Biden Told Iran "Don't"

[atlkvb]

So I went back through the thread looking for all of your personal insults, put downs, disparaging, condescending and disrespectful name calling. You're invited to post similar for me, but regarding who's the protagonist ITT and simply can't make his points absent pejorative, self promoting, pompous, high brow attitudinal protesting and stomping...uh... that'd be none other @indyrckstar ...in his own words:

Your experience of killing people makes you an expert of Israel vs Palestine? That's cute...

We both agreed that you enjoy killing.

You enjoy Palestine killing, correct?

How many children did you kill?

I actually respect your hypocrisy.

You like killing and then it makes you laugh about it.

Brainwashed as you have enjoyed killing with ummmm... accidental children/babies since they are Hamas..

I like your tunnel vision approach. Well done.

Enjoyed your honesty with killing, wanting genocide, and you playing the cute game of not thinking Israel/IDF is as much terrorist as Hamas.

You're welcome to keep making more dumbass posts when you get back.

We could use NY Times or CNN to dumb it down for you..

Dave is the dumbest guy in every room.

I was waiting for you puppet.

Is this from your fake Bible again or real Bible this time? We want to know...

let's make fun of your fake Bible....

That's what made you a clown

 

[atlkvb]

I giggle every time I do this...

Your attempts to mock the very Salvation we Christians rely on doesn't phase me in the least Indy. The "fake" Bible you scoff at or mock says EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS THE NAME OF CHRIST. My Salvation both rests on and is dependent on the authenticity of Christ's shed blood at Calvary and his resurrection from death for the remission of Sin for everlasting Life. It's as real to me as Life itself. If you think that's "fake" or chose to make fun of it as something "not real" that's fine. Your Salvation (or lack of it) rests on the very same thing!

 

[indyrckstar]

Hamas embedding within the civilian populace (that voted them into power) as an attempted defense mechanism, putting those people’s lives at risk?

/clutches my pearls!!!

Back to my point about the people really responsible not actually caring about the people you’re menstrating over. I’m very familiar with how and why civilians die. I one time watched a father use his under 7 son and daughter as well as his wife as human shields while he fired at Americans. I also watched as all 4 of them got stitched up by 7.62.

You’re not breaking new ground here, Bubba. This is the war that we’ve been fighting for the last 20+ years. You’re just leaving out the part where Al Jazeera films it or some jihad Joe is filming it and making YouTube recruiting videos for propaganda.

It’s what I’m trying to tell you. The same people who thrust their populace into this hell are the same people who use that hell to further radicalize. Hamas and the IRGC want these optics. They want their people to suffer. They do not care.

Al Jazeera films or some youtuber, huh? Meanwhile, Israel admitted to it.

IDF Chief Apologizes for 'Unintentional Killing' of World Central Kitchen Aid Workers​

You haven't watched the video obviously or you are not a real military person with able to tell the difference.

 

[indyrckstar]

The ICJ, hahahahahahhaha

Did the UNs Human Right’s Council weigh in as well? Maybe they can write a really sternly worded email!!!!

Maybe you’re youthful, maybe you’ve been ignorant to these things during adulthood. Let me draw an analogy, the UN and ICJ are basically the NCAA. No one really gives a fvck. China sits on the Human Rights Council. China. Hahahhahahaha

Lol

I do love your responses.

 

[indyrckstar]

So I went back through the thread looking for all of your personal insults, put downs, disparaging, condescending and disrespectful name calling. You're invited to post similar for me, but regarding who's the protagonist ITT and simply can't make his points absent pejorative, self promoting, pompous, high brow attitudinal protesting and stomping...uh... that'd be none other @indyrckstar ...in his own words:

Oh my gawd!!!!

hahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahaahah

 

[indyrckstar]

ICJ rules doesn't coincide with @DvlDog4WVU viewpoint. Another fake news....

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Al Jazeera films or some youtuber, huh? Meanwhile, Israel admitted to it.

