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The Economist/YouGov Poll:

Is the country better off now than it was eight years ago?

60 percent of Trump voters responded to this question saying that the country was better off eight years ago than today
Dow? Banking? Auto? Housing? Really?

Do you think that the proportion of persons without insurance has increased or decreased over the past five years?

only 26 percent of Trump voters correctly said that persons without insurance decreased

On the subject of climate change do you think: (A) The world’s climate is changing as a result of human activity; (B) The world’s climate is changing but NOT because of human activity; (C) The world’s climate is NOT changing.

Only 36 percent of Trump voters chose "A" as their answer

Did Saddam Hussein have weapons of mass destruction before the invasion of Iraq in 2003 that the U.S. never found?

68 percent of Trump voters said that it was definitely/probably true that Saddam had WMDs

Was President Obama born in Kenya?

52 percent continue to say that Obama is definitely/probably a native Kenyan.

Did Russia hack the email of Democrats in order to increase the chance that Donald Trump would win the Presidential election.

80 percent say the charges against Russia are definitely/probably NOT true

Were millions of illegal votes cast in the election?

62 percent of Trump voters say the claim is definitely/probably true

Did Leaked email from Hillary Clinton’s campaign contain code words for pedophilia, human trafficking and satanic ritual abuse - what some people refer to as ’Pizzagate’?

46 percent of Trump voters said that this ludicrous fiction was definitely/probably true

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ljv2ohxmzj/econTabReport.pdf

 
Looks good to me...

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[laughing]

RPJ puts out the idiot call and it gets answered immediately.

Dumb f'ucks are killing this country.
 
lol...

Did Saddam Hussein have weapons of mass destruction before the invasion of Iraq in 2003 that the U.S. never found?

68 percent of Trump voters said that it was definitely/probably true that Saddam had WMDs

---WE SOLD THEM TO IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING IRAN. 100% CORRECT THEY HAD WMDs.---

1983

saddam-rumsfeld.jpg
 
lol...

On the subject of climate change do you think: (A) The world’s climate is changing as a result of human activity; (B) The world’s climate is changing but NOT because of human activity; (C) The world’s climate is NOT changing.

Only 36 percent of Trump voters chose "A" as their answer

---There have been FIVE ICE AGES, man didn't cause ANY of them.---
 
lol...

Was President Obama born in Kenya?

52 percent continue to say that Obama is definitely/probably a native Kenyan.

---and Kenya was under British rule at the time, NOT AN AMERICAN---
 
RichardPeterJohnson said:
The Economist/YouGov Poll:

Is the country better off now than it was eight years ago?

60 percent of Trump voters responded to this question saying that the country was better off eight years ago than today
Dow? Banking? Auto? Housing? Really?

Do you think that the proportion of persons without insurance has increased or decreased over the past five years?

only 26 percent of Trump voters correctly said that persons without insurance decreased

On the subject of climate change do you think: (A) The world’s climate is changing as a result of human activity; (B) The world’s climate is changing but NOT because of human activity; (C) The world’s climate is NOT changing.

Only 36 percent of Trump voters chose "A" as their answer

Did Saddam Hussein have weapons of mass destruction before the invasion of Iraq in 2003 that the U.S. never found?

68 percent of Trump voters said that it was definitely/probably true that Saddam had WMDs

Was President Obama born in Kenya?

52 percent continue to say that Obama is definitely/probably a native Kenyan.

Did Russia hack the email of Democrats in order to increase the chance that Donald Trump would win the Presidential election.

80 percent say the charges against Russia are definitely/probably NOT true

Were millions of illegal votes cast in the election?

62 percent of Trump voters say the claim is definitely/probably true

Did Leaked email from Hillary Clinton’s campaign contain code words for pedophilia, human trafficking and satanic ritual abuse - what some people refer to as ’Pizzagate’?

46 percent of Trump voters said that this ludicrous fiction was definitely/probably true

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ljv2ohxmzj/econTabReport.pdf
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TL;DNR...plus font size was too small.
 
WVU82 said:

---WE SOLD THEM TO IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING IRAN. 100% CORRECT THEY HAD WMDs.---

1983

saddam-rumsfeld.jpg
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We didn't sell WMDs.

You are an idiot. You make me disappointed in mankind. You are exactly the typical idiot that voted for Trump.

Please tell me you are not allowed to operate a motor vehicle.
 
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lol...

We sold WMDs to Iraq in their war with Iran. 100% GUARANTEED.

Where did Iraq get them ? Rumsfeld and the US...

Do you think Iraq MADE WMDs ? lol...

http://world.time.com/2014/01/20/iran-still-haunted-and-influenced-by-chemical-weapons-attacks/

Jan. 20, 2014
Hassan Hassani Sa’di has been dying from chemical weapons for almost 30 years. The Iranian still remembers the moment he realized Iraqi warplanes were dropping more than regular bombs. “I knew,” he says, “because of the smell of garlic.” It was the pungent and telltale aroma of mustard gas.

