Zelenskyy leaves White House after Ukraine talks collapse
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Biden lost his temper on a call with Zelenskyy when Ukraine's leader asked for more aid
Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in military assistance when the Ukrainian president started listing all the additional help he needed.
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But a phone call between the two leaders in June played out differently from previous ones, according to four people familiar with the call. Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in U.S. military assistance for Ukraine when Zelenskyy started listing all the additional help he needed and wasn’t getting. Biden lost his temper, the people familiar with the call said. The American people were being quite generous, and his administration and the U.S. military were working hard to help Ukraine, he said, raising his voice, and Zelenskyy could show a little more gratitude.
Biden lost his temper on a call with Zelenskyy when Ukraine's leader asked for more aid
Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in military assistance when the Ukrainian president started listing all the additional help he needed.
But a phone call between the two leaders in June played out differently from previous ones, according to four people familiar with the call. Biden had barely finished telling Zelenskyy he’d just greenlighted another $1 billion in U.S. military assistance for Ukraine when Zelenskyy started listing all the additional help he needed and wasn’t getting. Biden lost his temper, the people familiar with the call said. The American people were being quite generous, and his administration and the U.S. military were working hard to help Ukraine, he said, raising his voice, and Zelenskyy could show a little more gratitude.
You are the drama Queen.
Also... in 2022 President Joe Biden said Zelenskyy WAS NOT grateful enough for what he was providing them...it's on the record ...I believe you will find it.
You actually believe that the Trump we know was going to allow Zelenskyy dictate to him the FUKIN TERMS....IF you do ...You are a FOOL.
Why do you try and talk sense into that bot? You know he's nothing but a TDS infected, media mind controlled myrmidon.
I keep hoping Moe would show a bit of honesty.Why do you try and talk sense into that bot? You know he's nothing but a TDS infected, media mind controlled myrmidon.
Unfortunately Moe reminds me of the old southern redneck KKK nuts who still believe they are right. Old KKK Bobby Byrd fans.
Anyone else remember in the 1990's hearing Conspiracy Theroies coming out of Russia that Putin was a CIA Asset? I use to think it was propaganda that the old guard USSR Communist spread. After looking at all his blunders over the years I actually might think there could be something to it. Nobody has done more to strengthen NATO.
You and Trump are need to quit making things up, Zelensky didn't dictate anything.
If Trump ever does get pregnant with Putin's "Love child" that's the day you'll be cured of TDS. 😆
*hint (it'll never happen...never)
All those times bamaeer drilled your ass you would have learned a man can't get pregnant.
Moe wants to kill American Soldiers and give away trillions of dollars to a trash corrupt country.
He didn't have to...he's an ungrateful little imp. Let's see how long he survives without America's help? Just say "thank you" sign the deal and shut up!
Now that America is aligned with Russia and North Korea, who will be the new leader of the free world? France? UK?
That’s because what Trump is asking for is not about “just any legal case or any set of legal cases,” Pearlstein said. “This is an effort to turn the U.S. from a constitutional democracy into an authoritarian system more like Hungary.”
“The endgame has nothing to do with the current system of the rule of law as we know it,” she added. “The endgame has to do with making the U.S. government, ‘whatever the president says goes.’”
That’s because what Trump is asking for is not about “just any legal case or any set of legal cases,” Pearlstein said. “This is an effort to turn the U.S. from a constitutional democracy into an authoritarian system more like Hungary.”
“The endgame has nothing to do with the current system of the rule of law as we know it,” she added. “The endgame has to do with making the U.S. government, ‘whatever the president says goes.’”
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No muslim nation will ever be leader of the free world.
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@realDonaldTrump
for your unwavering leadership in standing up for the interests of the American people, and peace. What you said is absolutely true: Zelensky has been trying to drag the United States into a nuclear war with Russia/WW3 for years now, and no one has called him on it. Thank you, Vice President
@JDVance
for speaking out so forcefully and clearly, about the necessity of diplomacy.
@realDonaldTrump
for your unwavering leadership in standing up for the interests of the American people, and peace. What you said is absolutely true: Zelensky has been trying to drag the United States into a nuclear war with Russia/WW3 for years now, and no one has called him on it. Thank you, Vice President
@JDVance
for speaking out so forcefully and clearly, about the necessity of diplomacy.
2:00 Trump compliments Zelenskyy4:00 Zelenskyy calls Putin a terrorist12:00 Trump cracks joke with Zelensky13:56 Zelenskyy interrupts Trump17:20 Zelenskyy throws his hands up in seeming frustration19:00 reporter asks Zelenskyy why he’s not wearing a suit19:22 Trump commits to sending arms to Ukraine19:41 Zelensky raises eyebrows and rolls eyes at Trump’s statement22:55 Trump takes the edge off of the suit question by joking with Zelensky that he likes his outfit23:49 Zelensky contradicts Trump and keeps painting Putin in a negative light 24:19 Zelensky says Putin will never accept ceasefire and pushes for American security guarantee25:55 Zelensky says Putin hates Ukrainians27:00 Zelensky says Putin should pay all reconstruction costs 29:19 Zelensky shakes head as Trump speaks32:22 Zelensky says Putin wants to annex Poland32:30 Zelensky says Putin will attack America 33:00 Zelensky interrupts Trump39:19 This is when Trump went on the offensive by calling out Zelenskyy hatred for Putin and started to escalate39:14 Vance says Zelensky has been disrespectful, and conversation continues to escalate 42:40 Apparently calls Vance “suka”, meaning bitch, under his breath.You don't have to like how Trump handled this, but don’t buy into the story that he ambushed Zelensky.