IDF Chief Apologizes for 'Unintentional Killing' of World Central Kitchen Aid Workers​

You haven't watched the video obviously or you are not a real military person with able to tell the difference.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. I didn’t say this didn’t happen. There is a term, “fog of war”. This kind of stuff happens, all too frequently. Do you know how many civilians were killed in Predator strikes? You try to minimize collateral damage, but in war, a lot of innocent people die. That’s why you shouldn’t start one, especially if you have no chance of winning. Further, if you actually cared about your own people, you wouldn’t use them as human shields, hiding in schools, hospitals and mosques. But, sadly, these are common tactics.

Halevi said that the attack was "a mistake that followed a misidentification - at night during a war in very complex conditions. It shouldn't have happened," he added.

Again, you’re not educating me. Wouldn’t it have been great if Palestine/Hamas hadn’t initiated this war they had no hope of winning? And then none of this collateral damage, like those aid workers being killed was occurring?

Listen, Pre-10/7, I’d be a hell of a lot more sympathetic and was sympathetic to Palestine. Post-10/7? I believe Israel is within its rights to play it to the conclusion, and that being Hamas is obliterated or Hamas completely capitulates, and all the hostages are returned. Until that happens, they’re getting what they started. They can quit at anytime and aid will flow in.

 

[indyrckstar]

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. I didn’t say this didn’t happen. There is a term, “fog of war”. This kind of stuff happens, all too frequently. Do you know how many civilians were killed in Predator strikes? You try to minimize collateral damage, but in war, a lot of innocent people die. That’s why you shouldn’t start one, especially if you have no chance of winning. Further, if you actually cared about your own people, you wouldn’t use them as human shields, hiding in schools, hospitals and mosques. But, sadly, these are common tactics.

Halevi said that the attack was "a mistake that followed a misidentification - at night during a war in very complex conditions. It shouldn't have happened," he added.

Again, you’re not educating me. Wouldn’t it have been great if Palestine/Hamas hadn’t initiated this war they had no hope of winning? And then none of this collateral damage, like those aid workers being killed was occurring?

Listen, Pre-10/7, I’d be a hell of a lot more sympathetic and was sympathetic to Palestine. Post-10/7? I believe Israel is within its rights to play it to the conclusion, and that being Hamas is obliterated or Hamas completely capitulates, and all the hostages are returned. Until that happens, they’re getting what they started. They can quit at anytime and aid will flow in.

You didn't watch the video. So now you are placing filler to what you think happened and that it occurs often... Got it.

You keep thinking it's only about Oct 7th. The concentration camp was before, during, and after. What Hamas has done is obviously wrong. Your favorite word, genocide, is going on currently. It's clear you are tunnel vision with it and that's fine. Just stop pretending you think it's always been one sided. Makes everyone here dumber including yourself..

 

[cam_blev]

I think all parties involved should review these here and make a statement of who they believe is allowed to not follow them

https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/war-crimes/what-is-a-war-crime/

 

[Gunny46]

I think all parties involved should review these here and make a statement of who they believe is allowed to not follow them

https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/war-crimes/what-is-a-war-crime/

Hamas definitely committed war crimes. Now they should surrender. Maybe the Palestinians should rise up against them? Let us know when that happens. Until then people should stop making excuses for them. They would cut your head off today if it assisted in their Jihad. Their ideology isn't rational. You can't reason with them.

 

[WVU82]

 

[cam_blev]

Hamas definitely committed war crimes. Now they should surrender. Maybe the Palestinians should rise up against them? Let us know when that happens. Until then people should stop making excuses for them. They would cut your head off today if it assisted in their Jihad. Their ideology isn't rational. You can't reason with them.

So has the US and many of their allies and they can't harm me as I am on the other side of the world. I am not afraid them and never could be enough to call for the mass murder of innocent women and children.

 

[indyrckstar]

US has been a definite part of the problem. Their unbreakable AIPAC funding to Israel has been quite impressive.


It's hilarious watching John Kirby dance around questions to basically say the same no answer to every question. His clown, along with Biden, and every other politician should get called out. (the one wanting to send weapons/money)

 

[Gunny46]

So has the US and many of their allies and they can't harm me as I am on the other side of the world. I am not afraid them and never could be enough to call for the mass murder of innocent women and children.

