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Zelenskyy leaves White House after Ukraine talks collapse

Another Trump total fail. He should do his "deal making" behind closed doors. Hard to watch.

Zelenskyy leaves White House after Ukraine talks collapse
Maybe Trump can call up his buddy Vlad now, and they can negotiate how to split up all the rare earth minerals from Ukraine? :rolleyes:

I'm just upset I won't be gettin' my cut from Ukraine anymore!
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Yeah, sorry there "big guy"...you couldn't get a deal done to save Ukraine during the last 4 years, so now 'ya just have to sit by and watch a real leader bring an end to that senseless war! 😏
 
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Another Trump total fail. He should do his "deal making" behind closed doors. Hard to watch.

Zelenskyy leaves White House after Ukraine talks collapse
I like that we all got to see how this stuff works. I don't think these two like each other. My daughter didn't like how Trump acted...my wife thought Trump was correct and that Zelenskyy was very cocky.
We have to keep in mind that we have given Zelenskyy almost 200 Billion. Without the U.S. the Ukraine would be gone.
 
We have to keep in mind that we have given Zelenskyy almost 200 Billion. Without the U.S. the Ukraine would be gone.
That's the dirty little secret the folks critical of Trump don't understand....he's actually trying to keep them from getting wiped out by the Russians, and us paying for it!
 
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Ukraine might want to Investigate if Zelensky is working for Putin. He seems to want to give Ukraine to him while bankrupting us.
Exactly my speculation. Zelensky was totally ungrateful for all the help we've already given him to avoid being annihilated!
 
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All Zelensky did was take too much time to explain to Trump and Vance how many times Putin had broken his word and couldn't be trusted. That made Vance and Trump mad and it was pure shitshow from then to the end. I'm sure Zelensky has thanked the U.S. before and I wouldn't kiss the ring right then either despite Vance wanting him to do so. The Trump/Vance meltdown and attempt to bully him looked amateurish and juvenile.
 
All Zelensky did was take too much time to explain to Trump and Vance how many times Putin had broken his word and couldn't be trusted. That made Vance and Trump mad and it was pure shitshow from then to the end. I'm sure Zelensky has thanked the U.S. before and I wouldn't kiss the ring right then either despite Vance wanting him to do so. The Trump/Vance meltdown and attempt to bully him looked amateurish and juvenile.

Doesn't sound like an apology and Lindsey Graham is now trashing him on Fox News. When Zelensky has lost Graham who is telling Ukraine they might new leadership then you know he's fvcked up.


 
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The Trump/Vance meltdown and attempt to bully him looked amateurish and juvenile.
Yeah sure @moe ...some "Dictator" Trump turned into during that exchange huh? He's (Trump) so dominating & demanding he forced over 75 million Americans to vote for his re-election against their will, yet he couldn't convince that semi-Bolshevik little sawed off runt to keep his ignorant, ungrateful mouth shut defying the very country that's spent billions keeping his rickety, broken down, sitting-duck wasteland from being overrun by Putin! 😏

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Zelensky made Trump look weak, so that served my purposes better than claiming he's some sort of overpowering strong-arm "Dictator" when clearly in that instance he was hardly any "Dictator" at all!

Gee @moe ...even a TDS crazed Zombie can admit to the obvious! :rolleyes:
 
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All Zelensky did was take too much time to explain to Trump and Vance how many times Putin had broken his word and couldn't be trusted. That made Vance and Trump mad and it was pure shitshow from then to the end. I'm sure Zelensky has thanked the U.S. before and I wouldn't kiss the ring right then either despite Vance wanting him to do so. The Trump/Vance meltdown and attempt to bully him looked amateurish and juvenile.
All Zelenskyy did was not realize who he was running his mouth to. Ukraine is completely dependent on us incapable of its own defense without us. He needs to realize that. He needs to realize, if Russia completely took Ukraine tomorrow, very few in this country would give a shit. Like the Biden admin, Zelenskyy doesn’t have the pulse on America, he has the pulse on the political and IC class. They’re not currently running the country. Trump and the people are.
 
All Zelenskyy did was not realize who he was running his mouth to. Ukraine is completely dependent on us incapable of its own defense without us. He needs to realize that. He needs to realize, if Russia completely took Ukraine tomorrow, very few in this country would give a shit. Like the Biden admin, Zelenskyy doesn’t have the pulse on America, he has the pulse on the political and IC class. They’re not currently running the country. Trump and the people are.
Exactly! (and it's no "Dictatorship") :rolleyes:
 
Exactly! (and it's no "Dictatorship") :rolleyes:
Honestly? The move from Trump right now is to say to Europe, “we tried, this is a European problem. We’re done and walking away. If he doesn’t want peace, that’s up to him and Europe. With respect to article 5, we will honor it only in an unprovoked attack. If it is as a result of escalation over Ukraine, we’re not going to get involved.”