Death from mustard gas is gruesome; so is survival. It hideously disfigures skin, sears lungs and mucus membranes, and often blinds. Unlike nerve gas, there’s no antidote. Sa’di, then an 18-year-old fighting in theMiddle East’s grisliest modern war — the 8-year conflict betweenIranand Iraq — survived the Iraqi attack on the strategic Fao Peninsula in 1985. Within hours, his body was badly blistered, and he had gone blind. “The last thing I remember is vomiting green,” he says, during an interview at the Tehran Peace Museum, a facility dedicated to education and the documentation of weapons of mass destruction.

Iran is today the world’s largest laboratory for the study of the effects of chemical weapons, in part because of the sheer numbers of Iranian victims, but also because of a little-studied phenomenon called low-dose exposure. In 1991, a declassified CIA report estimated that Iran suffered more than 50,000 casualties from Iraq’s repeated use of nerve agents and toxic gases in the 1980s. Mustard gas — in dusty, liquid and vapor forms — was used the most during the war. It was packed into bombs and artillery shells, then fired at frontlines and beyond, including at hospitals.

Years after the war, however, Iranian doctors noticed that respiratory diseases with unusual side-symptoms — corneal disintegration, rotting teeth and dementia, a combination synonymous with mustard gas — had started killing off veterans who had not always been on the frontlines. Civilians were also dying.

So in 2000, the government launched a media campaign urging people who had been in certain areas during the war to report for check-ups. The ads didn’t specify why.

The troubling pattern was soon diagnosed as secondary contamination to mustard gas. “We may only have seen the tip of the iceberg. We may not yet have seen the majority of victims,” Dr. Farhad Hashemnezhad told me in 2002. “At least 20 percent of the current patients are civilians who didn’t think they were close enough to be exposed.”

Numbers have since soared from the lingering, and unanticipated, effects of mustard gas. Dr. Shahriar Khateri, Iran’s leading expert on chemical weapons victims, now says 70,000 are registered, many from low-dose exposure that is now killing them.

“We now know that the latency period can be 40 years,” says Khateri, who is unsure of his own fate. Khateri volunteered to fight at age 15 after his brother was killed in the war. He was gassed in 1987 during the battle for southern port of Khorramshahr. After the war, he went to medical school and co-founded the Society for Chemical Weapons Victims Support.

Iranian doctors say the final toll of Iraq’s chemical weapons could ultimately rival the 90,000 who died from toxic gases in World War I.

In the meantime, Iran has struggled to tend to victims. Sa’di has had 8 surgeries to transplant or repair both corneas, but still has to hold his watch to his face, and sunlight is painful. He takes multiple medications to help breathe, but has a hacking cough. He does not work — the state gives him disability allowance — although he volunteers as an occasional docent at the Tehran Peace Museum to tell his story.

In Tehran, chemical weapons victims often end up at Sasan Hospital, a grim facility that had been the American Hospital of Tehran before the 1979 revolution. Abolfazl Afazali is one of 22 patients struggling for life at Sasan when I visit in December. “One of my wishes,” he says, “is to be able to take a deep breath.”

U.S. sanctions have complicated treatment, Iranian doctors say. Humanitarian goods are technically exempt, but international banks have often been unwilling to conduct financial transactions with Iran, even when legal, for fear of repercussions.

Ahmad Zangiabadi represented Iranian victims at the 2013 conference of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, which won the Nobel Peace Prize last year. He is no longer mobile, however. He sleeps sitting upright on the floor of his small apartment because the exertion of lying down and getting up is too much for his lungs. He is kept alive on an Airsep New Life Alert oxygen machine, which pushes oxygen into his lungs and makes a thudding sound with every breath. But he has had increasing trouble getting inhalers made by Spiriva and Glaxo Smith Kline. “Life has become a prison the past four months,” he says.

The lingering impact of a war that ended in a 1988 truce, at a cost of an estimated 1 million Iranian and Iraqi casualties, still defines Iran’s worldview. It has been as important as economic sanctions in pushing Tehran to the negotiating table with the world’s six major powers on its nuclear program. As a result of the war, Iran suffers from “strategic loneliness,” explained Nasser Hadian, a University of Tehran political scientist.

The primary lesson learned, he said, was that Iran had no allies even when it was a victim of weapons banned since World War I by international norms.Tehran felt a sense of isolation and betrayal after the United Nations verified Iraq’s repeated use chemical weapons, but the outside world still almost unanimously sided withSaddam Hussein. Iran’s neighbors aided him. Europeans and Russians sold him arms.

