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Schiff memo was a lie - but the Nunes memo was political half truth too

Remember that time you tried to claim they had “the wrong Carter Page?”

LMAO!

I never said that. I said they had the wrong Michael Cohen in Prague. And they did, regardless of what Steele's shill published.

Remember that time you claimed the IG Report would exonerate trump and show a deep state conspiracy within the FBI and DOJ?

LOL!

We never saw reports #3 and #4 that were supposed to come out. It's not over.
 
That makes sense I guess. I’m just tired of the waiting, there’s a lot at stake, imo

Not Mueller, Democrats.

“Some things maybe the public shouldn’t see because they are so bad,” Trump said, making clear it wasn’t damaging to him, but to others. “Maybe it’s better that the public not see what’s been going on with this country.”

https://nypost.com/2018/11/28/trump-threatens-to-declassify-devastating-docs-about-democrats

I don't like it. This isn't a topic to play political football with. Clean the damn house, that includes informing the public.
 
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Not Mueller, Democrats.

“Some things maybe the public shouldn’t see because they are so bad,” Trump said, making clear it wasn’t damaging to him, but to others. “Maybe it’s better that the public not see what’s been going on with this country.”

https://nypost.com/2018/11/28/trump-threatens-to-declassify-devastating-docs-about-democrats

I don't like it. This isn't a topic to play political football with. Clean the damn house, that includes informing the public.
I agree. Although I’m not convinced (of course) that the information damages Obama’s Democratic harem, any which way.....I want this nastiness cleaned the fvck up
 
Problem is? We've got an idiot in the WH who needs oversight. Go Deepstate!!
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Lol, Trumps rubes will follow him all the way down the drain, got too much of their own insecurities wrapped up in his bullshit by now.
 
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a pathetic political attempt to cover Trump and advance a career. I’m sure no wingnuts onnthiss board will admit it, but all of the narratives created from these lies over the last year are total Bullsh1t. I’m not saying the FBI or the Obama administration didn’t make mistakes, or that Trump collusion occurred....but I am saying the Nunes memo and the faux outrage exhibited by Nunes and Trump are complete lies.

To attempt to discredit the DOJ just to provide political cover for a man with the character of Trump? This shouldn’t be ok for anyone

He is the classic tool....and once DJT was done with him you haven't heard a peep about Nunes.
 
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Lol, Trumps rubes will follow him all the way down the drain, got too much of their own insecurities wrapped up in his bullshit by now.

Trump supporters aren't voting for his insecurities... they're voting for the success of his policies. So which one is the biggest failure that the Left is ready to correct and with what?

Know what's going to be funny? Watching how little you have to say in answer to this compared to how much you otherwise have to say about your own hatred for Trump based on nothing other than your personal feelings.

Why don't you try just once to point out something policy-wise or substance based that gives focus to your irrational uncontrollable hatred for this man.

Just one policy you think the Left can do better on and how...go ahead, see if you can try it?
 
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Trump supporters aren't voting for his insecurities... they're voting for the success of his policies. So which one is the biggest failure that the Left is ready to correct and with what?

Know what's going to be funny? Watching how little you have to say in answer to this compared to how much you otherwise have to say about your own hatred for Trump based on nothing other than your personal feelings.

Why don't you try just once to point out something policy-wise or substance based that gives focus to your irrational uncontrollable hatred for this man.

Just one policy you think the Left can do better on and how...go ahead, see if you can try it?
 
Hahahahahaha...success of his policies!! Rich even for you. Let’s see ATL:
No repeal and replacement of Obamacare
No wall
No deal on DACA
No new promised infrastructure
Lots of new debt
Indictments galore and more to come
Millions facing starvation in Yemen because trump loves himself some MBS.
No 4-5% annual GDP
Farmers struggling
GM closing plants

I’ll stop typing and wait for your super response
 
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Hahahahahaha...success of his policies!! Rich even for you. Let’s see ATL:
No repeal and replacement of Obamacare
No wall
No deal on DACA
No new promised infrastructure
Lots of new debt
Indictments galore and more to come
Millions facing starvation in Yemen because trump loves himself some MBS.
No 4-5% annual GDP
Farmers struggling
GM closing plants

I’ll stop typing and wait for your super response

Great OM1! That's really fantastic. Now why don't you just pick one of those and name the Left's superior alternative to it?

I'll start.... what's the Left's proposal to get GDP above 4%? What's the legislation Nancy will get her caucus to advance that Trump can sign?
 
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No repeal and replacement of Obamacare
If it weren't for John McCain it would have been repealed the individual mandate was repealed and there's nothing saying that new legislation won't be introduced in the future to repeal it. I don't see any Democrats running on expanding it except through Medicare which is already bankrupt and in debt.

Partial funding has been approved Democrats oppose the rest of it and what's the alternative from the Left? No borders no wall no USA at all!

No deal on DACA

There was a deal on DACA and Democrats turned it down because it included funding for the wall! What's their alternative amnesty for all?

No new promised infrastructure

Correct, nothing's been passed yet but neither has a budget let's see what comes up in the next fiscal year allocation for infrastructure? I think even you Leftists might sign on to that!

