Biden Told Iran "Don't"

[DvlDog4WVU]

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It’s funny that people don’t understand this.

To be clear, we knew Iran was going to attack. Like, we knew with certainty. Why would he go on vacation? Because they can show the optics of him coming back to handle the problem. You have to understand, everything this administration does is to try and get the optics for polling. They’re also ok with the attacks so long as no one gets killed. Our bases in the Middle East got hit hundreds of times by Iranian backed and funded regimes this winter. The administration played chicken with people’s lives.

Think back to AFG, that whole thing was to try and drive the optics of the speech that was planned for 9/11 exactly 20 years after the towers were attacked. This whole administration is a media driven charade.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

He lost me when he said the college kids watching tictok begging for others to pay for their education knew more than others .

Him listing The Young Turks as someone to listen to was the tell. They’re a long form podcast millennial version of MSNBC. MSNBC is geared towards boomers. They’re Marxist mouthpieces that view everything through the lens of oppressed and oppressor.

Here are facts of today.

There remains over 120 hostages still in possession by Hamas and the Palestinians. 6 months later.

Hamas is an Iranian backed client state.

At any point, Hamas and Palestine could surrender and the violence would end. They started this with their attack on Oct 7th. They targeted civilians, not military. They targeted Jewish settlements. They have to fully capitulate.

Every time a civilian dies in Palestine, it’s a result of Iran and Hamas committing an act of terror and war, unprovoked. Hamas was voted into power by those same civilians and enjoyed 80% approval rating immediately AFTER 10/7 by the Palestinian people.

If you hear anything other than those facts, it’s a narrative being funded and scripted by Iran and Iranian proxies. It’s also propaganda being used to rationalize and justify an unprovoked terror attack. But remember, they don’t care about the civilians, they’re using them as pawns.

 

[Falstaff]

Him listing The Young Turks as someone to listen to was the tell. They’re a long form podcast millennial version of MSNBC. MSNBC is geared towards boomers. They’re Marxist mouthpieces that view everything through the lens of oppressed and oppressor.

Here are facts of today.

There remains over 120 hostages still in possession by Hamas and the Palestinians. 6 months later.

Hamas is an Iranian backed client state.

At any point, Hamas and Palestine could surrender and the violence would end. They started this with their attack on Oct 7th. They targeted civilians, not military. They targeted Jewish settlements. They have to fully capitulate.

Every time a civilian dies in Palestine, it’s a result of Iran and Hamas committing an act of terror and war, unprovoked. Hamas was voted into power by those same civilians and enjoyed 80% approval rating immediately AFTER 10/7 by the Palestinian people.

If you hear anything other than those facts, it’s a narrative being funded and scripted by Iran and Iranian proxies. It’s also propaganda being used to rationalize and justify an unprovoked terror attack. But remember, they don’t care about the civilians, they’re using them as pawns.

Israel leadership has got to be collectively shaking their heads in disbelief.
Not just at the admin, but at us as a nation.

The fact that we've become feckless p*ssies, appeasing Iran has got to be something out of a bad dream.

Telling Israel to take the win????
There had better be something seriously painful coming out of the G7.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Israel leadership has got to be collectively shaking their heads in disbelief.
Not just at the admin, but at us as a nation.

The fact that we've become feckless p*ssies, appeasing Iran has got to be something out of a bad dream.

Telling Israel to take the win????
There had better be something seriously painful coming out of the G7.

Do you know how much money Iran has funneled into the media apparatus and academia?And again into the Obama admin, which are the same people as the Biden admin.

The grift in DC has gotten so bad because they have us so polarized right now. They’re able to steal and get kickbacks almost right in the open. Iran started dumping oodles and oodles of money back in Obama’s admin and it hasn’t stopped.

 

[The Dunedein]

Him listing The Young Turks as someone to listen to was the tell. They’re a long form podcast millennial version of MSNBC. MSNBC is geared towards boomers. They’re Marxist mouthpieces that view everything through the lens of oppressed and oppressor.

Here are facts of today.

There remains over 120 hostages still in possession by Hamas and the Palestinians. 6 months later.

Hamas is an Iranian backed client state.

