MAGA gets slapped again

[Gunny46]

What is single most important issue to you when deciding who to vote for in 2024 Presidential Election?
1. The Economy: 41%
2. Immigration: 9%
3. Democracy: 8%
4. SSA and Medicare: 7%
5. Healthcare: 6%
6. Abortion: 5%
7. Climate change: 4%
8. Guns: 4%
9. Crime 3%
10. Israel/Hamas war 3%

 

[Gunny46]

Abortion
Biden 40%
Trump 36%

 

[Gunny46]

‘Jumbled mess’: The Bidenomics brand leaves nearly everyone — including Biden — baffled

At the beginning, the president was reluctant to embrace the term, but he continues to make his economic policies central to his re-election pitch.

www.google.com

No one seems to like “Bidenomics,” the eponymous shorthand for Joe Biden’s economic policies — not voters, not Democratic officials, not even, at times, the president himself.

Jumbled mess’: The Bidenomics brand leaves nearly everyone — including Biden — baffled​

At the beginning, the president was reluctant to embrace the term, but he continues to make his economic policies central to his re-election pitch.

 

[Gunny46]

High prices expose the truth about Bidenomics

Joe Biden is campaigning on an economic platform — big government, big spending and Big Labor – that isn’t working for the American people. He seems to be the only one who doesn’t know it. …

www.google.com

How foolish is it to put your name on an unpopular policy? That’s what Joe Biden insists on doing, taking personal ownership of an economy that voters detest.

And the polls are brutal. The article cites a Bloomberg/Morning Consult survey from last month in which “Only 35% of voters in seven swing states trust Biden on the economy […] with 51% saying it was better under Donald Trump.”

 

[roadtrasheer]

If you’re talking about 20 weeks then over 60% of the US agree, and that means it’s more than just Dems

Instead of debating abortions in capital's around the country they need to be debating when life begins. Then the debate will go away . People keep trying to make people who don't believe in accountability do the right thing ..won't happen

 

[moe]

 

[atlkvb]

1OO% of Leftists LIE. You all can't tell the Truth about anything...even when you know it!

Example: Did Trump "collude" with Russians to steal the '16 election? YOU and the rest of the Left all lied and said he did. We now know he did not! Yet neither YOU nor anyone else on the Left can honestly answer "no" he did not to the Truth of that question!

See what I mean? You made up the lie, and you can't even admit to the Truth.

Point made, point proven.

 

[atlkvb]

Attn all Lawyers on this board...if @moe is ever indicted, don't bother representing him, just assume he's guilty and don't even bother with a trial either. 😏

@moe

What makes you think they'd ever catch me to indict?

Maybe they wouldn't you 'ol slippery weasel...but if they did your presumption of innocence is hereby forfeited!

 

[ThePunish-EER]

99.9% number of Americans not indicted for fake crimes

Attn all Lawyers on this board...if @moe is ever indicted, don't bother representing him, just assume he's guilty and don't even bother with a trial either. 😏

@moe

What makes you think they'd ever catch me to indict?

Maybe they wouldn't you 'ol slippery weasel...but if they did your presumption of innocence is hereby forfeited!

Yes, it’s the “rule of law”. I learned this from msm.

 

[NYC_Eer]

Instead of debating abortions in capital's around the country they need to be debating when life begins. Then the debate will go away . People keep trying to make people who don't believe in accountability do the right thing ..won't happen

60% of the US believe in not being held accountable apparently. So, again it’s a losing issue.

 

[roadtrasheer]

60% of the US believe in not being held accountable apparently. So, again it’s a losing issue.

You are absolutely correct. 60% and I'd say even more than that don't want to be held accountable for there own actions.... you don't find that disgusting ? Leave abortion out of it .... it still the same problem, people don't want to be held accountable for there own actions and choices. They want government to pay for needs so they can get all the trinkets and wants .

 

[NYC_Eer]

You are absolutely correct. 60% and I'd say even more than that don't want to be held accountable for there own actions.... you don't find that disgusting ? Leave abortion out of it .... it still the same problem, people don't want to be held accountable for there own actions and choices. They want government to pay for needs so they can get all the trinkets and wants .

Doesn’t matter what I think. That is the reality.

 

[Airport]

Doesn’t matter what I think. That is the reality.

We need to take the extra homicide charge for killing a woman and her baby since it's now important to the vast majority of women.

 

[roadtrasheer]

Doesn’t matter what I think. That is the reality.

