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This idiocy in Chicago is why I vote for TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!**

I see we have different priorities; I understand your positions. The Nixon administration created the Southern Strategy, along with Strom Thurmond, which pitted minorities against values espoused by many traditional whites. Trump rallies now and Nixon rallies in the late 60s look very similar; ergo Nixonesque (or "seem like Nixon" if you don't like that word). For me, I believe people not being treated fairly due to race is paramount; I understand you all may disagree. In retrospect, it was unfair for me to call or claim anybody "old or dim"; that was wrong on my part, and I apologize for such.
 
I loved the interviews outside the rally. When they interview the protesters and simply asked, "Why are you protesting?" Most all, and most all white, answered, "I'd rather not say."

When they interviewed a young kid who was a Trump supporter he was heckled non-stop, to the point he couldn't answer the questions. Finally they talked to a vet who was a former Christie supporter who said it clearly, "I just showed up to hear what the man had to say to see if I had any reason to support him or not."

And sure enough, the spin by some is about how Trump caved to the protesters.
Why are you protesting? "Ummmm, I'm getting paid to"
 
I'm just curious, when you have MoveOn.org and BLM showing up to incite and provoke violence at his rallies, why is it Trump being called out and not those idiots from the left?
Oh and then throw in the fact that the alternatives to Trump are Ted Cruz, a socialist, and an as yet unconvicted felon, yea, we've really progressed.

The real truth is that IF race relations improve we ALL know it would be terrible news for our liberal Democrat friends. They would lose millions of votes. They created this myth for only ONE reason ....VOTES. Some people are just plain blind to the truth.
 
I always thought that the ACTUAL crime is what we try to prevent or prosecute, not percentages that are based on race? Use your "percentage" all you want, fact is that the large majority of violent crimes are still committed by us WHITES. Yet, we want to focus on the inner city crime and that of black communities? Is that efficient? What about the violent crimes in white neighborhoods that get very little press or media coverage? Part of your Republican propaganda technique to shift the focus in the direction they want it? Away from white America?

The dems have fostered i
I would hazard a guess and say a lot of the white crime is also inner city or low income anyway.

It's a socioeconomic thing. We just need to start fvcking up the poor. That'll fix it.

According to the liberals, whitey has caused them to turn bad. We should never have made it so hard for them to get free stuff and they wouldn't commit as many crimes.
 
For me, I believe people not being treated fairly due to race is paramount; I understand you all may disagree.

No one disagrees with that sentiment. No one wants to be treated unfairly due to their race. It's a message I strive to instill in my children and insist with those around me. But for me that is a two way street.

Essentially... treat others as you'd have them treat you.
 
I see we have different priorities; I understand your positions. The Nixon administration created the Southern Strategy, along with Strom Thurmond, which pitted minorities against values espoused by many traditional whites. Trump rallies now and Nixon rallies in the late 60s look very similar; ergo Nixonesque (or "seem like Nixon" if you don't like that word).

Nixon was NEVER a racist and his rallies in the 1968 election run-up WERE all about the Nam WAR. How old were you in 1968?
 
No, my statement is that blacks are 5 times more likely to commit a violent crime than blacks. It's simple math when you look at the population. But, I work in the western va Regional jail and I have seen very few blacks and the inmate population is close to 900.

OK, we solve the black violent crime problem.....and what dent would that do to the overall violent crime rate? Yeah, not much because it's ok for whites to commit these crimes.....
 
I would hazard a guess and say a lot of the white crime is also inner city or low income anyway.

It's a socioeconomic thing. We just need to start fvcking up the poor. That'll fix it.

That's right.....and the upper class just F**KS all the lower class with low-wage jobs, high costs, and laws that allow them to shut down their plants and move them overseas and then deny retirement packages to the workers......
 
OK, we solve the black violent crime problem.....and what dent would that do to the overall violent crime rate? Yeah, not much because it's ok for whites to commit these crimes.....

