Trump hasn't said that. I have. Trump has said he'll work with Democrats for a national law.
And magadons think they'll take up Trump's cases
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He said it was a State issue now. West Virginia already has a law. It's pretty Conservative. That law will not pass in other States that could go either way. It's why you are pushing the issue. Because you are a progressive Democrat and you know it will get Republicans beat in swing States.
Most Americans do not want to ban adoration in those rare cases of rape and incest. The Dems have won the narrative on this issue, and it's hurting the GOP in many states.
Then why make it easy for them to do so?!
This is where the media and politicians really deserve a dose of their own medicine. They silence people because of "misinformation" but it is ok if they want to spread misinformation.
On your first response I agree, however most Americans also favor restrictions on abortion especially restrictions on late term tax payer funded abortions which ALL Democrats oppose. That will hurt them in just as many States as you point out only Republicans being hurt.
On your second point virtually any and all efforts to make voting more secure and increase voter integrity through signature and I.D. verifications as well as updating/purging outdated voter registration rolls is opposed again only by Democrats. No one wants to make it easier to cheat, but Democrats and Leftists oppose all efforts to make it harder.
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All Dems are not in opposition of zero restrictions on late term abortions. You’re either lying to further your right wing or stupid…and probably both.
Oh look who's back accusing others of lying and being stupid? I asked you some time ago you may recall to name any prominent Democrats who favor restrictions on tax payer funded late term abortions of choice?
You never answered. Is it because you're a liar trying to further your Left wing ideology or you're stupid?
Probably both.
All of them do minus a loon on two. You don’t understand. So not much else to explain.
I just asked for a few names. Shouldn't be that hard. You realize the Democrat party's official position is no restrictions on late term abortions for any reason? You knew that right?
Even if you didn't, you can at least drop one or two prominent Democrat names who've announced or spoken out in favor of restrictions on late term abortions of choice?
So who 'ya got?
I’m not doing your research for you. You aren’t being honest about it any way. You’ll think whatever you want, which is wrong. Not unusual for you.
You don't have to do any "research" my man. Just drop a couple of Democrat names on us who support restrictions on late term choice abortions? Taxpayer funded or not? I'm saying there are none. Am I wrong?
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Hey @NYC_Eer while you're trying to find at least one semi moral Democrat opposed to late term choice abortions would you mind telling us when you favor restricting them?
I know you once said you couldn't draw that line but maybe 21 weeks was too late correct? OK fair enough, so where would YOU draw that line? You have stated you are opposed to late term abortions of choice correct?
So when does your opposition to late term abortions begin? Or maybe you're just like most Democrats who don't think there should be any restrictions on when a woman decides to terminate her pregnancy?
You don't have to "research" your own position on that do you? 🤔
I know you once said you couldn't draw that line but maybe 21 weeks was too late correct? OK fair enough, so where would YOU draw that line? You have stated you are opposed to late term abortions of choice correct?
So when does your opposition to late term abortions begin? Or maybe you're just like most Democrats who don't think there should be any restrictions on when a woman decides to terminate her pregnancy?
You don't have to "research" your own position on that do you? 🤔
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Prominent Democrats who oppose restrictions on late term on demand choice abortions:
Joe Biden-President
Kamala Harris-Vice President
Gavin Newsome-California Governor
Chuck Schumer-Senate Majority Leader
Nancy Pelosi-Former House Speaker
Hillary Clinton-Smartest woman in the world
Hakeem Jeffries-House Minority Leader
Kathy Hochul-Governor of New York
Alexandria Occasio-Cortez House member/New York
Rashida Talib House member/Minneapolis
And virtually every Senate Democrat
www.cbsnews.com
Excerpt
Senate Democrats on Tuesday blocked a pair of Republican bills that would ban most late-term abortions and threaten prison for doctors who don't try saving the lives of infants born alive during abortions.
Joe Biden-President
Kamala Harris-Vice President
Gavin Newsome-California Governor
Chuck Schumer-Senate Majority Leader
Nancy Pelosi-Former House Speaker
Hillary Clinton-Smartest woman in the world
Hakeem Jeffries-House Minority Leader
Kathy Hochul-Governor of New York
Alexandria Occasio-Cortez House member/New York
Rashida Talib House member/Minneapolis
And virtually every Senate Democrat
Two bills banning most late-term abortions blocked by Senate Democrats
Both were voted down several times in recent years but Republicans raised them anew to provide an election year spotlight on their anti-abortion rights efforts
www.cbsnews.com
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Senate Democrats on Tuesday blocked a pair of Republican bills that would ban most late-term abortions and threaten prison for doctors who don't try saving the lives of infants born alive during abortions.