Watch how fast the entire continent comes to heel.
 
Honestly? The move from Trump right now is to say to Europe, “we tried, this is a European problem. We’re done and walking away. If he doesn’t want peace, that’s up to him and Europe. With respect to article 5, we will honor it only in an unprovoked attack. If it is as a result of escalation over Ukraine, we’re not going to get involved.”

Watch how fast the entire continent comes to heel.
Totally agree, also if Trump really wanted to bother Zelensky...he'd threaten to cut off all aid immediately unless the little turtle neck sweater wearing wimp comes to his senses and negotiates some type of security agreement paid for with their rare earth minerals!

Little twerp!!!!

I don't know why Americans want to see me "beg" for my protection from Mother Russia?
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You don't have to "beg" little Bolshevik bro, just sign the damn security agreement being offered to your stupid ass and pay for it! :mad:
 
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Another Trump total fail. He should do his "deal making" behind closed doors. Hard to watch.

Zelenskyy leaves White House after Ukraine talks collapse

This is why America voted for Trump. We got to see first hand on national television that Trump is standing up for America. Zelensky showed on national tv that he is not willing to end the war even though his country is getting DESTROYED.

Americans overwhelmingly support the end of the war and the US not sending anymore tax payer money to prolong it.

YUGE WIN for Trump and the USA today.
 
All Zelensky did was take too much time to explain to Trump and Vance how many times Putin had broken his word and couldn't be trusted. That made Vance and Trump mad and it was pure shitshow from then to the end. I'm sure Zelensky has thanked the U.S. before and I wouldn't kiss the ring right then either despite Vance wanting him to do so. The Trump/Vance meltdown and attempt to bully him looked amateurish and juvenile.

That is an incorrect assessment. That was the absolute wrong time and place for Nazi Zelensky to bring that up. He then falsely claimed that Russia attacked during Trump's first presidency.

It's obvious that Zelensky came in today with the plan to undermine Trump's plan. The idiot did it right in front of the world and Trump/JD turned it around on him and put him in his place. Zelensky was caught off guard and came across as weak and defensive. Trump and JD remained calm and welcoming body language while Zelensky had his arms folded.
 
That is an incorrect assessment. That was the absolute wrong time and place for Nazi Zelensky to bring that up. He then falsely claimed that Russia attacked during Trump's first presidency.

It's obvious that Zelensky came in today with the plan to undermine Trump's plan. The idiot did it right in front of the world and Trump/JD turned it around on him and put him in his place. Zelensky was caught off guard and came across as weak and defensive. Trump and JD remained calm and welcoming body language while Zelensky had his arms folded.
Trump should have told that ungrateful imp to shut up or WE'LL attack your little fiefdom! :mad:
 
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JUST IN: Senator Lindsey Graham says he doesn’t think the United States can ever do business with Zelensky again, says he has never been more proud of Trump and Vance.“I have never been more proud of the president. I was very proud of JD Vance standing up for our country.”“The way he handled the meeting, the way he confronted the president was just over the top.”“What I saw in the Oval Office was disrespectful. And I don't know if we can ever do business with Zelensky again.”
 




NEWS: Ukrainian member of parliament confirms to me that the minerals deal was ratified yesterday by the cabinet – however it would not be finished until a minister signed it, which was set to happen today with Zelenskyy ahead of the ceremonial signing between Zelenskyy and Trump.A WH official tells me none of that is really relevant – because the US would not accept the deal without Zelenskyy’s signature.No word on if Zelenskyy is still making overtures to restart talks before he leaves the US – but I’m told the feeling within the White House mirrors what Sen. Lindsey Graham said on our air: that Zelenskyy may be irredeemable in the eyes of the American people. I asked this Ukrainian member of parliament (who is a member of an opposing party, not a Zelenskyy supporter) whether there is now increased pressure to call elections and replace Zelenskyy, given President Trump’s statements to FOX last week that Zelenskyy resisted making a deal to end the war for too long, and the country SHOULD call for elections. He told me the answer is no, because it is “physically impossible” to hold elections with the war raging on – they would “need a ceasefire at the least”.He told me Zelenskyy is heading to London tomorrow and European leaders have been reaching out to Zelenskyy/Ukrainians in the aftermath of the Trump fallout, reiterating their support.
 