The way to cut down on crime is to create GOOD jobs and the liberal Dems that control our cities have failed miserably in that regard. Why do you think Hillary was making the beds up in the Lincoln Bedroom,,,,,, while Bill was in the basement playing with his cigars and the intern,,,,, for the Chinese who were paying MILLIONS to sleep there. Funny... how we REALLY started to lose GOOD paying US jobs to China after those Chinese with the moneybags had a good nights rest. FOOLS...FOOLS...FOOLS.
 
Nixon was NEVER a racist and his rallies in the 1968 election run-up WERE all about the Nam WAR. How old were you in 1968?

Are you serious? Listen to his own words on his recorded tapes released by the Nixon Presidential Library. Couple highlights for you,"Blacks will only strengthen the country in a term of 500 years" not the 50 years suggested by his aide, who must have "somewhat sort of a blind spot on the black thing because he's been in New York." Nixon says blacks need much longer, and it will only work if the good ones are "frankly, inbred." Frankly.

"Negro bastards" only wanted to "live like a bunch of dogs" on welfare.

Hard to believe the man that said these things isn't a racist.
 
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Are you serious? Listen to his own words on his recorded tapes released by the Nixon Presidential Library. Couple highlights for you,"Blacks will only strengthen the country in a term of 500 years" not the 50 years suggested by his aide, who must have "somewhat sort of a blind spot on the black thing because he's been in New York." Nixon says blacks need much longer, and it will only work if the good ones are "frankly, inbred." Frankly.

"Negro bastards" only wanted to "live like a bunch of dogs" on welfare.

Hard to believe the man that said these things isn't a racist.

Play me a recording of ANY rally where he said such things. I bet you NEVER heard ANY of his public speeches. He privately said offensive things about Italians,Jews,the Irish and others. Did find any dirt on Bobby Byrd,JFK, LBJ,Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. OH.....maybe you missed this quote from Hillary Clinton that she made in a PUBLIC forum in 1994: "We have to bring them to heel". Nixon is dead and buried......but Hillary is alive and wants to be President. Show me where Trump EVER said anything bad about African Americans.
 
I'm just curious, when you have MoveOn.org and BLM showing up to incite and provoke violence at his rallies, why is it Trump being called out and not those idiots from the left?

When it comes to how he deals with hecklers, I actually love it. He makes them a mockery and delivers the contempt to which they deserve. He is standing up to Political Correctness and not backing down. That is also very encouraging as I don't want a victim or someone who will apologize just for a vote. I want someone who will stand tall to criticism and adversity.

Trump is taking everything the left, the right, and the media can throw at him and shoving it right back in everyone's faces. Your position that it's moving us socially backwards is only true if one accepts the PC movement of the last 20 years was moving us forward. I personally don't believe that it was after all, the biggest problem facing kids today is college loan debt. The fact that is even something discussed during a presidential election with the state of the Muslim world, our economy, our fractured government, and our precarious fiscal situation is mind boggling.

Oh and then throw in the fact that the alternatives to Trump are Ted Cruz, a socialist, and an as yet unconvicted felon, yea, we've really progressed.

Wow, just wow. Do you really believe what you post?

BLM inciting violence? Did BLM say "he needs punched in the face"? Did BLM or MoveOn say, "attack them, I'll pay your legal fees"? Does BLM say "get 'em outta here"?
I'm not surprised at all you like the way he deals with hecklers. It is very unprofessional. He could stand there and say "security, please remove them". That would show much more respect to other human beings. They are human beings, by the way. I know folks like you and Trump don't see them as human beings.
So, they deserve contempt for just showing up in a peaceable manner? Yes, there have been people show up wearing t-shirts that showed their disagreement and never said a single word but were removed in a roughed up manner. Hell, his (Trump's) own publicist is being sued for roughing up a reporter.

