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PLEASE COME TO A SETTLEMENT AFTER THE GAME AND WALK AWAY

I think you let him finish the year and that is it. You gain nothing firing him now. One of his assistants would be interim and run the same system and we would still lose. They just need to start putting feelers out now
 
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I think you let him finish the year and that is it. You gain nothing firing him now. One of his assistants would be interim and run the same system and we would still lose. They just need to start putting feelers out now
You can begin negotiations with the next coach (ex. Jimbo Fisher) now and get a jump on other teams looking for coaches next year. Perhaps they have already been in contact? I just don't want to see him on the sideline again.
 
You can begin negotiations with the next coach (ex. Jimbo Fisher) now and get a jump on other teams looking for coaches next year. Perhaps they have already been in contact? I just don't want to see him on the sideline again.
Cignetti should be approached. I understand we could have gotten him when he was at JMU, maybe won't be as good getting him away from IU and Big 10. Hell, I'd even take DickRod -
 
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I remember people saying Kentucky was going to steal him. I remember sitting there shaking my head like wtf, yeah right lol!! Neil Brown should be coaching Frostburg State University. I can't believe people still support this jackass.
 
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Cignetti should be approached. I understand we could have gotten him when he was at JMU, maybe won't be as good getting him away from IU and Big 10. Hell, I'd even take DickRod -

Just like I said with Holgorsen, it's not a binary choice of "new coach" vs Brown. It is 2 separate choices. Getting rid of Brown is the easy choice. Who we hire is a completely second choice and I wouldn't be so quick to hire a one hit wonder (RR) nor a Les Miles who has a premium price tag and every incentive to rest on his laurels (Jimbo).
 
Just like I said with Holgorsen, it's not a binary choice of "new coach" vs Brown. It is 2 separate choices. Getting rid of Brown is the easy choice. Who we hire is a completely second choice and I wouldn't be so quick to hire a one hit wonder (RR) nor a Les Miles who has a premium price tag and every incentive to rest on his laurels (Jimbo).
For once I'd like to see us hire a premium guy.
 
Brown was one of the best available at the time according to many "experts." The fact is that nobody knows if a coach will be able to duplicate the same success they had at another program until after the fact.
Exactly. The problem we have is the inability or stubbornness to pull the plug when it’s time. 6 years is way more time than nearly any other similar program would wait. Typically it’s 3-4 years and that’s it. And signing extensions twice for this performance is ludicrous
 
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Brown was one of the best available at the time according to many "experts." The fact is that nobody knows if a coach will be able to duplicate the same success they had at another program until after the fact.

It is true that you don't really know when hiring an up and coming coach if he can succeed on a bigger stage. It is also true that you have a pretty accurate picture by the 3rd season of what kind of coach you do have. I had hopes for Brown when he was hired after seeing how he talked about football fundamentals and defense which was always Holgorsen led teams' weakness. But after only scant improvement from year 1 to year 2 followed by regression in year 3, I was down on him. I don't care about COVID, portals, or even biblical plagues of Egypt, next guy gets 3-4 years max to show something better than Holgorsen did. If not, move on. WVU is not so low of a program that we cannot expect a coach to come in to the situation Brown has us in and not be significantly better by year 3.
 
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Exactly. The problem we have is the inability or stubbornness to pull the plug when it’s time. 6 years is way more time than nearly any other similar program would wait. Typically it’s 3-4 years and that’s it. And signing extensions twice for this performance is ludicrous
There are programs that can afford to take that impatient approach and eventually luck into the right coach. Those are the blueblood programs with tons of money. How many coaches did Texas have to burn through before they found the right one? How many has Texas A&M burnt through with their seemingly endless wealth? How about Alabama replacing Saban and losing to Vanderbilt of all programs with their new coach and already having 2 losses before November? WVU cannot afford the same costly and inefficient approach as those programs. It would be better served working to improve what they already have. Is recruiting lacking? Do whatever you can to improve it. Is the secondary underperforming? Get a new secondary coach or provide better training for the one you have. Taking small steps to improve each component of the program at a time is a more realistic strategy at a place like WVU than constantly firing and hiring entire coaching staffs.
 
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There are programs that can afford to take that impatient approach and eventually luck into the right coach. Those are the blueblood programs with tons of money. How many coaches did Texas have to burn through before they found the right one? How many has Texas A&M burnt through with their seemingly endless wealth? How about Alabama replacing Saban and losing to Vanderbilt of all programs with their new coach and already having 2 losses before November? WVU cannot afford the same costly and inefficient approach as those programs. It would be better served working to improve what they already have. Is recruiting lacking? Do whatever you can to improve it. Is the secondary underperforming? Get a new secondary coach or provide better training for the one you have. Taking small steps to improve each component of the program at a time is a more realistic strategy at a place like WVU than constantly firing and hiring entire coaching staffs.
Really? Did anyone compare WVU to the bluebloods? No. What about similar programs like Louisville? They didnt play around with Kragthorpe. And since when has WVU just kept burning through coaches? 6 years is more than enough time to prove yourself. And no we don’t need minor fixes by Brown tinkering with assistants and recruiting. We need a new HC and philosophy
 
Really? Did anyone compare WVU to the bluebloods? No. What about similar programs like Louisville? They didnt play around with Kragthorpe. And since when has WVU just kept burning through coaches? 6 years is more than enough time to prove yourself. And no we don’t need minor fixes by Brown tinkering with assistants and recruiting. We need a new HC and philosophy
Please go back and re-read what I said. This time, for understanding.
 
There are programs that can afford to take that impatient approach and eventually luck into the right coach. Those are the blueblood programs with tons of money. How many coaches did Texas have to burn through before they found the right one? How many has Texas A&M burnt through with their seemingly endless wealth? How about Alabama replacing Saban and losing to Vanderbilt of all programs with their new coach and already having 2 losses before November? WVU cannot afford the same costly and inefficient approach as those programs. It would be better served working to improve what they already have. Is recruiting lacking? Do whatever you can to improve it. Is the secondary underperforming? Get a new secondary coach or provide better training for the one you have. Taking small steps to improve each component of the program at a time is a more realistic strategy at a place like WVU than constantly firing and hiring entire coaching staffs.
ECU just fired Mike Houston who was ultra successful at JMU...his buyout is a mere 3 million:)...I driving while listening to an ECU sports radio show (since I'm an hr away)... one of the names that came up with these men connected to ECU was none other than RR... felt bad for the team on Saturday,,,,, not for me or anyone else...suppose if you played team sports you'd understand that..gut-wrenching loss
 
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