At any point, Hamas and Palestine could surrender and the violence would end. They started this with their attack on Oct 7th. They targeted civilians, not military. They targeted Jewish settlements. They have to fully capitulate.

Every time a civilian dies in Palestine, it’s a result of Iran and Hamas committing an act of terror and war, unprovoked. Hamas was voted into power by those same civilians and enjoyed 80% approval rating immediately AFTER 10/7 by the Palestinian people.

If you hear anything other than those facts, it’s a narrative being funded and scripted by Iran and Iranian proxies. It’s also propaganda being used to rationalize and justify an unprovoked terror attack. But remember, they don’t care about the civilians, they’re using them as pawns.

Sharp analysis.

On a population-proportionate basis, the Hamas massacre of 1,700 Israelis would be equal to apprx. 61,880 Americans. Mostly women, decapitated babies, and older men. (if my calculation is correct).

That's about the capacity of Mountaineer Field.

We lost 3,000+ Americans in 9/11. Our response? We went halfway around the world and waged war for about 20 years or so. Had an attack been made on America by Hamas, or anyone else, with 60,000 deaths, we would justifiably be merciless in our response.

 

[Gunny46]

Some serious hating of Jews and Christians in this thread. Proving once again Marxism rots people's brains. Iran is working with Communist China. I suggest you all start preparing for all their terrorists that this Administration has allowed across the border.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Sharp analysis.

On a population-proportionate basis, the Hamas massacre of 1,700 Israelis would be equal to apprx. 61,880 Americans. Mostly women, decapitated babies, and older men. (if my calculation is correct).

That's about the capacity of Mountaineer Field.

We lost 3,000+ Americans in 9/11. Our response? We went halfway around the world and waged war for about 20 years or so. Had an attack been made on America by Hamas, or anyone else, with 60,000 deaths, we would justifiably be merciless in our response.

I’ll add another. Japan bombed Pearl and killed roughly 2300 and what was the response to that? How many civilians died with our entering into WW2?

Clearly Iran, the IRGC, and Hamas doesn’t care about the civilians being used as pawns. They knew civilians would be hurt in a response. They count on it. They use it as propaganda. What they didn’t count on, was Israel going total war to force capitulation. If they did, they never would have attacked. Instead of people getting emotional at the very rational response by Israel, they should be up in arms about Iran pushing and playing this game.

And again, if people are concerned about civilian deaths, demand Hamas to release the remaining hostages. Force Hamas to surrender. That ends the pain and suffering. But, they’re watching people like The Young Turks run interference providing tacit rationale and justification for the 10/7 attack. They’re watching all the media be outraged over the civilians being killed and the humanitarian crisis being created. They’re using it as propaganda. If they really cared, they’d lay down an obvious no-win scenario. They’re willing to allow their people to suffer.

It’s just sick to be honest, and why they deserve to be annihilated. They deserve a crushing defeat.

 

[Gunny46]

I’ll add another. Japan bombed Pearl and killed roughly 2300 and what was the response to that? How many civilians died with our entering into WW2?

Clearly Iran, the IRGC, and Hamas doesn’t care about the civilians being used as pawns. They knew civilians would be hurt in a response. They count on it. They use it as propaganda. What they didn’t count on, was Israel going total war to force capitulation. If they did, they never would have attacked. Instead of people getting emotional at the very rational response by Israel, they should be up in arms about Iran pushing and playing this game.

And again, if people are concerned about civilian deaths, demand Hamas to release the remaining hostages. Force Hamas to surrender. That ends the pain and suffering. But, they’re watching people like The Young Turks run interference providing tacit rationale and justification for the 10/7 attack. They’re watching all the media be outraged over the civilians being killed and the humanitarian crisis being created. They’re using it as propaganda. If they really cared, they’d lay down an obvious no-win scenario. They’re willing to allow their people to suffer.

It’s just sick to be honest, and why they deserve to be annihilated. They deserve a crushing defeat.

As much as I hate it we are already at War. People need to wake up to that fact. Several of us have been pointing that out for a few years. It's all connected and it's only going to get worse. This war will not be won by the military alone. The American people will have to wake up and do it together.