You call it being PC, I call it showing other people respect. Something the Trump supporters don't have for other human beings. They, and you, are a very ugly group of people with horrible values.

Yes, we have progressed. Same sex couples can now get married. I know that just pisses off you and others like you. If it were up to you all, they would have no rights.

Trump is being attacked by the left and the right because they both see how despicable of a human being he is. BTW. the 78 year-old racist idiot that punched the protester being removed actually said, "I'll kill him next time". That is the kind of candidate and values you are supporting. Trump is doing nothing to condemn the violence. If he "were a leader" (to quote the idiot Ditka), he would publicly condemn the violence and be more patient and tolerant with the protesters. He is only making himself look like the idiot.
 
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Wow, just wow. Do you really believe what you post?

BLM inciting violence? Did BLM say "he needs punched in the face"? Did BLM or MoveOn say, "attack them, I'll pay your legal fees"? Does BLM say "get 'em outta here"?
I'm not surprised at all you like the way he deals with hecklers. It is very unprofessional. He could stand there and say "security, please remove them". That would show much more respect to other human beings. They are human beings, by the way. I know folks like you and Trump don't see them as human beings.
So, they deserve contempt for just showing up in a peaceable manner? Yes, there have been people show up wearing t-shirts that showed their disagreement and never said a single word but were removed in a roughed up manner. Hell, his (Trump's) own publicist is being sued for roughing up a reporter.

You call it being PC, I call it showing other people respect. Something the Trump supporters don't have for other human beings. They, and you, are a very ugly group of people with horrible values.

Yes, we have progressed. Same sex couples can now get married. I know that just pisses off you and others like you. If it were up to you all, they would have no rights.

Trump is being attacked by the left and the right because they both see how despicable of a human being he is. BTW. the 78 year-old racist idiot that punched the protester being removed actually said, "I'll kill him next time". That is the kind of candidate and values you are supporting. Trump is doing nothing to condemn the violence. If he "were a leader" (to quote the idiot Ditka), he would publicly condemn the violence and be more patient and tolerant with the protesters. He is only making himself look like the idiot.


Exactly! Trump is now saying he isn't "responsible" for the violence that takes place at his rallies by his supporters and that his words are not inciting violence. He's so out of touch it's not funny. And what's even worse is that millions of Americans are buying in to this crap. We are a better nation than this. I just hope we all survive this terrible nightmare.
 
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Wow, just wow. Do you really believe what you post?
BTW. the 78 year-old racist idiot that punched the protester being removed actually said, "I'll kill him next time". That is the kind of candidate and values you are supporting. Trump is doing nothing to condemn the violence. I

Maybe you are late to the news. Trump publicly disavowed what the 78 year old guy said and did. He also has publicly condemned any violence.
 
And what's even worse is that millions of Americans are buying in to this crap. I just hope we all survive this terrible nightmare.

Getting worried???? Months ago you said The Donald would not win any votes and now you are concerned about "millions of Americans". LMAO.....you of all people talking about being out of touch.
 
Maybe you are late to the news. Trump publicly disavowed what the 78 year old guy said and did. He also has publicly condemned any violence.

"carried out on a stretcher". "punch him in the face".

But he's not inciting violence. [laughing]

 
Show me where Trump EVER said anything bad about African Americans.

1. His birther movement against Obama
2. He questioned whether Obama was sharp enough for his Ivy League
3. His comment yesterday that the black protestors were not the ones who made America great.
4. The fact that he is looking into paying that redneck's legal fees for sucker punching that young black guy at his rally.
5. Comments about young black males wrongfully accused of crimes
 
"carried out on a stretcher". "punch him in the face".

But he's not inciting violence. [laughing]

Nice try.... but very lame. Trump never told anybody to "punch him in the face". Trump merely said he would like to "punch him in the face".
 