That's just stupid. They can and definitely reach you here and it wouldn't be the first time. You and Indy are the same idiot that lives in a world that doesn't exist.

 

[indyrckstar]

That's just stupid. They can and definitely reach you here and it wouldn't be the first time. You and Indy are the same idiot that lives in a world that doesn't exist.

I am going to agree and see how stupid you are with the next response....

Only because you have shown quite a bit of stupidity on the Premium board.. Remember that time I agreed with you and how confused you got?

 

[SoCo]

So has the US and many of their allies and they can't harm me as I am on the other side of the world. I am not afraid them and never could be enough to call for the mass murder of innocent women and children.

Isn't the mass murder of women and children on 10/7 what ignited this mess? They and those that shelter them should be dealt with accordingly.

Like everything else in the world, there is enough blame between both sides, as well as a lot of third parties, to go around. I have always seen Israel as the little child poking the dog with a stick because big brother (the US) is standing behind him to kick the shit out of the dog if it reacts. But Devil is right, 10/7 changed the ballgame.

The easy answer is simply to release the hostages, you know ... the women and children you seem so concerned about. They won't. Game on. Civilians die in war. It sucks but that is the way it is.

 

[Gunny46]

I am going to agree and see how stupid you are with the next response....

Only because you have shown quite a bit of stupidity on the Premium board.. Remember that time I agreed with you and how confused you got?

You're an idiot that needs to find another subject to discuss. This one is way too complicated for you.

 

[indyrckstar]

Watching the watchdogs: Babies and truth die together in Israel-Palestine​

Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were beheaded in Hamas attack​

Baseless claim that Israeli media probe found no babies beheaded by Hamas | Fact check​

The fake lies about beheaded babies from Israel...

 

[indyrckstar]

You're an idiot that needs to find another subject to discuss. This one is way too complicated for you.

I agree that you are going to get really angry and already confused.

Let your stoooooopidness flow....

 

[indyrckstar]

@Gunny46

Still mad that I agreed with ya, huh? Too complicated...

 

[spartansstink]

It is genocide. Even ICJ ruling points to this. You don't need to keep on spinning your point on this part.

Netanyahu is on record for opposing two state solution.

editing....

Did you really just get everything wrong? lol

So, your answer to my response is the International Court of Justice. Not even a paper tiger, really a paper doll. Their opinion holds the same weight as yours and mine.

Still, you didn't answer the pertinent questions:

When you write "they (Hamas) should be held accountable" it has to be asked and answered:

WHO should be held accountable?

WHO should hold them accountable?

HOW should they be held into account?

WHEN should they be held accountable?

WHY should they be held accountable?

WHAT if they don't want to be held accountable?

If you have a better solution to the questions above, let's see it.

I bet you don't. You can't answer them without losing the moral high ground you are so desperately failing to maintain. You've done the research, this should be easy for you.

 

[Gunny46]

@Gunny46

Still mad that I agreed with ya, huh? Too complicated...

You posted alot of stupid shit in this thread. No reason to get upset. People can just read it and see how ignorant you are. Nazi Gooch is the only idiot that reads the board that will probably agree with the nonsense you have posted though.

 

[indyrckstar]

So, your answer to my response is the International Court of Justice. Not even a paper tiger, really a paper doll. Their opinion holds the same weight as yours and mine.

Still, you didn't answer the pertinent questions:

When you write "they (Hamas) should be held accountable" it has to be asked and answered:

WHO should be held accountable?

WHO should hold them accountable?

HOW should they be held into account?

WHEN should they be held accountable?

WHY should they be held accountable?

WHAT if they don't want to be held accountable?

If you have a better solution to the questions above, let's see it.

I bet you don't. You can't answer them without losing the moral high ground you are so desperately failing to maintain. You've done the research, this should be easy for you.

I bet you right ....

