It was dismissed from court because it was a very bad attempt to extort money and nothing more. There was no case. Your butthurt for Rich Rod is obvious....
Thank you Neal Brown
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I don't really think about him at all..but my opinion is that he has a better chance of coaching at Marshall than he does at WVU...
Also, Nick Saban is a complete snake..every recruiting class has been either #1 or top 3 for over ten years and he does this
“We can go ahead and say it now. (Zach) Frazier had a heavy, heavy offer from Alabama this offseason, but he decided to stay at West Virginia.”- Tony Caridi
that is a tampering violation..players can't be approached until after they enter the portal..I thought that former CIA employee the NCAA hired was supposed to start enforcing this.it doesn't appear that he's accomplished very much
Also, Nick Saban is a complete snake..every recruiting class has been either #1 or top 3 for over ten years and he does this
“We can go ahead and say it now. (Zach) Frazier had a heavy, heavy offer from Alabama this offseason, but he decided to stay at West Virginia.”- Tony Caridi
that is a tampering violation..players can't be approached until after they enter the portal..I thought that former CIA employee the NCAA hired was supposed to start enforcing this.it doesn't appear that he's accomplished very much
Let me know when teams actually follow the NCAA rules.
Army, Navy, and Air Force do..that may be it..which begs the question..when are they going to do something?
make the penalty so severe that teams wouldn't dream of doing anything like that...give'em the SMU treatment..not elegible for bowls or league championships for 5 years..reduce scholarships to 60 etc
make the penalty so severe that teams wouldn't dream of doing anything like that...give'em the SMU treatment..not elegible for bowls or league championships for 5 years..reduce scholarships to 60 etc
The silly rule is not allowing a team to be bowl eligible because they moved up from FCS to FBS and no matter the record they have to wait a year.
Personally I think the NCAA is a corrupt organization and needs dismantled. Time to start over with something new. If that's a commissioner of college sports then so be it. But that would take a lot of man power to over see all the college teams.
no kidding..even when they enforce the rules it's a total screw up..according to the NCAA there was no national champion for 2004..when USC was stripped of the title does 13-0 Auburn get to claim it? hell to the no
The NCAA is out of hand for sure. They have been damaging to pretty much all of the sports. I hope someone does something about it.
Are you surprised? At this point, there’s just too much money involved and available. Fairness, if there ever was any, is gone. It’s about winning. Nothing less. Integrity, morals do not matter now. We all need to accept this tough reality.
Average home attendance:
1991- 48,669
1992- 49,280
1994- (following an undefeated 1993)- 51,720
2001- 48,323
2002- 52,413
2003- 52,205
2013- 52,910
2015- 54,826
2023- 51,156
I was unaware Brown has been with the program since 1991. This years attendance is within hundreds of a year following an undefeated season. This has much less to do with Brown and more about our "fans."
Mountaineer Field has occasionally hosted larger crowds than its listed capacity of 60,000, the current attendance record was set on November 20, 1993 when 70,222 fans packed the stadium to watch the #9 ranked Mountaineers defeat #4 Miami.
Attendance has been dropping in all sports across the nation. Job market in WV as well as population is on a downward trend. These also speak to why the crowds have been smaller and ticket sales have been less. Why would anyone buy season tickets or one game ticket when they can sit on their couch or recliner and watch the game from the warmth of their own home. Putting every game on TV has taken a lot away from college attendance.
It matters who you play at home.
By Bob Hertzel:
Taken overall, it was hardly disastrous for West Virginia, ranking 33rd in the nation in 5-year average attendance of 44,032, a figure drastically lowered by the COVID year of 2020, but that affected all schools.
WVU over the last five years has played at just 73.4% of its stadium capacity. Of the 14 teams that will make up the “new Big 12” competing this year before Texas and Oklahoma leave for the SEC, that is lower than any schools other than Kansas and Houston.
The Mountaineers have gone from an average of 58,158 five years ago in 2018 to 55,907 to the COVID year of 6,653 per game to 51,584 in 2021 and just 47,658 last year.
The 47,658 is the lowest home attendance other than in the COVID year since 2001 when Rich Rodriguez’s team averaged 48,323 per game.
last season’s largest crowd was 52,188 for the home opener against Kansas. By the time they got to the season’s final game at home against Kansas State the attendance was 37,055.
