I would say Don understands the problems perfectly. I would say it's you who is out of touch with reality. You make statements how we have done more with less in the past. We have never proven that we can do that in the age of the transfer portal, NiL, Big 12. The fact is that the majority of Wvu's wins regardless of who has been the coach has come against the bottom or middle half of the conference. Before the season started the Nostradamus's said the Duquesne game was the only sure win. In the days of the Big East we had about 4 sure wins a year. When we first entered the Big 12 we had Iowa State and Kansas now those programs have improved. Don maybe old but I'm sure he has more reasonable expectations than you have.
Ok, then tell me, Why did WVU give up on Coach Stewart? He averaged 9 wins. Sincerely, asking a legit question.
You live on a message board bitching constantly that a game being played by 19-year olds is making you really unhappy.
What does Stewart have to do with Brown? Boy are you reaching. You realize the people that made those decisions are no longer there and we were in a different conference. What point exactly are you trying to make, because I dont see one.
So our expectations have diminished? Ok, got it. That makes more sense than anything. Thanks for clarifying
I will answer for you I think Bill Stewart greatly underachieved. He was the only coach that walked into a readymade situation. Wvu was the Oklahoma and Texas of the Big East that Stewart inherited. He had teams that were pretty much guaranteed to win 8-9 games at a minimum. He lost 4 games in each of his 3 seasons when he probably should have only lost two a year at the most. If he would have won 9 games with the schedules, we play today I would say he did a much better than average job. I think Bill Stewart is the kind of coach that would win 3 or 4 games a year if he were coaching a Big 12 team.
Some of the seasons in the Big East we were playing 3-4 teams a year that were only winning 2-3 games a year. Quite a big difference than what we have to deal with today.
Nice post....I have just so many ways I could respond to that...maybe you should bake yourself some chocolate chip cookies and celebrate...you know..that head coach Neal Brown and the rest of our crack coaching staff will be intact next season!..Lets !!! Go!!!!
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There’s one problem with this, how do you explain WVU beating ranked teams? What about OOC games against schools like Maryland? It’s not like WVU was struggling with William Mary and Richmond and getting blown off the field by Oklahoma like we are now. How did Nehlen walk into Norman in 1982 and win? I’m sorry, this theory doesn’t work. For whatever anyone thinks of Stewart, he won and averaged 9 wins his entire tenure. Why wasn’t that good enough, but Brown struggling and unable to reach that level is ok?
MD, LSU, Auburn were those games...we had five non-conference games..now there's three and two of those are Penn St and Pitt..
I don't know. I was against that decision. Still, pressure was put on Brown to do better, and he did. So firing him for doing better is the right thing to do?
Team is 7-4 and all this garbage talk of one play from 9-3 is pure BS. They are 7-4 plain and simple. If you want play this one play away from crap game WVU was also a play away from 2 other losses and would be 5-6 needing a win against Baylor to be bowl eligible.
The problem is Wvu rarely beats ranked teams regardless of who the coach is. The Oklahoma game in Norman in 82 was the exception it wasn't the norm. That Oklahoma team was 8-4 and finished 16th they weren't competing for a conference championship. What was Nehlen's record against Penn State? The years that he did beat PSU what was PSU's Record? Remember the Home game against Miami in 86. Miami won 58-14 that year. With the exception of a few years here and there most of Wvu's wins came at the expense of beating programs that are inferior to us. The 1982 win at Norman was the exception the 2005 Sugar Bowl and 2007 Fiesta Bowl were very rare exceptions The traditional Norm for Wvu prior to the Big 12 was to beat 4-5 programs that were below us and maybe 2-3 on our same level and hopefully 1 or 2 above us. The problem today is we aren't playing 4-5 teams that are significantly below us. We are playing teams that are slightly below us to on the same plane and 3 or so above us.
a simple answer would be to say it's possible that winning eight games in this league is equivalent to ten wins in the BE..but there is really no way to prove that since rosters change so much every year....TCU was in the national championship game last year and Cincinnati was in the playoffs two years ago
I know you’re being funny, but there’s many of us who actually wish you were right
Comprehension isn't your strong point is it...if you think coaching in 2007 like Stewart did is the same as Brown is is 2023....you really are low IQ.
Yawns......
So coaches in 2007 are now obsolete. Obviously, You are low IQ
Um ok
OMG are you really this low IQ? You can link where anyone said anything about being obsolete...We will all wait.
I know right. I wasnt really on bring Rich back bandwagon until recently, but the more I think about it the more I like it.
So you can't answer the question. I assumed it would be to tough for you....nice deflection when you are proven wrong.
ok....So that means you are engaging with an underage person on a message board....what are you exactly?
Lol Based on his replies, I’d say he wasn’t born yet to know anything about WVU besides the Holgorsen and Brown era.
OMG That is so funny.LMAO...LMAO...LMAO!
If you really think about it, letting Rich Rod finish what he started here makes more sense than anything. He will coach better here than he would anywhere else because he knows he messed up by leaving even though he had a lot of reasons to, and he wants more than anything to rectify it.
There were a lot of people (people you would call fake fans) who thought Stew was in over his head, and they were probably right. I loved Bill, but he was in over his head. He needed to nail it on the OC/DC hires and he didnt, and that was it. His Mullen offense would have been the laughing stock of the B12. Luck bailed WVU out of a bad situation that no one wanted to be in. Without him I dont know if we get into a good conference when the Big East got killed. Holgs wasnt the best hire, but he was way better than what we got now and way better than Bill would have been. Bill was an emotional hire that should have never happened.
They were 2 blocked FG away from losing at TCU and a final drive ended at the WVU 11 from losing 2 more....FACT
The 2 most glaring facts of the Neal Brown era
He will be in the Hall of Fame. He is the best coach WVU ever had, and if Luck was the AD when Rich was here, he might not have left. He asked for raises for his assistant coaches. Ed said no. He wanted facility upgrades. Ed said no. He didnt want to play Marshall. Ed and Joe Manchin did it anyway. Maybe it doesnt go down that way if Luck was AD then, but UM gave him a huge raise on top of it. Where he really messed up is not having a press conference. He is the best coach WVU ever had.