I'm not arguing the facts that at least 60% of Americans don't want to be accountable for there own actions and can't handle the consequences of free choice. That's why so many are wanting socialism. That's why they are begging for government assistance in every way possible. They don't want to be held accountable for there actions and choice. Abortion is a product of this .
Getting pregnant, unless rape, is a choice. So we agree 60% of us are useless bags of shit

 

[NYC_Eer]

I'm not arguing the facts that at least 60% of Americans don't want to be accountable for there own actions and can't handle the consequences of free choice. That's why so many are wanting socialism. That's why they are begging for government assistance in every way possible. They don't want to be held accountable for there actions and choice. Abortion is a product of this .
Getting pregnant, unless rape, is a choice. So we agree 60% of us are useless bags of shit

I wouldn’t say that. Many people are religious and don’t think the way you do.

 

[spartansstink]

How right you are about them being "religious"...

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2nd Timothy 3:5-7

 

[atlkvb]

People are always surprised by the direct consequences resulting from their own actions. I've always told my kids, there are never NO CONSEQUENCES to your decisions, so use wisely your power of choice. You're going to have to deal with the consequences of each and every decision you make. Few of us ever learn that and as a nation we're paying for it.

 

[atlkvb]

How right you are about them being "religious"...

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2nd Timothy 3:5-7

The Bible is simply amazing in its Wisdom and sobering in its prescience of the Human Spirit.

 

[roadtrasheer]

I wouldn’t say that. Many people are religious and don’t think the way you do.

Religion has nothing to do with our discussion. Abortion is a reaction to a choice a bad choice and a baby has to pay for it . At what point did we say we could murder to cover our mistakes? Saying it's not murder to Abort but it's murder × 2 if you kill a pregnant woman. If 60% believes this way we are in deep shit . I believe in a woman's choice to use or not use birth control or even the plan b pill the morning after .... and there is plenty, plenty of choices a woman or man can make

 

[NYC_Eer]

Religion has nothing to do with our discussion. Abortion is a reaction to a choice a bad choice and a baby has to pay for it . At what point did we say we could murder to cover our mistakes? Saying it's not murder to Abort but it's murder × 2 if you kill a pregnant woman. If 60% believes this way we are in deep shit . I believe in a woman's choice to use or not use birth control or even the plan b pill the morning after .... and there is plenty, plenty of choices a woman or man can make

Of course it’s about religion. The super religious are the ones driving this. And it’s not only hurting Reps, but also driving people away from the church…the Catholic Church in particular.

Most of the other Catholics I know don’t go to church more often or at all, because of the churches views on a number of issues and in particular this one. They shove it down everyone’s throats in church.

So, pushing the anti-abortion agenda is both losing Reps votes and butts in seats at church.

 

[atlkvb]

Most of the other Catholics I know don’t go to church more often or at all, because of the churches views on a number of issues and in particular this one. They shove it down everyone’s throats in church.

With all respect, folks attending Worship services regardless of Religion do so to Praise their Creator and fellowship with like minded believers.

Folks regularly attending Church don't go there to have "Religion" or beliefs "shoved down their throats". They already know what they believe and they go to Church to have their beliefs confirmed and celebrated not "forced" onto them.

In a free society no one is "forced" to believe or attend Worship services. The folks who both believe in and Love Almighty God enough to believe in & Worship his influence in their lives ARE NOT out there demonstrating their Love & Worship by killing their innocent unborn children!

Believers who are "Super Religious" are the ones speaking out against that Evil.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Biden continues his destruction of America as Moe worries about MAGA.

 

[Gunny46]

Biden continues his destruction of America as Moe worries about MAGA.

Yes they are freaking out. All he is doing is what Obama and every President before him has done. The guy is a former Democrat and Moderate. Yet they were not willing to work with him on something as simple as securing the border or ending wars. Now we have two and are approaching a third.







Well Mitch he tried to work with the Democrat/Progressives. But apparently they weren't having it because destroying the country was more important.

 

[atlkvb]

pushing the anti-abortion agenda is both losing Reps votes and butts in seats at church.

Folks who support abortion are "lost". The proof is how very few of them ever admit they are in fact killing an innocent baby. They will call it anything and everything else except murder which is killing an innocent human being!

It is impossible to be anything else because there is no abortion unless a baby is killed.

 

[Gunny46]

Yes they are freaking out. All he is doing is what Obama and every President before him has done. The guy is a former Democrat and Moderate. Yet they were not willing to work with him on something as simple as securing the border or ending wars. Now we have two and are approaching a third.

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Well Mitch he tried to work with the Democrat/Progressives. But apparently they weren't having it because destroying the country was more important.

2018 Many MSM articles with Headlines like this.

This Isn't a Border Wall: It's a Monument to White Supremacy

Like Confederate monuments, President Trump’s vision of a massive wall along the Mexican border is about propaganda and racial oppression, not national security.

www.bloomberg.com

This Isn't a Border Wall: It's a Monument to White Supremacy​

Like Confederate monuments, President Trump’s vision of a massive wall along the Mexican border is about propaganda and racial oppression, not national security.