Since 2002, WVU has drawn at least one crowd of 60,000 every year other than 2013 when the biggest crowd was 58,570 and last year when only 51,288 came to the top game.
Baker warns not to read too much into such numbers but notes they can’t be brushed aside, either.
Attendance has been dropping in all sports across the nation. Job market in WV as well as population is on a downward trend. These also speak to why the crowds have been smaller and ticket sales have been less. Why would anyone buy season tickets or one game ticket when they can sit on their couch or recliner and watch the game from the warmth of their own home. Putting every game on TV has taken a lot away from college attendance.
It matters who you play at home.
By Bob Hertzel:
Taken overall, it was hardly disastrous for West Virginia, ranking 33rd in the nation in 5-year average attendance of 44,032, a figure drastically lowered by the COVID year of 2020, but that affected all schools.
WVU over the last five years has played at just 73.4% of its stadium capacity. Of the 14 teams that will make up the “new Big 12” competing this year before Texas and Oklahoma leave for the SEC, that is lower than any schools other than Kansas and Houston.
The Mountaineers have gone from an average of 58,158 five years ago in 2018 to 55,907 to the COVID year of 6,653 per game to 51,584 in 2021 and just 47,658 last year.
The 47,658 is the lowest home attendance other than in the COVID year since 2001 when Rich Rodriguez’s team averaged 48,323 per game.
last season’s largest crowd was 52,188 for the home opener against Kansas. By the time they got to the season’s final game at home against Kansas State the attendance was 37,055.
Since 2002, WVU has drawn at least one crowd of 60,000 every year other than 2013 when the biggest crowd was 58,570 and last year when only 51,288 came to the top game.
Baker warns not to read too much into such numbers but notes they can’t be brushed aside, either.
Mountaineer fans have always been very fickle to say it mildly. Many are fair weather fans only showing up when things are good. If we start winning, more and more will show up. When we are winning and have a team and players getting national attention, even more will show up and claim they are the greatest fans ever and never turn their backs. Just blatant lies. Have many family members and friends that are that way for over 40 years. I give them hell constantly for their actions.
You dont sound like a very fun person to be a fan with lol. Every fan base is like that and it will never change. Kleenex.com can help you out....
In 2022, total attendance rose for the third time in the last four years to 37,237,555. Not surprisingly, the top 50 crowds from 2022 were posted exclusively in Big 12, SEC and Big Ten stadiums. Those crowds were isolated to only seven stadiums: Michigan, Penn State, Texas A&M, Ohio State, Texas, LSU and Alabama.
Ranking for attendance
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 73.39%
2022 Average Attendance: 47,658
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 79.43%
A team this board loves to chat about is only...(guess winning can't cure everyone's attendance.
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 59.19%
2022 Average Attendance: 20,954
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 83.82%
Even the great Rod couldn't fix these fans....
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 63.45%
2022 Average Attendance: 18,161
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 75.67%
Worst Big 12 team
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 57.00%
2022 Average Attendance: 24,793
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 61.98%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 49.03%
2022 Average Attendance: 43,076
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 85.72%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 71.00%
2022 Average Attendance: 38,451
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 76.33%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 81.05%
2022 Average Attendance: 41,542
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 93.97%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 79.04%
2022 Average Attendance: 46,562
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 101.22%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 83.66%
2022 Average Attendance: 45,563
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 100.94%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 82.80%
2022 Average Attendance: 51,165
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 102.33%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 83.15%
2022 Average Attendance: 54,735
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 98.61%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 76.78%
2022 Average Attendance: 57,149
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 94.53%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 79.03%
2022 Average Attendance: 57,344
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 93.24%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 78.40%
2022 Average Attendance: 59,674
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 94.02%
The two leaving
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 88.44%
2022 Average Attendance: 83,835
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 104.63%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 80.57%
2022 Average Attendance: 100,242
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 100.12%
The 4 new guys
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 58.53%
2022 Average Attendance: 43,081
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 67.05%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 73.62%
2022 Average Attendance: 42,847
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 85.38%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 61.17%
2022 Average Attendance: 44,209
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 82.41%
5-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 76.46%
2022 Average Attendance: 52,057
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 101.19%
WVU will be 5th out 16 in attendance in the new Big 12
Ranking for attendance
33 West Virginia
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 44,031.805-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 73.39%
2022 Average Attendance: 47,658
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 79.43%
A team this board loves to chat about is only...(guess winning can't cure everyone's attendance.