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I would like to make a point about the Ukraine/Russia War.I believe it is the most important point. Here it is:Right now, as you are reading this, a Ukrainian or Russian teen was in all likelihood killed in action.Why?For what?Ukraine cannot win this war. What Zelenskyy wants is for the US and/or NATO to literally start fighting the Russians, and that's not going to happen because nobody wants nuclear Armageddon and the end of humanity (except possibly Zelenskyy).So what is the ONLY option? Answer: mark the boundaries where they are right now and stop fighting.Trump knows this. Vance knows this. Anyone with a brain who understands war knows this.THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION.And anybody who disagrees with what I just said is either a bloodthirsty warmonger, a lobotomite midwit, or both.Face reality people.
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Ten bad takeaways from the Zelenskyy blow-up1. Zelenskyy does not grasp—or deliberately ignores—the bitter truth: those with whom he feels most affinity (Western globalists, the American Left, the Europeans) have little power in 2025 to help him. And those with whom he obviously does not like or seeks to embarrass (cf. his Scranton, Penn. campaign-like visit in September 2024) alone have the power to save him. For his own sake, I hope he is not being “briefed” by the Obama-Clinton-Biden gang to confront Trump, given their interests are not really Ukraine’s as they feign.
2. Zelenskyy acts as if his agendas and ours are identical. So, he keeps insisting that he is fighting for us despite our two-ocean-distance that he mocks. We do have many shared interests with Ukraine, but not all by any means: Trump wants to “reset” with Russia and triangulate it against China. He seeks to avoid a 1962 DEFCON 2-like crisis over a proxy showdown in proximity to a nuclear rival. And he sincerely wants to end the deadlocked Stalingrad slaughterhouse for everyone’s sake.
3. The Europeans (and Canada) are now talking loudly of a new muscular antithesis, independent of the U.S. Promises, promises—given that would require Europeans to prune back their social welfare state, frack, use nuclear, stop the green obsessions, and spend 3-5 percent of their GDP on defense. The U.S. does not just pay 16 percent of NATO’s budget but also puts up with asymmetrical tariffs that result in a European Union trade surplus of $160 billion, plays the world cop patrolling sea-lanes and deterring terrorists and rogues states that otherwise might interrupt Europe’s commercial networks abroad, as well as de facto including Europe under a nuclear umbrella of 6,500 nukes.
4. Zelenskyy must know that all of the once deal-stopping issues to peace have been de facto settled: Ukraine is now better armed than most NATO nations, but will not be in NATO; and no president has or will ever supply Ukraine with the armed wherewithal to take back the Donbass and Crimea. So, the only two issues are a) how far will Putin be willing to withdraw to his 2022 borders and b) how will he be deterred? The first is answered by a commercial sector/tripwire, joint Ukrainian-US-Europe resource development corridor in Eastern Ukraine, coupled with a Korea-like DMZ; the second by the fact that Putin unlike his 2008 and 2014 invasions has now lost a million dead and wounded to a Ukraine that will remain thusly armed.
5. What are Zelenskyy’s alternatives without much U.S. help—wait for a return of the Democrats to the White House in four years? Hope for a rearmed Europe? Pray for a Democratic House and a 3rd Vindman-like engineered Trump impeachment? Or swallow his pride, return to the White House, sign the rare-earth minerals deal, invite in the Euros (are they seriously willing to patrol a DMZ?), and hope Trump can warn Putin, as he did successfully between 2017-21, not to dare try it again?
6. If there is a cease fire, a commercial deal, a Euro ground presence, and influx of Western companies into Ukraine, would there be elections? And if so, would Zelenskyy and his party win? And if not, would there be a successor transparent government that would reveal exactly where all the Western financial aid money went?
7. Zelenskyy might see a model in Netanyahu. The Biden Administration was far harder on him than Trump is on Ukraine: suspending arms shipments, demanding cease-fires, prodding for a wartime, bipartisan cabinet, hammering Israel on collateral damage—none of which Westerners have demanded of Zelenskyy. Yet Netanyahu managed a hostile Biden, kept Israel close to its patron, and when visiting was gracious to his host. Netanyahu certainly would never before the global media have interrupted, and berated a host and patron president in the White House.
8. If Ukraine has alienated the U.S. what then is its strategic victory plan? Wait around for more Euros? Hold off an increasingly invigorated Russian military? Cede more territory? What, then, exactly are Zelenskyy’s cards he seems to think are a winning hand?
9. If one views carefully all the 50-minute tape, most of it was going quite well—until Zelenskyy started correcting Vance firstly, and Trump secondly. By Ukraine-splaining to his hosts, and by his gestures, tone, and interruptions, he made it clear that he assumed that Trump was just more of the same compliant, clueless moneybags Biden waxen effigy. And that was naïve for such a supposedly worldly leader.
10. March 2025 is not March 2022, after the heroic saving of Kyiv—but three years and 1.5 million dead and wounded later. Zelenskyy is no longer the international heartthrob with the glamorous entourage. He has postponed elections, outlawed opposition media and parties, suspended habeas corpus and walked out of negotiations when he had an even hand in Spring 2022 and apparently even now when he does not in Spring 2025.Quo vadis, Volodymyr?
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The same traitors who colluded in Trump’s first impeachment and Russia hoax: Zelenskyy, Sullivan, Blinken, Rice, Nuland, and Vindman were the architects of Zelensky’s blowing up the peace talks. They are acting as foreign agents.
This is treasonous and most certainly a violation of the Logan Act. Ironically, this traitorous act will have the opposite effect of what they intended – chalk another one up to the law of unintended consequences.
This is treasonous and most certainly a violation of the Logan Act. Ironically, this traitorous act will have the opposite effect of what they intended – chalk another one up to the law of unintended consequences.