Just checking in late after being out this evening to see if @NYC_Eer ever offered any of his favorite Democrats standing up for restrictions on late term choice abortions?
I offered to help with a list of many who do not, but his claim "all of them do" isn't supported by his own list.
Wonder why not? 😏
I offered to help with a list of many who do not, but his claim "all of them do" isn't supported by his own list.
Wonder why not? 😏
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I had a purpose asking you to back this up. I proved in asking you for a few prominent Democrat names opposed to restrictions on late term choice abortions that you once again never back up what you post on here. I also showed how being on the Left, you typically accuse others of what YOU do and who YOU are!
Not bad for one night's work 'ya think? Appreciate your gracious participation. 🫡
He won't have a answer . The dnc wants late term murder at will abortions. all democrats must fall in line or the money will stop . Same as open borders, boys can breastfeed, and many , many other socialists leftists agendas.
Why do you care what a person you have never met and likely never will meet does when the act doesn't harm you or even remotely affect you?
Mind your own F'n business and leave everyone else alone. Is that so hard?
This is a losing issue for Republicans and it is clear the election 4 weeks ago didn't wake any of you up.
Now a fetus is a baby. Hmmm.... Strange you whine about men who call themselves women.
I guess changing the definitions is perfectly acceptable depending on the issue.
Have a backbone for christ's sake.
That is a pretty bad argument. A fetus has always been a baby. Nothing wrong with protecting a babies rights if a states voters want that.
So you're prepared now to tell us what else a "fetus" is if it isn't a Baby? 🤔 If it isn't "alive" while also being a baby then what is it, and why does it have to be killed in order to be aborted? Please answer this with some rationale, have a backbone for Christ's sake!
*editor's note: This is how the Left uses "word salads" as described earlier ITT by @roadtrasheer, to get around confronting what else abortion is besides killing an innocent baby? You see, if they can successfully argue it's not really a baby, or not really human, then you aren't really killing it! See how that works? 😏
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Excellent point here Dave! Imagine an expectant mother who actually is thrilled over the prospect of she and her husband's first Blessed offspring? She excitedly tells her hubby when he comes home from a hard day's work of paying for creepy Joe Biden's inflationary spending: "Guess what honey? I got my tests back from the OB/GYN today...and we're pregnant with a FETUS!!!!! Isn't it wonderful?"
Hubby: "Sure baby girl...wait till I tell all the guys at work we're going to have a FETUS!!! They'll be so thrilled."
So you pull into your local convenience store and see a robber brutally assaulting an innocent Mother and her helpless infant. He's about to beat them to death before making off with his haul. You can stop it and save their lives. Does your rationale as you've described it here still apply in defending an innocent baby's life in this example?
What's the difference...neither scenario is "none of your business", you've never met them before, they're perfect strangers to you, the man isn't robbing YOU and it's not even your money he's stealing! So you'd just walk on by while the baby and its mother are slaughtered to death?
You are one sick individual. Proud of yourself?
I notice you cannot defend killing the innocent baby, so you cleverly adjust the boundaries of the debate into how it's hurting the GOP? I asked you what's "lame" about defending an innocent baby's right to Life? Your argument is "lame". Who cares about saving the GOP if it means allowing the random slaughter of millions of innocent children who didn't ask to be born, but still have a right to live?
Please stop posting me about this. I'm Christian and I'm not sure I can withhold what I might suggest of condemning your rotten Soul to Hell for such Evil. I'll Pray for you, but please don't post me anymore because I'm so upset with you right now I might curse you out.
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Not until the nutjobs changed the definitions several years ago just like the ADL changed the definition of racism to suit their needs last year.
After fertilization, it is called a zygote. Then it becomes an embryo, then fetus, then a baby.
Well if I am witnessing an attack just feet away, it certainly would affect me. Robbery is a crime against living human beings. It can make us all feel less safe in our community and cause businesses to vacate areas where it occurs and potential customers to take their business elsewhere.
Contrast that to some dumb bitch in North Dakota pulling the plug on her pregnancy. That doesn't affect you or me 1 bit. Perhaps you can tell me how that affects your life because the best I can come up with is 1 less potential customer to purchase a vehicle in 16 years.