They want to destroy the United States and genocide anyone who will not bow. Don't be an useful idiot.

 

[roadtrasheer]

We could use NY Times or CNN to dumb it down for you...

Lmao ..it's the college kids you so highly rely on that didn't have the intelligence to choose a career that could pay for itself or can't manage their finances. Normally I'm pretty good at deciphering the opinion from the facts in most articles but CNN is the master of deception. We agree d.c is a snake pit the most disgusting of people live there and we agree our government (both sides ) is corrupt as hell and has killed many people including our own .

 

[spartansstink]

Some people are so funny...

You can always tell when they are new to learning something. Their arguments are emotional, yet lack logic. They are SOOO sure they are right, because they've "done the research" yet ignore the belief their "research" could be faulty, incomplete, or just downright wrong.

It's like dealing with the typical college student. Know nothing about the matter, get "awakened" to the matter, do some "research" (i.e. watch some Tik Tok videos, etc.) and reading, and suddenly are so sure they are an expert on the matter. Arguments are all based on emotions, logic is to be disregarded wholeheartedly.

Want to argue about a genocide? Roughly 30K out of more than 2 million. That's about 1.5%. Yet, no mention to this point about why there even is an Israel today - 6 million out of roughly 9 million. That's 67%. That was a genocide, not to mention against a people who didn't even attack and kill a group of civilians to bring it on. To add, they have no way of putting a stop to it by turning over hostages or leaders.

They just simply existed - that was all the reason needed.

You might wonder why these people seem to be so paranoid? So constantly pissed off? That reason for their destruction from almost 100 years ago didn't die in an underground bunker back in April of '45. It still exists in the minds of the sons of Ishmael to this day.

I'd say the Jews have a beef.

 

[indyrckstar]

Lmao ..it's the college kids you so highly rely on that didn't have the intelligence to choose a career that could pay for itself or can't manage their finances. Normally I'm pretty good at deciphering the opinion from the facts in most articles but CNN is the master of deception. We agree d.c is a snake pit the most disgusting of people live there and we agree our government (both sides ) is corrupt as hell and has killed many people including our own .

Referencing the college kids are more aware with what's going on than older people. It correlates with Tik Tok banning with younger generation tying the relationship of both.

It's not just CNN. Add Fox, NY Times, etc...

Nobody on here ever mentions AIPAC involvement which either means people have no clue or don't give a F. I figure is the later part given what we have seen on this particular forum. Israel is f'ng one of the most corrupt organizations in the world. Their selling land to previous land demolition, cutting off or limiting food/resources, cutting off any outside media outlets into Gaza, killing women/children/etc... with mass genocide, etc..

That in no way changes what Hamas did on Oct 7th and other previous event. They are guilty as well.

 

[indyrckstar]

Some people are so funny...

You can always tell when they are new to learning something. Their arguments are emotional, yet lack logic. They are SOOO sure they are right, because they've "done the research" yet ignore the belief their "research" could be faulty, incomplete, or just downright wrong.

It's like dealing with the typical college student. Know nothing about the matter, get "awakened" to the matter, do some "research" (i.e. watch some Tik Tok videos, etc.) and reading, and suddenly are so sure they are an expert on the matter. Arguments are all based on emotions, logic is to be disregarded wholeheartedly.

Want to argue about a genocide? Roughly 30K out of more than 2 million. That's about 1.5%. Yet, no mention to this point about why there even is an Israel today - 6 million out of roughly 9 million. That's 67%. That was a genocide, not to mention against a people who didn't even attack and kill a group of civilians to bring it on. To add, they have no way of putting a stop to it by turning over hostages or leaders.

They just simply existed - that was all the reason needed.

You might wonder why these people seem to be so paranoid? So constantly pissed off? That reason for their destruction from almost 100 years ago didn't die in an underground bunker back in April of '45. It still exists in the minds of the sons of Ishmael to this day.

I'd say the Jews have a beef.

Funny take. Is the events occurring today with Palestine genocide or not?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Referencing the college kids are more aware with what's going on than older people. It correlates with Tik Tok banning with younger generation tying the relationship of both.

It's not just CNN. Add Fox, NY Times, etc...