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1. His birther movement against Obama
2. He questioned whether Obama was sharp enough for his Ivy League
3. His comment yesterday that the black protestors were not the ones who made America great.
4. The fact that he is looking into paying that redneck's legal fees for sucker punching that young black guy at his rally.
5. Comments about young black males wrongfully accused of crimes

Maybe stupid but nothing racist, OH....by the way do you remember WHO planted the "birther movement " seeds in 2008? I guess you don't. Are you also saying that liberal Dems were racist when they demanded the school records of George Bush? I think Bush's are public record but Barrack's are STILL not part of the public record.
 
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I know who started that birther mess; racist on her part too.

Thanks for being honest. Does that and the "lets bring them to heel" comment disqualify her from being POTUS? I've said before that Trump is a loose cannon and will say anything to advance himself. That's why I've also repeatedly said he might quit or self destruct. My MAIN issue is the double standard that some apply.
 
I think she sucks; I think Trump sucks--I don't like the fact that people tolerate or promulgate racial division. I do believe that both of them are opportunists and that either will say or promote racially divisive ideas if suits their objective.
 
I think she sucks; I think Trump sucks--I don't like the fact that people tolerate or promulgate racial division. I do believe that both of them are opportunists and that either will say or promote racially divisive ideas if suits their objective.

Something we both can agree on......have a good night.
 
birther movement was racist? Is it racist against Cruz as well?

You call it being PC, I call it showing other people respect.

So what do you call it when people disrupt public speaking events? Showing respect? Or could that possibly be disrespectful?
 
Wow, just wow. Do you really believe what you post?

BLM inciting violence? Did BLM say "he needs punched in the face"? Did BLM or MoveOn say, "attack them, I'll pay your legal fees"? Does BLM say "get 'em outta here"?
I'm not surprised at all you like the way he deals with hecklers. It is very unprofessional. He could stand there and say "security, please remove them". That would show much more respect to other human beings. They are human beings, by the way. I know folks like you and Trump don't see them as human beings.
So, they deserve contempt for just showing up in a peaceable manner? Yes, there have been people show up wearing t-shirts that showed their disagreement and never said a single word but were removed in a roughed up manner. Hell, his (Trump's) own publicist is being sued for roughing up a reporter.

You call it being PC, I call it showing other people respect. Something the Trump supporters don't have for other human beings. They, and you, are a very ugly group of people with horrible values.

Yes, we have progressed. Same sex couples can now get married. I know that just pisses off you and others like you. If it were up to you all, they would have no rights.

Trump is being attacked by the left and the right because they both see how despicable of a human being he is. BTW. the 78 year-old racist idiot that punched the protester being removed actually said, "I'll kill him next time". That is the kind of candidate and values you are supporting. Trump is doing nothing to condemn the violence. If he "were a leader" (to quote the idiot Ditka), he would publicly condemn the violence and be more patient and tolerant with the protesters. He is only making himself look like the idiot.
So now I hate gays? Even though I've supported their cause for over a decade?

You really think BLM and MoveOn is there to act peaceably? You don't think they are there to promote and provoke violence? If you really believe that, you're more of a brainwashed moron than I thought you were. It would basically be the equivalent of a VaTech or Pitt fan walking into the middle of the student section and chanting "13-9"!! And then going home and talking about the mean WVU fans that beat his ass. You really are one dumb motherfvcker.
 
So now I hate gays? Even though I've supported their cause for over a decade?

You really think BLM and MoveOn is there to act peaceably? You don't think they are there to promote and provoke violence? If you really believe that, you're more of a brainwashed moron than I thought you were. It would basically be the equivalent of a VaTech or Pitt fan walking into the middle of the student section and chanting "13-9"!! And then going home and talking about the mean WVU fans that beat his ass. You really are one dumb motherfvcker.

Was the Selma March provoking violence? What about the Greensboro sit-ins? You could make an argument that every "march" or "protest" is provoking violence.


