited an absolute shit show, literally one of the youngest teams in all of D1 with very little talent recruited by previous staff, literally the only impact player was 1..... 1 OL... Year 2 saw one of the most improved teams in all of D1. Recruiting & overall talent levels are taking massive improvements, which Lyons sees where we are headed under Brown, as this better talent are still extremely young, and likely feels future outcomes are positive and warrant securing further time to build into a CONSISTENT program. Frankly this is a brilliant move to lock Brown up now on the cheap, compared to waiting after an 8-10 win season within the next two years... This also further helps Brown & staff recruit. Also, Brown has outperformed ALL WVU projections in both years, hes also beat a ranked team while being unranked. They also won a bowl game, which is more then the previous staff could do..
When you look at the True Fresh & Redshirt Freshmen classes, their upside is higher then any other class DH recruited, esp considering they are consecutive classes, Browns first two classes. It takes time to turn such a garbage program around, which is what DH left after 8 years to "build".. I could very well argue DH actually left the program in worse condition from a talent perspective then when he arrived.
We should be counting our blessings to have a coach like Brown building WVU. If you dont support our coach, then we dont want you... Go support the Herd.. I seriously doubt you're an actual WVU fan anyway... So many trolls here who just want to spread negativity because they see Brown's quality... This is the first time in a very long while WVUFamily is united behind our HC. So go bathe in your own BS, cause that $hit is flushed here..
Brown hasn't proved jackshit here. Cant keep players. Doesnt have control of the team. Revolving door of coaches. WOKE wannabe. Mediocre results and a lot of fans that think the Yugo was a great car.
Some of you guys need to get off the hard stuff and get a life. If you think any coach (that we could attract and afford) is going to come in and make us a conference contender in two or three years, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that you need to consider buying. This is not the old big east of the good old days. Matt Campbell took 5 years at ISU to get them into a playoff. Neal deserves that shot at least. He has done a respectable job to date, and we should get a better idea this year of how far this program has come. I know that no one wants to here this, but DH left the cupboard pretty bare. It appears that Brown has done a good job of restocking but we will see in the next 2 to 3 years. Shane did the right thing. The last thing we need is to start a revolving door of coaches.
Won 9 regular season games. Won Bowl game to finish 10-3. Finished in 3 way tie in Big Least at 5-2 thanks to upsets in the final 2 weeks. He backed into the Orange Bowl. Luckily he had Bill Stewart's team from previous year and was able to dominate Clemson.
Shit head moved nothing in year 2. He went 7-6 with the exact same team he struggled to win 10 with. Still couldn't beat Syracuse. What was he 0-3?
So the Big 12 was a tougher conference when you look at Holgorsen failures than Neal Brown. Interesting. Same old troll double standard.
Only one's leaving and running scared are former Holgorsen players who don't want to work hard. don't see anyone praising mediocre. That is your lame excuse.
With the players that Bill Stewart left him and playing in the Big East. It would have been nice If Dana would Left Geno Tavon and Stedman.
Doubt it we would have more than likely won the FSU game and that would have given us a 7-6 season which was the typical Holgorsen season.
Im talking just about year 3 . So I am going to ask you for the 2nd time If Neal Brown wins more than 4 games and beats Kansas would that be a successful season?
BTW Dana won 10 games with the Players Stewart left. Year 3 is more of a reflection of a coachs team than year 1.
DH won with some players left over and some players he brought in. Brown lost with some players left over from a team that was 3 pts from playing for a BIG 12 title and lots of players he brought in since so many other players left and continue to do so.
Nowhere would a coach that has only won 5 regular season games two years running and had to have a game cancelled so he wouldnt have a losing record and be able to get to a bowl yr two, be considered a success if he wins just more than 4 games yr. 3. The fact someone who claimed anyone could step in and do better than a coach that won 7,8,10 games consistently for years for WVU asks this, while pretending the previous coach didnt win 10 games and a major bowl then 7 wins in a new and tougher conference, is just sad.
Nowhere would a coach that has only won 5 regular season games two years running and had to have a game cancelled so he wouldnt have a losing record and be able to get to a bowl yr two, be considered a success if he wins just more than 4 games yr. 3. The fact someone who claimed anyone could step in and do better than a coach that won 7,8,10 games consistently for years for WVU asks this, while pretending the previous coach didnt win 10 games and a major bowl then 7 wins in a new and tougher conference, is just sad.
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