Nobody on here ever mentions AIPAC involvement which either means people have no clue or don't give a F. I figure is the later part given what we have seen on this particular forum. Israel is f'ng one of the most corrupt organizations in the world. Their selling land to previous land demolition, cutting off or limiting food/resources, cutting off any outside media outlets into Gaza, killing women/children/etc... with mass genocide, etc..

That in no way changes what Hamas did on Oct 7th and other previous event. They are guilty as well.

All Palestine/Hamas has to do is give back the 100+ hostages and surrender their remaining combatants. It ends as soon as that happens. Relief will be allowed to flow back in.

It’s really pretty simple.

 

[roadtrasheer]

Referencing the college kids are more aware with what's going on than older people. It correlates with Tik Tok banning with younger generation tying the relationship of both.

It's not just CNN. Add Fox, NY Times, etc... At

Nobody on here ever mentions AIPAC involvement which either means people have no clue or don't give a F. I figure is the later part given what we have seen on this particular forum. Israel is f'ng one of the most corrupt organizations in the world. Their selling land to previous land demolition, cutting off or limiting food/resources, cutting off any outside media outlets into Gaza, killing women/children/etc... with mass genocide, etc..

That in no way changes what Hamas did on Oct 7th and other previous event. They are guilty as well.

On the TikTok matter. No communists country should be doing business in this country. If they make TikTok sell because they are China owned than by all means China must sell all in this country.
Any msm is corrupt.
Our representatives 80% of them is nothing but whores and would sell there souls. Need term limits.
My opinion the dnc and rnc should be blown up . If we can't take out those two evils than we need term limits. Convention of the states is needed .
Hamas is and has always been a terriost organization who from conception has hated the Jewish people the people of Palestine support them . If you support them you are them ...

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Funny take. Is the events occurring today with Palestine genocide or not?

No, we’ve already established that. It’s a result of a war the Palestinians started.

 

[indyrckstar]

All Palestine/Hamas has to do is give back the 100+ hostages and surrender their remaining combatants. It ends as soon as that happens. Relief will be allowed to flow back in.

It’s really pretty simple.

All Israel has to do is remove the prison and release the 1000s of hostages, be held account for genocide, stop doing genocide, etc... Then all is well.

It's really that simple.

 

[indyrckstar]

No, we’ve already established that. It’s a result of a war the Palestinians started.

It's a prison camp with genocide occurring. We have easily established this.

 

[indyrckstar]

Our representatives 80% of them is nothing but whores and would sell there souls. Need term limits.
My opinion the dnc and rnc should be blown up . If we can't take out those two evils than we need term limits. Convention of the states is needed .

Agreed with both parties.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

All Israel has to do is remove the prison and release the 1000s of hostages, be held account for genocide, stop doing genocide, etc... Then all is well.

It's really that simple.

I’m sure that’s what the IRGC and Hamas would like. They’re not in a position to dictate terms, and unfortunately, no one in the Middle East cares enough about the Palestinians to force the conversation. Iran and the IRGC only cares to the point of how it can impact Israel. They don’t care about the people of Palestine, at all. They’re using them for the optics.

It should be telling, even with all that’s going on, other Arab nations were involved in defending Israel this weekend. No one cares.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

It's a prison camp with genocide occurring. We have easily established this.

You can use whatever emotionally charged rhetoric you like. What you can’t do is change the fact that it was started when Palestinian Hamas backed by the IRGC committed an unprovoked act of terror on 10/7, murdering 1700+ innocent women/children, and continues to hold 120+ hostages.

Everything after that is a result of their unprovoked action.

 

[indyrckstar]

I’m sure that’s what the IRGC and Hamas would like. They’re not in a position to dictate terms, and unfortunately, no one in the Middle East cares enough about the Palestinians to force the conversation. Iran and the IRGC only cares to the point of how it can impact Israel. They don’t care about the people of Palestine, at all. They’re using them for the optics.

It should be telling, even with all that’s going on, other Arab nations were involved in defending Israel this weekend. No one cares.

Many of those held hostage at Israel are children and women as well. Lumping all as Hamas is convenient though...