103 Liberty
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 14,798.205-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 59.19%
2022 Average Attendance: 20,954
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 83.82%
Even the great Rod couldn't fix these fans....
98 Jacksonville State
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 15,228.45-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 63.45%
2022 Average Attendance: 18,161
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 75.67%
Worst Big 12 team
73 Houston
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 22,802.005-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 57.00%
2022 Average Attendance: 24,793
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 61.98%
71 Kansas
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 24,636.805-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 49.03%
2022 Average Attendance: 43,076
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 85.72%
59 Cincinnati
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 28,625.205-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 71.00%
2022 Average Attendance: 38,451
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 76.33%
49 UCF
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 35,828.205-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 81.05%
2022 Average Attendance: 41,542
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 93.97%
47 TCU
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 36,358.405-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 79.04%
2022 Average Attendance: 46,562
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 101.22%
42 Baylor
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 37,762.405-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 83.66%
2022 Average Attendance: 45,563
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 100.94%
38 Kansas State
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 41,402.005-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 82.80%
2022 Average Attendance: 51,165
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 102.33%
31 Oklahoma State
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 46,154.405-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 83.15%
2022 Average Attendance: 54,735
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 98.61%
29 Texas Tech
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 46,418.205-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 76.78%
2022 Average Attendance: 57,149
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 94.53%
24 Iowa State
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 48,604.405-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 79.03%
2022 Average Attendance: 57,344
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 93.24%
23 BYU
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 49,758.405-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 78.40%
2022 Average Attendance: 59,674
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 94.02%
The two leaving
11 Oklahoma
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 70,864.205-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 88.44%
2022 Average Attendance: 83,835
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 104.63%
7 Texas
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 80,667.605-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 80.57%
2022 Average Attendance: 100,242
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 100.12%
The 4 new guys
43 Arizona State
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 37,602.005-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 58.53%
2022 Average Attendance: 43,081
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 67.05%
45 Colorado
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 36,942.605-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 73.62%
2022 Average Attendance: 42,847
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 85.38%
53 Arizona
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 32,815.405-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 61.17%
2022 Average Attendance: 44,209
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 82.41%
40 Utah
2018-2022 Attendance Average: 39,333.605-Year Filled Stadium Capacity 76.46%
2022 Average Attendance: 52,057
2022 Filled Stadium Capacity 101.19%
WVU will be 5th out 16 in attendance in the new Big 12
2004 WVU went 8-4. Home games were:
59,100
60,300
56,600
52,900
52,100
58,100
We lost 5000+ or so fans after we lost to VT on the road that year. The last game against a ranked Boston College team. I guess winning matters.
2005
54,600 showed up for Wofford
57,200 for East Carolina
60,193 for VT
59,800 for Louisville
52,800 for Uconn
52,900 for the dreaded Spitt game
Looks to me like when WVU is better and has better coaching they can easily sell 10,000+ more tickets than they do under Brown.
59,100
60,300
56,600
52,900
52,100
58,100
We lost 5000+ or so fans after we lost to VT on the road that year. The last game against a ranked Boston College team. I guess winning matters.
2005
54,600 showed up for Wofford
57,200 for East Carolina
60,193 for VT
59,800 for Louisville
52,800 for Uconn
52,900 for the dreaded Spitt game
Looks to me like when WVU is better and has better coaching they can easily sell 10,000+ more tickets than they do under Brown.
Listening to Nehlen's interview the day before he was honored was an eye opener...he said when offered the WVU job Bo Schembechler told him...don't take it Don, just don't..hang around here for awhile and I'll get you a good job..I don't think you can win there
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Well, he definitely proved you can win here. I’m thankful he took the job. He paved the road of success that Rodriguez was able to work from.
20 years ago is your comparison. Why didn't you go back to 1980 as well.
What was the cost of season tickets and one ticket game price? In 2007 - 2009 the cost was...
By Mike Casazza
2016
Season ticket prices are the same for a third straight season - $325 (for seven games) with five $45 tickets and two $50 tickets and an average price of $46.43.
Two years ago, the average ticket was $46.67, but WVU only had six home games and a season ticket cost $280.
In addition to the price, a seat in every color-coded section other than green requires a gift to the Mountaineer Athletic Club - $375 for red, $200 for gold and $100 for orange.
If people want to stay in their 2008 seats, if they want to add to what they've ordered in the past, they have to make a gift.