No you idiots. It's about National Security and not letting MAM from foreign adversaries into the country.



Or bring idiots like this in who hates all Americans regardless of race too. Great job London.

 

[Gunny46]

But at least you can have abortion without any common sense restrictions.

Six Reasons Why a US Recession Is Likely — and Coming Soon

When everyone expects a soft landing, brace for impact.

www.bloomberg.com

Why a US Recession Is Still Likely — and Coming Soon​

 

[NYC_Eer]

With all respect, folks attending Worship services regardless of Religion do so to Praise their Creator and fellowship with like minded believers.

Folks regularly attending Church don't go there to have "Religion" or beliefs "shoved down their throats". They already know what they believe and they go to Church to have their beliefs confirmed and celebrated not "forced" onto them.

In a free society no one is "forced" to believe or attend Worship services. The folks who both believe in and Love Almighty God enough to believe in & Worship his influence in their lives ARE NOT out there demonstrating their Love & Worship by killing their innocent unborn children!

Believers who are "Super Religious" are the ones speaking out against that Evil.

Yeah...beliefs formed a 1000 years ago will never change. See how many empty seats are in churches these days. Keep up w/ the old school stuff and see how long the churches last. Our priest keeps begging for money and kids to be priests, because no one comes and no one is getting ordained. Its a dying organization, because they refuse to change.

Y'all will be sharing your fairy tales in your living rooms pretty soon...or maybe a public park with the weather is nice.

 

[NYC_Eer]

Folks who support abortion are "lost". The proof is how very few of them ever admit they are in fact killing an innocent baby. They will call it anything and everything else except murder which is killing an innocent human being!

It is impossible to be anything else because there is no abortion unless a baby is killed.

Well, you're ****ed, because more and more people believe in it. And no one other than the super Christ-y call it murder. Ask your boy Trump. He's probably an expert. I'm sure he's have plenty of experience with it. Probably why he knows its a losing issue.

 

[Gunny46]

So no bringing things vital to National Security home? Cool let me know how that works out when Covid 30 gets out.

Yellen: US Does Not Seek to Decouple Economy From China

US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen speaks at a news conference about the state of US-China relations after meeting with Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng. (Source: Bloomberg)

www.bloomberg.com

Yellen: US Does Not Seek to Decouple Economy From China​

 

[Gunny46]

Yeah...beliefs formed a 1000 years ago will never change. See how many empty seats are in churches these days. Keep up w/ the old school stuff and see how long the churches last. Our priest keeps begging for money and kids to be priests, because no one comes and no one is getting ordained. Its a dying organization, because they refuse to change.

Y'all will be sharing your fairy tales in your living rooms pretty soon...or maybe a public park with the weather is nice.

From the 45 goals of Communism.


Several religions have been infiltrated. Your religion is Marxism.


27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

 

[Gunny46]

Well, you're ****ed, because more and more people believe in it. And no one other than the super Christ-y call it murder. Ask your boy Trump. He's probably an expert. I'm sure he's have plenty of experience with it. Probably why he knows its a losing issue.

Look at you trying to appeal to Conservatives that Trump isn't Conservative enough when he supported their cause to at least find some middle ground. They can vote for Trump and be happy with the wins they have gotten so far while continuing to educate or they can lose all ground on the subject.

 

[atlkvb]

Well, you're ****ed, because more and more people believe in it. And no one other than the super Christ-y call it murder. Ask your boy Trump. He's probably an expert.

Trump said he changed his mind about abortion once he learned it was killing an innocent baby.

Tell me. Do you "believe" in killing innocent babies?

 

[roadtrasheer]

Of course it’s about religion. The super religious are the ones driving this. And it’s not only hurting Reps, but also driving people away from the church…the Catholic Church in particular.

Most of the other Catholics I know don’t go to church more often or at all, because of the churches views on a number of issues and in particular this one. They shove it down everyone’s throats in church.

So, pushing the anti-abortion agenda is both losing Reps votes and butts in seats at church.

So it's religion that makes people accountable and people who refuse accountability are atheists ?
Ok then ....
I'm not talking about pro life people, I'm talk about pro death people. I understand if you support abortion your probably not gonna be going to church .
Pro death people 60% don't want accountability for there actions and want to kill a baby to justify a mistake.....my question to you is how did we get to a point that murdering someone is OK if it makes a woman's life better and fixes a mistake she makes ? Again she has about 1000 different choices she has a right to make before she ever drops those panties.....

 

[atlkvb]

Yeah...beliefs formed a 1000 years ago will never change. See how many empty seats are in churches these days. Keep up w/ the old school stuff and see how long the churches last. Our priest keeps begging for money and kids to be priests, because no one comes and no one is getting ordained. Its a dying organization, because they refuse to change.