Many countries care about the current situation. Shouldn't view it as needing to Middle East only or requirement of ethnic background with Arabs. Countries from all over the world has already been vociferous. Many have cut off ties including Columbia, Honduras, Chile, Belize, South Africa, Chad, etc...

It's only going to stop when Israel/USA states it as much or other countries join in. Having USA/AIPAC makes it easy to continue as we send billions and billions to them with no accountability. It's the running joke that keeps on going...

 

[indyrckstar]

You can use whatever emotionally charged rhetoric you like. What you can’t do is change the fact that it was started when Palestinian Hamas backed by the IRGC committed an unprovoked act of terror on 10/7, murdering 1700+ innocent women/children, and continues to hold 120+ hostages.

Everything after that is a result of their unprovoked action.

You liked using that word earlier in the thread but apparently, let's use a synonym to satisfy your delusion..

The 1200 that was killed was a combination of civilian and IDF. In either case, it was 100% wrong and should be held accountable. What you struggle with is the current genocide...............I mean, let's call it boo boo attack.

Unprovoked yet living in concentration camp... Got it.

 

[indyrckstar]

Palestine concentration camp -- Before Oct 7th.. Not able to inbound/outbound as a Palestine without IDF control. Limited resources for food, water, utilities, etc... Constantly have IDF solders invade peoples homes with existing family placed in one room (handcuffs or not handcuffs) while they setup base for anywhere from 1 to 3 days. Just because they can... After Oct 7th, IDF/Israel bombs away schools, churches, hospital, etc... with easy scapegoat of oh, "Hamas" was there... Kills volunteer people including media, doctors, etc... Then kills World Central Kitchen point blank. Go watch the video and see what really occurred in that particular event. Continues to shrink concentration camp. Now selling taken land to the outsiders including here in USA. Universal punishment for entire mass. ICJ was near unanimous with Israel's collective punishment and war crimes overall. According to @DvlDog4WVU, no problem. They had it coming... Can't make this shit up....lol

 

[spartansstink]

You liked using that word earlier in the thread but apparently, let's use a synonym to satisfy your delusion..

The 1200 that was killed was a combination of civilian and IDF. In either case, it was 100% wrong and should be held accountable. What you struggle with is the current genocide...............I mean, let's call it boo boo attack.

Unprovoked yet living in concentration camp... Got it.

When you write "held accountable" I have to ask..

WHO should be held accountable?

HOW should they be held into account?

WHEN should they be held accountable?

WHY should they be held accountable?

WHAT if they don't want to be held accountable?

Now, to answer your question from before if it IS a genocide? The answer is no.

A genocide occurs when a group or nation attempts to completely destroy another group or nation without provocation, cause, or some reason that cannot be changed such as race, creed, ethnicity, etc. To kill 1.5% of the population who wants you driven into the sea, who doesn't want nor acknowledge your sovereignty, with cause, is not genocide - that's war and survival.

They are living in this "concentration camp" because they refuse the two-state solution you think they want. They are a conquered people who fought for control and lost. They could leave this "concentration camp" anytime they want - except no other nation, Arab, Jew, nor Gentile - wants them in their country. Wonder why?

Research those answers and let us know. Try it logically without the futile emotional semantics. May make your answers seem less preposterous.

 

[indyrckstar]

When you write "held accountable" I have to ask..

WHO should be held accountable?

HOW should they be held into account?

WHEN should they be held accountable?

WHY should they be held accountable?

WHAT if they don't want to be held accountable?

Now, to answer your question from before if it IS a genocide? The answer is no.

A genocide occurs when a group or nation attempts to completely destroy another group or nation without provocation, cause, or some reason that cannot be changed such as race, creed, ethnicity, etc. To kill 1.5% of the population who wants you driven into the sea, who doesn't want nor acknowledge your sovereignty, with cause, is not genocide - that's war and survival.

They are living in this "concentration camp" because they refuse the two-state solution you think they want. They are a conquered people who fought for control and lost. They could leave this "concentration camp" anytime they want - except no other nation, Arab, Jew, nor Gentile - wants them in their country. Wonder why?

Research those answers and let us know. Try it logically without the futile emotional semantics. May make your answers seem less preposterous.