So what you are saying is by using your "13-9" comment, that you do not believe in free speech. And that if someone does yell something that isn't profane, and is protected by definition by the US Constitution, that they deserve to be beaten up for making the comment. Right?
 
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This is unbelievable...... but at least we know where you are coming from. Give me just ONE example of ANYTHING that Nixon did that created a division based on race. Seriously I worry about people like you that are totally clueless and base your wild ass assumptions on shit that has been spoon fed to you. As for me and my family, we DO respect others due to the quality of their character not the tint of their skin and not on bullshit based on political affiliations. Please tell me that your are not are gullible as you appear.
Really? You never heard of Nixon's Southern strategy? Look it up and get back to us. Unreal the ignorance for the whackos.
 
Suggesting that saying "Make America Great Again" is veiled racism is like saying that "Hard Worker" is veiled racism.

You may have multiple degrees... but something is lacking if you believe that. Actually... it's that mentality that is killing this country. That everything that is said has to be filtered through some absurd liberal filter.
It's the same as "take our country back" which is code for...there is a Black man in office and we need to change that". as much as the wingnuts hated Clinton, nobody was ever using that kind of language when he was President. Wonder why?
 
Was the Selma March provoking violence? What about the Greensboro sit-ins? You could make an argument that every "march" or "protest" is provoking violence.


So what you are saying is by using your "13-9" comment, that you do not believe in free speech. And that if someone does yell something that isn't profane, and is protected by definition by the US Constitution, that they deserve to be beaten up for making the comment. Right?
Trying to compare MoveOn and BLM to the 60s. Perspective, it's been lost.
 
It's the same as "take our country back" which is code for...there is a Black man in office and we need to change that". as much as the wingnuts hated Clinton, nobody was ever using that kind of language when he was President. Wonder why?
The problem with continuing to go to the well of racism is that it's now been used to try and win so many arguments where you are wrong that when you are right, it's ignored.

I'm now desensitized to it where before I used to care if some ignorant ass thought it. Now it's become so commonplace, it's recognized as the go to play and keyed on.
 
It's the same as "take our country back" which is code for...there is a Black man in office and we need to change that". as much as the wingnuts hated Clinton, nobody was ever using that kind of language when he was President. Wonder why?

For me, take back our country refers to the socialist move by the President and the dems, not that there's a black man in the Presidents seat. That's just me. I don't care for anybody who thinks that socialism is a great form of govt. it has proven it's not and actually an impediment to being a great country. FYI, Sanders is much more dangerous than Obama as a President. His leanings are much more radical.
 
For me, take back our country refers to the socialist move by the President and the dems, not that there's a black man in the Presidents seat. That's just me. I don't care for anybody who thinks that socialism is a great form of govt. it has proven it's not and actually an impediment to being a great country. FYI, Sanders is much more dangerous than Obama as a President. His leanings are much more radical.
I think those people who try to make that ludicrous statement of it being because he is black likely voted for him because he was black. They're actually the true racists although they'll never acknowledge it. They can't understand how easily it is to separate platform and policy from the individual. Their inability to do it shows their racism.

It's actually quite funny to watch them flounder in their failure.
 
It's the same as "take our country back" which is code for...there is a Black man in office and we need to change that". as much as the wingnuts hated Clinton, nobody was ever using that kind of language when he was President. Wonder why?

Holy shit... just go back and look at past campaign slogans. To try and make that equation is absolutely absurd and is everything that is wrong with America.
 
Hell, the absurd could argue Hillary's slogan of "Fighting for us" is inciting violence, which if Trump had used that slogan we all know the left would argue.
 
I think those people who try to make that ludicrous statement of it being because he is black likely voted for him because he was black. They're actually the true racists although they'll never acknowledge it. They can't understand how easily it is to separate platform and policy from the individual. Their inability to do it shows their racism.

It's actually quite funny to watch them flounder in their failure.

Exactly, I would gladly have supported Herman Cain over B. Obama because I believe in free enterprise and not socialism.
 
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