I didn't say anything about killing babies. And now you are calling embryos children. That's cute.I notice you cannot defend killing the innocent baby, so you cleverly adjust the boundaries of the debate into how it's hurting the GOP? I asked you what's "lame" about defending an innocent baby's right to Life? Your argument is "lame". Who cares about saving the GOP if it means allowing the random slaughter of millions of innocent children who didn't ask to be born, but still have a right to live?
Please top posting me about this. I'm Christian and I'm not sure I can withhold what I might suggest of condemning your rotten Soul to Hell for such Evil. I'll Pray for you, but please don't post me anymore because I'm so upset with you right now I might curse you out.
I guess we do live in times where we just change the definitions to suit our needs so Caitlyn Jenner is a woman. Good lord.
Guess what you arrogant, self absorbed, myopic, miscreant? YOU are also nothing but an "embryo" who's been granted Grace by your Creator... Almighty God to live! I Pray for his Mercy and Justice for the day to come when YOU will become ashes to ashes as we all were once dust-to-dust!
Mercifully you have a very limited time left on this Earth (as we all do) so I won't be waiting long for my Prayers to be fulfilled for your decrepit Soul.
If I'm not wrong but a zygote is still considered life . When did it become acceptable to take life to make up for our mistakes? When did it become acceptable to take a innocent life to make our life's better?
The debate should be When does life begin. I believe scotus got it correct letting states decide.
I believe life begins at conception as I looked at my daughter's ultrasound, she's 8 weeks and it's a baby ..... that I will get to love and hold and watch the first smile ...
As a baby it's cute & cuddly. As it grows it's a child, then a teen, then an adult. After it goes off to College and gets "educated" it turns into an imbecile.
Yeah you did! You called it a "lame" issue and couldn't explain why?
Uh, no... that was your cute little trick because you couldn't explain what's lame about defending the lives of unborn babies? So YOU changed the name to "embryos" which of course in your own warped nomenclature makes them perfectly fine to slaughter in the womb.
Well I guess so? Can't explain what's "lame" about aborting babies? Call them "embryos". Problem solved.
BTW Caitlyn Jenner can call him/herself whatever. We're born either boys or girls and if you're lucky enough to be born without being aborted that's what you are until you die.
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Will all due respect, you may consider it that. I don't, and most don't. Its a fertilized cell. That's it. It has no feeling or cognition. Its a stage that lasts just a few days only a few days after conception...before anyone even knows they're pregnant. So, no one would even know they were pregnant at that point. The only thing that would stop that process would be a morning after pill.
That to most is not life. And no one is defining what life is. Its a useless exercise for science let along when you introduce religion, which is based on whatever your particular religion believes I guess.
That said, I'm in favor of states rights as well. Let each state decide.
And as I and others have said, its a losing issue. Almost 2/3 of the US is in favor of abortion is some form. So, feel free to die on that hill, but its going to cloud other issues on which Reps have it right.
With all due respect to you, the miracle of a baby growing from a fertilized egg into a human being is more complex and intricate than even you understand! It's not about "Religion" (unless you believe all that happens by accident and is not by intelligent design) however even if you discard a "designer" of something so complex as a growing fertilized Zygote...at least "follow the science"!
Remember that refrain from the Left?
The miracle of fetal development
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fertilization takes place at two weeks of gestational age and implantation about one week later. At fertilization, genetic instructions from the mother and the father combine to form a zygote, barely visible to the human eye.1 This single cell contains more information than fifty sets of the physical 33-volume set of the Encyclopedia Britannica.
Yes, my friend, that is a miracle!
"I'm a miracle?"
Yes little innocent one, you are!
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Well I don't live on the US/Mexico border, but I'm concerned who's illegally coming into this country unchecked and unvetted? I don't live in Southwest Atlanta, but I'm very worried about all the random shootings and indiscriminate killing that goes on in that part of my hometown daily? I don't know any N. Dakota sluts who can't keep their legs closed, but I sure as Hell don't want to pay for their abortions just because they don't know how to control themselves or they refuse to accept responsibility for their own sexual actions!
You live in a hyperbolic hermetically sealed chamber in which nothing from the outside world effects you? Well I want to live in a civil, safe, sane society that respects the sanctity of Life where citizens aren't killing innocent kids they simply don't want and they aren't running around randomly murdering anyone else they don't like then suggesting no one's unaffected by it all?
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2/3 of the country dislike accountability for their free choice. If I was a politician who didn't believe in abortion I would leave religion out of it. Yes I would debate when life begins .
I don't have a problem with the morning after pill . I think one of the 10,000 forms of birth control should be used .
If I was a politician running for office I'd simply state its up to the states not the feds and leave it at that .
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