It is genocide. Even ICJ ruling points to this. You don't need to keep on spinning your point on this part.

Netanyahu is on record for opposing two state solution.

editing....

Did you really just get everything wrong? lol

 

[atlkvb]

All Israel has to do is remove the prison and release the 1000s of hostages, be held account for genocide, stop doing genocide, etc... Then all is well.

It's really that simple.

No the Palestinians and the rest of the Jew hating Arab world need to recognize Israel's right to exist! How can there be a "two State" solution when one side is dedicated to your destruction?

 

[indyrckstar]

No the Palestinians and the rest of the Jew hating Arab world need to recognize Israel's right to exist.

I have no problem with Israel's right to exist.

The problem with you and others is applies to both sides. Should go with two state solution and move on.

You want to do any more bible quotes???

 

[atlkvb]

I have no problem with Israel's right to exist.

The problem with you and others is applies to both sides. Should go with two state solution and move on.

You want to do any more bible quotes???

If you have no problem with a two State" solution, then you're talking about the wrong side. Israel has no problem with it either, and in fact has agreed to it! Who rejects it? the PLO, Iran, Yemen, Syria and the vast majority of the rest of the Shiite Arab world! Go back to what I wrote earlier ITT the other day...if Israel lays down its weapons defending itself...there will be no peace (because those Arabs are sworn to Israel's destruction) If Israel's enemies OTOH lay down their weapons and stop trying to kill all Jews, there will be Peace! Israel doesn't care where or even if Arabs live...Israel just wants to be left alone.

 

[atlkvb]

You want to do any more bible quotes???

I read the Bible everyday Indy. It was written thousands of years before you came along and contains more timeless Wisdom than you've even thought about! You should read it too. When I quote Scripture, it's usually to back up a larger point I'm making. Unfortunately you can't see the point because you reject Almighty God's Holy word. That doesn't invalidate what he's revealed to us through Scripture, it just makes you ignorant of it.

 

[indyrckstar]

If you have no problem with a two State" solution, then you're talking about the wrong side. Israel has no problem with it either, and in fact has agreed to it! Who rejects it? the PLO, Iran, Yemen, Syria and the vast majority of the rest of the Shiite Arab world! Go back to what I wrote earlier ITT the other day...if Israel lays down its weapons defending itself...there will be no peace (because those Arabs are sworn to Israel's destruction) If Israel's enemies OTOH lay down their weapons and stop trying to kill all Jews, there will be Peace! Israel doesn't care where or even if Arabs live...Israel just wants to be left alone.

Netanyahu Restates Opposition to Two-State Solution, Despite Pressure From Biden​

Netanyahu May Be Standing in the Way of a Two-State Solution. But He's Far From Alone​

Netanyahu again rejects Palestinian sovereignty amid fresh US push for two-state solution​

As Gooch would say, go take a lap.

 

[indyrckstar]

I read the Bible everyday Indy. It was written thousands of years before you came along and contains more timeless Wisdom than you've even thought about! You should read it too. When I quote Scripture, it's usually to back up a larger point I'm making. Unfortunately you can't see the point because you reject Almighty God's Holy word. That doesn't invalidate what he's revealed to us through Scripture, it just makes you ignorant of it.

I'm good man. I do find hypocrisy when people want to use religion when it's convenient in pushing a fake agenda. In particular, this thread. That's what made you a clown and deserves to get called out.

 

[atlkvb]

I'm good man. I do find hypocrisy when people want to use religion when it's convenient in pushing a fake agenda. In particular, this thread. That's what made you a clown and deserves to get called out.

There isn't a post in this thread where you aren't either calling someone a name or disparaging folks who simply disagree with you. That's fine, we're all grown ups and we can take it. Just remember that one finger you point at someone else has three turned right back at you Indy!

 

[indyrckstar]

There isn't a post in this thread where you aren't either calling someone a name or disparaging folks who simply disagree with you. That's fine, we're all grown ups and we can take it. Just remember that one finger you point at someone else has three turned right back at you Indy!

You throw insults every post but want to play victim. That's also cute of you....

Go take another lap...