Y'all will be sharing your fairy tales in your living rooms pretty soon...or maybe a public park with the weather is nice.

If you're talking about the Bible it pre dates 1000 years' worth of "beliefs" and it hasn't changed since it was written. You are certainly free to reject its prophetical story of our human origins and ultimate destiny but nothing in the Bible will "change" before all of that is fulfilled.

The only "fairy tales" about it are expressed among folks who think it's all a giant "fairy tale".

 

[Gunny46]

Trump said he changed his mind about abortion once he learned it was killing an innocent baby.

Tell me. Do you "believe" in killing innocent babies?

It is. However unless he willing to support exceptions for Rape, Incest, and Life of the Mother but limiting it to stopping it once a heartbeat is detected or the baby could survive out of womb even with medical assistance. He's probably as radical as those that don't want it under any circumstances. Probably doesn't care about the subject at all. He just wants to use it as a political weapon to get far left Progressives elected.

 

[atlkvb]

@NYC_Eer
will you answer this?

Do you "believe" in killing innocent babies?

 

[roadtrasheer]

Well, you're ****ed, because more and more people believe in it. And no one other than the super Christ-y call it murder. Ask your boy Trump. He's probably an expert. I'm sure he's have plenty of experience with it. Probably why he knows its a losing issue.

I'd say you are 100% correct in saying we are ****ed when people who don't believe in accountability out number those of us who do .
I mean just look at the Democrat run city of NYC. Schools stopped holding kids accountable years ago and now blame everything on a ism. A abortion clinic on every corner ( state funded ) and criminals can't get charged cause it wasn't their fault they killed a person to rob them ... holding people accountable is important in a FREE society. But ....

 

[atlkvb]

It is. However unless he willing to support exceptions for Rape, Incest, and Life of the Mother but limiting it to stopping it once a heartbeat is detected or the baby could survive out of womb even with medical assistance. He's probably as radical as those that don't want it under any circumstances. Probably doesn't care about the subject at all. He just wants to use it as a political weapon to get far left Progressives elected.

I stated earlier most folks who support abortion cannot admit what it is in its simplest form. Killing an innocent Baby.

The baby is as innocent if it is the product of rape, or incest as it is the product of consensual sex. No baby asks NOT to be born or even conceived. Pro aborts automatically throw out those rare instances (rape, incest, Life of the Mother) to justify the random slaughter of 98% of the rest of innocent babies. Yet not one of them readily or confidently admits that is exactly what they support and in fact believe in.

Look how easily NYC eer accuses believers of causing problems over abortion but he cannot freely admit he supports what it actually is?

 

[roadtrasheer]

I stated earlier most folks who support abortion cannot admit what it is in its simplest form. Killing an innocent Baby.

The baby is as innocent if it is the product of rape, or incest as it is the product of consensual sex. No baby asks NOT to be born or even conceived. Pro aborts automatically throw out those rare instances (rape, incest, Life of the Mother) to justify the random slaughter of 98% of the rest of innocent babies. Yet not one of them readily or confidently admits that is exactly what they support and in fact believe in.

Look how easily NYC eer accuses believers of causing problems over abortion but he cannot freely admit he supports what it actually is?

As a man who believes in Jesus, I get the idea if a person is raped they should take a plan b pill right after . I can see the ability to be able to abort if the plan b doesn't kill it . Incest ... that's a wtf argument! If you're banging a relative on the regular go ahead and get fixed or at least stock up on plan b ... but then again how right are you in the head if banging a relation is good by you ...atleast one close enough to deform the child . That brings up another debate all together...

 

[Gunny46]

I stated earlier most folks who support abortion cannot admit what it is in its simplest form. Killing an innocent Baby.

The baby is as innocent if it is the product of rape, or incest as it is the product of consensual sex. No baby asks NOT to be born or even conceived. Pro aborts automatically throw out those rare instances (rape, incest, Life of the Mother) to justify the random slaughter of 98% of the rest of innocent babies. Yet not one of them readily or confidently admits that is exactly what they support and in fact believe in.

Look how easily NYC eer accuses believers of causing problems over abortion but he cannot freely admit he supports what it actually is?

Not a big fan of Cato but this explains the division by Socialist on the Subject. The original founders of Socialism and Communism were against mathusianism. However that evolved over time. Nazis took a different route. However this is why so many support abortion. They think the world is overpopulated and they want to thin out the heard.

Chicom Nazis.

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/neo-malthusianism-coercive-population-control-china-india-overpopulation-concerns

Neo‐Malthusianism and Coercive Population Control in China and India: Overpopulation Concerns Often Result in Coercion​