Buddy, you failed big time with getting everything wrong earlier. You didn't even own up to it. Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[indyrckstar]

You posted alot of stupid shit in this thread. No reason to get upset. People can just read it and see how ignorant you are. Nazi Gooch is the only idiot that reads the board that will probably agree with the nonsense you have posted though.

I agreed that you get confused a lot on message boards. Also agreed that you upset and wanted to share. Thank you...

 

[spartansstink]

I bet you right ....

Buddy, you failed big time with getting everything wrong earlier. You didn't even own up to it. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Nice try at deflection. You can't answer them, right?

Prove I'm wrong and I'll admit to it. I'm open to corrective criticism...

 

[indyrckstar]

Nice try at deflection. You can't answer them, right?

Prove I'm wrong and I'll admit to it. I'm open to corrective criticism...

Sure, let's go with that and of course, I didn't take time to read them.

I bet if you /bump up again, there might be a different response...

 

[spartansstink]

You lose. Thanks for playing.

 

[indyrckstar]

You lose. Thanks for playing.

Oh no!!!!!!

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Watching the watchdogs: Babies and truth die together in Israel-Palestine​

Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were beheaded in Hamas attack​

Baseless claim that Israeli media probe found no babies beheaded by Hamas | Fact check​

The fake lies about beheaded babies from Israel...

By the way, you should really check out the Rogan podcast with Coleman Hughes, since you cited it as Rogan agreeing there was genocide.

Listen from about 1:46 to 2:15. A good solid 30 minutes on the topic and basically stating everything I’ve been saying. Even goes to explain for Urban combat, the number of civilians dying isn’t even that high, and that’s with Hamas intentionally using them as shields. That also is a war crime by the way, as is converting mosques, schools, and hospitals into military installations, and by definition, those installations are allowed to be treated as military targets by the rules of armed conflict.

I mean, you can look it up.

 

[indyrckstar]

By the way, you should really check out the Rogan podcast with Coleman Hughes, since you cited it as Rogan agreeing there was genocide.

Listen from about 1:46 to 2:15. A good solid 30 minutes on the topic and basically stating everything I’ve been saying. Even goes to explain for Urban combat, the number of civilians dying isn’t even that high, and that’s with Hamas intentionally using them as shields. That also is a war crime by the way, as is converting mosques, schools, and hospitals into military installations, and by definition, those installations are allowed to be treated as military targets by the rules of armed conflict.

I mean, you can look it up.

Perhaps. I listen to Joe Rogan's on YT quite a bit. Enjoy his MMA podcast mostly.

 

[cam_blev]

That's just stupid. They can and definitely reach you here and it wouldn't be the first time. You and Indy are the same idiot that lives in a world that doesn't exist.

Ahh... "If we don't fight them over there they're gonna come get us over here!"
Fear mongering, the tool of authoritarians to get the people to give up their freedoms

Isn't the mass murder of women and children on 10/7 what ignited this mess? They and those that shelter them should be dealt with accordingly.

Like everything else in the world, there is enough blame between both sides, as well as a lot of third parties, to go around. I have always seen Israel as the little child poking the dog with a stick because big brother (the US) is standing behind him to kick the shit out of the dog if it reacts. But Devil is right, 10/7 changed the ballgame.

The easy answer is simply to release the hostages, you know ... the women and children you seem so concerned about. They won't. Game on. Civilians die in war. It sucks but that is the way it is.

so the correct response is to print money making inflation and the lives of Americans worse for us to help our "buddies" do the same to them?

PRINTING MONEY FOR ENDLESS WAR HAS 10000000000x more to do with our inflation problems than Joe Biden but ya know gotta fund that military industrial complex (how many arguing here would lose their paychecks if not?)

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world."
-George Washington, Mount Vernon 9/19/1796

but you know who cares what this country was supposed to be founded on or about the ideas of the founding fathers right?

 

[Gunny46]

I bet you right ....

Buddy, you failed big time with getting everything wrong earlier. You didn't even own up to it. Stop embarrassing yourself.