 

[atlkvb]

Netanyahu Restates Opposition to Two-State Solution, Despite Pressure From Biden​

Netanyahu May Be Standing in the Way of a Two-State Solution. But He's Far From Alone​

Netanyahu again rejects Palestinian sovereignty amid fresh US push for two-state solution​

As Gooch would say, go take a lap.

I know you won't answer this because it defeats your argument, but do you know which Arab States both recognize and accept Israel's right to exist and have stated so publicly? If you have an answer just post it for other readers in the thread.

 

[atlkvb]

You throw insults every post but want to play victim. That's also cute of you....

Go take another lap...

Kindly tell me where I've personally insulted you anywhere in this thread? (I do poke fun at you and mock you using silly memes, so if that's considered a personal insult to you sorry I've hurt your feelings), but I don't use personal insults to make points...nor do I call folks names who disagree with me. I try to stay on point, on topic and refute errors with facts.

 

[indyrckstar]

I know you won't answer this because it defeats your argument, but do you know which Arab States both recognize and accept Israel's right to exist and have stated so publicly? If you have an answer just post it for other readers in the thread.

You keep asking questions but avoid mine every time. Now, you want to double down again? I don't mind having a discussion but your fallacy is over the top. I have a few posters today telling me Israel wants two state solution.... Just stop with the bullshit.

 

[indyrckstar]

Kindly tell me where I've personally insulted you anywhere in this thread? (I do poke fun at you and mock you using silly memes, so if that's considered a personal insult to you sorry I've hurt your feelings), but I don't use personal insults to make points...nor do I call folks names who disagree with me. I try to stay on point, on topic and refute errors with facts.

Be honest, did you giggle typing this out?

I giggle every time I do this...

 

[Gunny46]

The only solution Iran and it's proxies are truly interested in is destroying Isarel and killing Jews. Also on their list is Christians and the United States. Some of the post in this thread sound like shit Hitler would have approved of.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Palestine concentration camp -- Before Oct 7th.. Not able to inbound/outbound as a Palestine without IDF control. Limited resources for food, water, utilities, etc... Constantly have IDF solders invade peoples homes with existing family placed in one room (handcuffs or not handcuffs) while they setup base for anywhere from 1 to 3 days. Just because they can... After Oct 7th, IDF/Israel bombs away schools, churches, hospital, etc... with easy scapegoat of oh, "Hamas" was there... Kills volunteer people including media, doctors, etc... Then kills World Central Kitchen point blank. Go watch the video and see what really occurred in that particular event. Continues to shrink concentration camp. Now selling taken land to the outsiders including here in USA. Universal punishment for entire mass. ICJ was near unanimous with Israel's collective punishment and war crimes overall. According to @DvlDog4WVU, no problem. They had it coming... Can't make this shit up....lol

Hamas embedding within the civilian populace (that voted them into power) as an attempted defense mechanism, putting those people’s lives at risk?

/clutches my pearls!!!

Back to my point about the people really responsible not actually caring about the people you’re menstrating over. I’m very familiar with how and why civilians die. I one time watched a father use his under 7 son and daughter as well as his wife as human shields while he fired at Americans. I also watched as all 4 of them got stitched up by 7.62.

You’re not breaking new ground here, Bubba. This is the war that we’ve been fighting for the last 20+ years. You’re just leaving out the part where Al Jazeera films it or some jihad Joe is filming it and making YouTube recruiting videos for propaganda.

It’s what I’m trying to tell you. The same people who thrust their populace into this hell are the same people who use that hell to further radicalize. Hamas and the IRGC want these optics. They want their people to suffer. They do not care.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

It is genocide. Even ICJ ruling points to this. You don't need to keep on spinning your point on this part.

Netanyahu is on record for opposing two state solution.

editing....

Did you really just get everything wrong? lol

The ICJ, hahahahahahhaha

Did the UNs Human Right’s Council weigh in as well? Maybe they can write a really sternly worded email!!!!

Maybe you’re youthful, maybe you’ve been ignorant to these things during adulthood. Let me draw an analogy, the UN and ICJ are basically the NCAA. No one really gives a fvck. China sits on the Human Rights Council. China. Hahahhahahaha