Lots of new debt
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Correct, we have lots of new debt and also lots of new revenue. When are we going to start matching the spending to the revenue that comes in instead of spending more than the new revenue that comes in? How much in spending cuts are the Democrats proposing?

Indictments galore and more to come

Trump wasn't running on indictments and Democrats accused him of "collusion" with the Russians. We're still waiting for the evidence of that indictment to come down... is it even a crime?

Millions facing starvation in Yemen because trump loves himself some MBS.

I don't even know what the Hell this has to do with Trump's agenda? How about Isis decimated and on the run? Korea agreeing to nuclear disarmament? Isn't that a little bit better in terms of foreign policy achievement?

No 4-5% annual GDP

We don't have 4.5% GDP yet but what we've got is a hell of a lot better than less than 3% we had for the last 8 years! What's the Democrat's plan to get it above 3% much less where it is right now?

Farmers struggling

Farmers aren't struggling they're looking forward to the new Canada US Mexico trade agreement and the one currently being negotiated with China where they won't need taxpayer money to survive and they can sell overseas without huge subsidies or facing huge taxes from Socialists.

GM closing plants

Yes GM announced the closing of some manufacturing operations are you forgetting about all the other ones that are coming back from overseas? What about Volvo, Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota, Mazda, BMW and others who have decided to shift their operations to US manufacturing?

You did a great job listing what you perceive as Trump's failures but I don't see one post from you (or anyone else on the Left) about better Democrat alternatives.

Why not?
 
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what's the Left's proposal to get GDP above 4%? What's the legislation Nancy will get her caucus to advance that Trump can sign?

Hey @Original Mountaineer1 Dude you vanished from this thread like illegals hiding out from ICE in sanctuary cities!

I’ll stop typing and wait for your super response


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You did a great job listing what you perceive as Trump's failures but I don't see one post from you (or anyone else on the Left) about better Democrat alternatives.

Why not?
 
a pathetic political attempt to cover Trump and advance a career. I’m sure no wingnuts onnthiss board will admit it, but all of the narratives created from these lies over the last year are total Bullsh1t. I’m not saying the FBI or the Obama administration didn’t make mistakes, or that Trump collusion occurred....but I am saying the Nunes memo and the faux outrage exhibited by Nunes and Trump are complete lies.

To attempt to discredit the DOJ just to provide political cover for a man with the character of Trump? This shouldn’t be ok for anyone
So when can I expect you to admit you were wrong here?
 
The application doesn’t claim anything unverified (as far as we know- with the redactions). Unverified in public doesn’t mean that it wasn’t verified by the FBI or CIA....and how those facts were verified would be redacted due to an ongoing investigation.

Unmasking of sources.

You absolutely are speculating that the ONLY entail information from the dossier, or at least speculating that the information was not relevant in proving a FISA application was valid. I am speculating also, that the redacted information is relevant to the application and not portions of the dossier.

Per Ohr, they didn't even attempt to verify until 2017. That's 2 FISA apps in, minimum. Are you good with that? I'll write up a dossier on Boom, what could go wrong?
 
Per Ohr, they didn't even attempt to verify until 2017. That's 2 FISA apps in, minimum. Are you good with that? I'll write up a dossier on Boom, what could go wrong?
Havent heard any suggestions that Lisa page lied to Congress so its fair to assume if asked about this ahe confirmed the same information Ohr did.
 
So when can I expect you to admit you were wrong here?

Hell will freeze over before he admits to being wrong about anything Dave. It's against the law of relativism. Nothing can ever be totally or really "wrong" because nothing is ever totally, irrefutably, metaphysically, certainly, absolutely, factually, correct...except Socialism has always failed miserably everywhere it's been tried.

But he won't even admit to that! [eyeroll]
 
Hell will freeze over before he admits to being wrong about anything Dave. It's against the law of relativism. Nothing can ever be totally or really "wrong" because nothing is ever totally irrefutably metaphysically, certainly, absolutely, factually, correct...except Socialism has always failed miserably everywhere it's even been tried.

But he won't even admit to that! [eyeroll]
Hell will have to freeze over for him to realize catastrophic global warming is a myth.
 
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Per Ohr, they didn't even attempt to verify until 2017. That's 2 FISA apps in, minimum. Are you good with that? I'll write up a dossier on Boom, what could go wrong?

Micheal Steele himself said it (dossier) was "unverified". The FBI fired him later but even they knew about his fake ass dossier before they canned his leakin' ass. They still submitted it as evidence for that FISA warrant...knowing full well he and it were both FOS! Rosenfraud knew too...and his lyin' ass signed off on all four FISA apps! They're all in it thick as thieves.
 
Micheal Steele himself said it (dossier) was "unverified". The FBI fired him later but even they knew about his fake ass dossier before they canned his leakin' ass. They still submitted it as evidence for that FISA warrant...knowing full well he and it were both FOS! Rosenfraud knew too...and his lyin' ass signed off on all four FISA apps! They're all in it thick as thieves.
Rosenstein had to do it to try and protect his own ass. The Mueller investigation was his insurance policy.
 
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