You posted alot of stupid shit in this thread. Definitely more stupid than you normally do. You definitely need to find a new topic. This one is kicking your ass.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Ahh... "If we don't fight them over there they're gonna come get us over here!"
Fear mongering, the tool of authoritarians to get the people to give up their freedoms


so the correct response is to print money making inflation and the lives of Americans worse for us to help our "buddies" do the same to them?

PRINTING MONEY FOR ENDLESS WAR HAS 10000000000x more to do with our inflation problems than Joe Biden but ya know gotta fund that military industrial complex

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world."
-George Washinton, Mount Vernon 9/19/96

but you know who cares what this country was supposed to be founded on or about the ideas of the founding fathers right?

Oh FFS, save us from your BitCoin fiat currency horseshit. We get it, you just discovered Ron Paul and you think the rest of us weren’t paying attention in the mid-2000s.

 

[indyrckstar]

You posted alot of stupid shit in this thread. Definitely more stupid than you normally do. You definitely need to find a new topic. This one is kicking your ass.

You are so mad right now...

Does this reply make you want to agree with me yet?

 

[Gunny46]

Ahh... "If we don't fight them over there they're gonna come get us over here!"
Fear mongering, the tool of authoritarians to get the people to give up their freedoms


so the correct response is to print money making inflation and the lives of Americans worse for us to help our "buddies" do the same to them?

PRINTING MONEY FOR ENDLESS WAR HAS 10000000000x more to do with our inflation problems than Joe Biden but ya know gotta fund that military industrial complex

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world."
-George Washinton, Mount Vernon 9/19/96

but you know who cares what this country was supposed to be founded on or about the ideas of the founding fathers right?

The,y are already here goofball. We definitely need to take care of alot of stuff here before jumping into WW3. However bombing Iran Leadership would definitely slow alot of this nonsense down. Biden won't do it because he doesn't want to piss off voters in Michigan and Minnesota.

 

[Gunny46]

You are so mad right now...

Does this reply make you want to agree with me yet?

I'm definitely not mad. I'm also not the one defending Islamic Jihadist and Nazism right now. Congratulations on your new level of stupidity though.

 

[atlkvb]

You keep asking questions but avoid mine every time. Now, you want to double down again? I don't mind having a discussion but your fallacy is over the top. I have a few posters today telling me Israel wants two state solution.... Just stop with the bullshit.

The first post I made in this thread was a question you couldn't/didn't answer. You can't demand what you're not first providing. You don't/can't answer questions that obviously defeat your positions. So as a dodging tactic, you throw out unrelated questions then demand answers to those before first responding to the questions that expose your faulty positions or errors.

You've been pointing the finger at Israel throughout the thread. Yet you refuse to answer:

Who does that land belong to?

Where in history did the Nation of Palestine ever exist and what was its Capitol? You can't expect answers to your questions while you avoid answering that which is at the heart of the dispute.

 

[cam_blev]

Oh FFS, save us from your BitCoin fiat currency horseshit. We get it, you just discovered Ron Paul and you think the rest of us weren’t paying attention in the mid-2000s.

For **** sakes if anybody were paying attention maybe we wouldn't be in this shitty position as a country that that we are in!

So what else were the founding fathers wrong about? 1st amendment? 2nd? 4th? Thanks for the Patriot Act!

 

[indyrckstar]

I'm definitely not mad. I'm also not the one defending Islamic Jihadist and Nazism right now. Congratulations on your new level of stupidity though.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how mad are you after rounding up from 9?

 

[indyrckstar]

The first post I made in this thread was a question you couldn't/didn't answer. You can't demand what you're not first providing. You don't/can't answer questions that obviously defeat your positions. So as a dodging tactic, you throw out unrelated questions then demand answers to those before first responding to the questions that expose your faulty positions or errors.

You've been pointing the finger at Israel throughout the thread. Yet you refuse to answer:

Who does that land belong to?

Where in history did the Nation of Palestine ever exist and what was its Capitol? You can't expect answers to your questions while you avoid answering that which is at the heart of the dispute.

The capital of Israel is still Jerusalem.