Wells knows people aren't entirely happy with the idea or the choice of words.
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The most recent expansion actually reduced the seating capacity by 3,500
| Renovated | 2004, 2007, 2016 |
|---|---|
| Expanded | 1985, 1986 |
Looks like Don Nehlen dominates the attendance...
| Rank | Attendance | Date | Game result |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 70,222 | Nov. 20, 1993 | #9 West Virginia 17, #4 Miami 14 |
| 2 | 68,938 | Sept 30, 1989 | #9 West Virginia 31, #10 Pitt 31 |
| 3 | 68,409 | Sept 5, 1998 | #11 West Virginia 17, #1 Ohio State 34 |
| 4 | 68,041 | Aug 31, 1991 | West Virginia 3, Pitt 34 |
| 5 | 67,715 | Nov 15, 2003 | West Virginia 52, #16 Pitt 31 |
| 6 | 66,948 | Oct 26, 1996 | #12 West Virginia 7, #25 Miami 10 |
| 7 | 66,811 | Oct 29, 1988 | #7 West Virginia 51, Penn State 30 |
| 8 | 66,663 | Oct 24, 1992 | West Virginia 26, #14 Penn State 40 |
| 9 | 66,461 | Nov 3, 1990 | West Virginia 19, #24 Penn State 31 |
| 10 | 66,015 | Sept 16, 1989 | #12 West Virginia 45, South Carolina 21 |
Because that is when we were at the level we can be, and should be. That is the level of play and excitement we should always be striving for.20 years ago is your comparison. Why didn't you go back to 1980 as well.
What was the cost of season tickets and one ticket game price? In 2007 - 2009 the cost was...
By Mike Casazza
2016
Season ticket prices are the same for a third straight season - $325 (for seven games) with five $45 tickets and two $50 tickets and an average price of $46.43.
Two years ago, the average ticket was $46.67, but WVU only had six home games and a season ticket cost $280.
In addition to the price, a seat in every color-coded section other than green requires a gift to the Mountaineer Athletic Club - $375 for red, $200 for gold and $100 for orange.
If people want to stay in their 2008 seats, if they want to add to what they've ordered in the past, they have to make a gift.
Wells knows people aren't entirely happy with the idea or the choice of words.
In 2023 Blue Zone. Annual MAC Gift per seat minimum: $500. Season Ticket Cost: $365 ; Red Zone. Annual MAC Gift per seat minimum: $425 Season
2025 Season Ticket Central
Secure your 2025 season tickets and parking passes today!seasontickets.wvusports.com
The most recent expansion actually reduced the seating capacity by 3,500
Renovated
2004, 2007, 2016
Expanded
1985, 1986
Looks like Don Nehlen dominates the attendance...
Rank
Attendance
Date
Game result
1
70,222
Nov. 20, 1993
#9 West Virginia 17, #4 Miami 14
2
68,938
Sept 30, 1989
#9 West Virginia 31, #10 Pitt 31
3
68,409
Sept 5, 1998
#11 West Virginia 17, #1 Ohio State 34
4
68,041
Aug 31, 1991
West Virginia 3, Pitt 34
5
67,715
Nov 15, 2003
West Virginia 52, #16 Pitt 31
6
66,948
Oct 26, 1996
#12 West Virginia 7, #25 Miami 10
7
66,811
Oct 29, 1988
#7 West Virginia 51, Penn State 30
8
66,663
Oct 24, 1992
West Virginia 26, #14 Penn State 40
9
66,461
Nov 3, 1990
West Virginia 19, #24 Penn State 31
10
66,015
Sept 16, 1989
#12 West Virginia 45, South Carolina 21
And you would be wrong as usual. That level began with Don Nehlen . Those that became fans under Rod era have no idea the history of WVU.
Those who dont hate Rich Rod can see the clear difference on how he elevated the program from where Don put it. He took it to new levels. Rich Rod is the best football coach WVU has ever had.
3rd best and your assessment of fans have never been so off. Could be because you're too young to understand the fight before 2001.
I think it's
1.) Rodriguez
2.) Don Nehlen
3.). Art Lewis
4.) Bobby Bowden
5.) Jim Carlen
I wouldn't say assembling a team that won ten games 3 years in a row was choking on anything.
Allen lost his logic when it comes to talking certain topics. Rich Rod is one of them.