Another Trump total fail. He should do his "deal making" behind closed doors. Hard to watch.

Zelenskyy leaves White House after Ukraine talks collapse
A little history for you:

The Russo-Ukrainian War began in February 2014. Following Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, Russia occupied and annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists who began fighting the Ukrainian military in the Donbas War.

U.S. President Barack Obama did NOTHING.


In February 2022, Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine
and began occupying more of the country, starting the biggest conflict in Europe since World War II.

U.S. President Joe Biden did NOTHING
 
A little history for you:

The Russo-Ukrainian War began in February 2014. Following Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, Russia occupied and annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists who began fighting the Ukrainian military in the Donbas War.

U.S. President Barack Obama did NOTHING.


In February 2022, Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine and began occupying more of the country, starting the biggest conflict in Europe since World War II.

U.S. President Joe Biden did NOTHING
Let's call that a MAGA history lesson, lol. We've done nothing but send arms and ammo to Ukraine since the war began, nearly all of it came from Joe and you call that doing nothing? You wanted U.S. boots on the ground there too? What is your point? Apparently you think that Obama should have attacked Putin in Crimea as well. cool story and thanks for sharing your MAGA feelings.
 
Let's call that a MAGA history lesson, lol. We've done nothing but send arms and ammo to Ukraine since the war began, nearly all of it came from Joe and you call that doing nothing? You wanted U.S. boots on the ground there too? What is your point? Apparently you think that Obama should have attacked Putin in Crimea as well. cool story and thanks for sharing your MAGA feelings.


I think Europe needs to get it's shit together. We already saved their ass twice.
 
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All Zelensky did was take too much time to explain to Trump and Vance how many times Putin had broken his word and couldn't be trusted. That made Vance and Trump mad and it was pure shitshow from then to the end. I'm sure Zelensky has thanked the U.S. before and I wouldn't kiss the ring right then either despite Vance wanting him to do so. The Trump/Vance meltdown and attempt to bully him looked amateurish and juvenile.
Where do yo get your BS info? Pull your pants up, your dumbness is showing.
 
Moe...think about this....Ukraine needs the U.S.....The U.S. does not need Ukraine.
After watching meeting again...Zelenskyy tried to tell the U.S. what to do and was very insulting.
You and Trump are both drama queens. Trump was supposed to close a deal today and failed because he wanted some TV drama and it blew up in his face. Trump melted down, made no sense and then bailed on the rest of the meeting. Zelensky kept his cool. What did Zelensky try to tell the U.S. to do? I missed that. How did he insult us? by making Trump look like a tool? that's not hard to do. Vance begging him to thank them right then was pathetic. Trump wanted a win today, didn't get it. Trump is too much of a primadonna and should let the lower level folks figure this out then sign at the end.
 
You and Trump are both drama queens. Trump was supposed to close a deal today and failed because he wanted some TV drama and it blew up in his face. Trump melted down, made no sense and then bailed on the rest of the meeting. Zelensky kept his cool. What did Zelensky try to tell the U.S. to do? I missed that. How did he insult us? by making Trump look like a tool? that's not hard to do. Vance begging him to thank them right then was pathetic. Trump wanted a win today, didn't get it. Trump is too much of a primadonna and should let the lower level folks figure this out then sign at the end.

Early polls show that 81% of Americans side with Trump and that Zelensky made a fool of himself. Womp womp
 
You and Trump are both drama queens. Trump was supposed to close a deal today and failed because he wanted some TV drama and it blew up in his face. Trump melted down, made no sense and then bailed on the rest of the meeting. Zelensky kept his cool. What did Zelensky try to tell the U.S. to do? I missed that. How did he insult us? by making Trump look like a tool? that's not hard to do. Vance begging him to thank them right then was pathetic. Trump wanted a win today, didn't get it. Trump is too much of a primadonna and should let the lower level folks figure this out then sign at the end.

Maybe Zelensky will let you fly back with him so you can fight for him.
 



TRUMP: WITHOUT AMERICA, ZELENSKY LOSES“Zelensky didn’t want to do a ceasefire! A ceasefire would end it IMMEDIATELY!I want it to end IMMEDIATELY. All the sudden he’s a big shot because he’s got the United States on his side…Without us he DOESN’T win.I’m only interested if he wants to end the bloodshed.”
 
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