The United States was complicit too. Washington provided Baghdad with intelligence on Iran’s equipment and troops strengths to help Iraq retake the Fao Peninsula in 1988. Iraq made widespread use of chemical weapons to win it back.

The final tally of the war may still not be known for years, Khateri says. “Most of the men exposed to chemical weapons were not registered casualties at the time,” he says. “So almost every day there are new cases — 30 years after the war.”
 
WVU82 said:
lol...

Did Saddam Hussein have weapons of mass destruction before the invasion of Iraq in 2003 that the U.S. never found?

68 percent of Trump voters said that it was definitely/probably true that Saddam had WMDs

---WE SOLD THEM TO IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING IRAN. 100% CORRECT THEY HAD WMDs.---

1983

saddam-rumsfeld.jpg
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Such a nice image of foreign policy under republican leadership, and the consequences.
 
WVU82 said:
lol...

We sold WMDs to Iraq in their war with Iran. 100% GUARANTEED.

Where did Iraq get them ? Rumsfeld and the US...

Do you think Iraq MADE WMDs ? lol...

http://world.time.com/2014/01/20/iran-still-haunted-and-influenced-by-chemical-weapons-attacks/

Jan. 20, 2014
Hassan Hassani Sa’di has been dying from chemical weapons for almost 30 years. The Iranian still remembers the moment he realized Iraqi warplanes were dropping more than regular bombs. “I knew,” he says, “because of the smell of garlic.” It was the pungent and telltale aroma of mustard gas.

Death from mustard gas is gruesome; so is survival. It hideously disfigures skin, sears lungs and mucus membranes, and often blinds. Unlike nerve gas, there’s no antidote. Sa’di, then an 18-year-old fighting in theMiddle East’s grisliest modern war — the 8-year conflict betweenIranand Iraq — survived the Iraqi attack on the strategic Fao Peninsula in 1985. Within hours, his body was badly blistered, and he had gone blind. “The last thing I remember is vomiting green,” he says, during an interview at the Tehran Peace Museum, a facility dedicated to education and the documentation of weapons of mass destruction.

Iran is today the world’s largest laboratory for the study of the effects of chemical weapons, in part because of the sheer numbers of Iranian victims, but also because of a little-studied phenomenon called low-dose exposure. In 1991, a declassified CIA report estimated that Iran suffered more than 50,000 casualties from Iraq’s repeated use of nerve agents and toxic gases in the 1980s. Mustard gas — in dusty, liquid and vapor forms — was used the most during the war. It was packed into bombs and artillery shells, then fired at frontlines and beyond, including at hospitals.

Years after the war, however, Iranian doctors noticed that respiratory diseases with unusual side-symptoms — corneal disintegration, rotting teeth and dementia, a combination synonymous with mustard gas — had started killing off veterans who had not always been on the frontlines. Civilians were also dying.

So in 2000, the government launched a media campaign urging people who had been in certain areas during the war to report for check-ups. The ads didn’t specify why.

The troubling pattern was soon diagnosed as secondary contamination to mustard gas. “We may only have seen the tip of the iceberg. We may not yet have seen the majority of victims,” Dr. Farhad Hashemnezhad told me in 2002. “At least 20 percent of the current patients are civilians who didn’t think they were close enough to be exposed.”

Numbers have since soared from the lingering, and unanticipated, effects of mustard gas. Dr. Shahriar Khateri, Iran’s leading expert on chemical weapons victims, now says 70,000 are registered, many from low-dose exposure that is now killing them.

“We now know that the latency period can be 40 years,” says Khateri, who is unsure of his own fate. Khateri volunteered to fight at age 15 after his brother was killed in the war. He was gassed in 1987 during the battle for southern port of Khorramshahr. After the war, he went to medical school and co-founded the Society for Chemical Weapons Victims Support.

Iranian doctors say the final toll of Iraq’s chemical weapons could ultimately rival the 90,000 who died from toxic gases in World War I.

In the meantime, Iran has struggled to tend to victims. Sa’di has had 8 surgeries to transplant or repair both corneas, but still has to hold his watch to his face, and sunlight is painful. He takes multiple medications to help breathe, but has a hacking cough. He does not work — the state gives him disability allowance — although he volunteers as an occasional docent at the Tehran Peace Museum to tell his story.

In Tehran, chemical weapons victims often end up at Sasan Hospital, a grim facility that had been the American Hospital of Tehran before the 1979 revolution. Abolfazl Afazali is one of 22 patients struggling for life at Sasan when I visit in December. “One of my wishes,” he says, “is to be able to take a deep breath.”

U.S. sanctions have complicated treatment, Iranian doctors say. Humanitarian goods are technically exempt, but international banks have often been unwilling to conduct financial transactions with Iran, even when legal, for fear of repercussions.

Ahmad Zangiabadi represented Iranian victims at the 2013 conference of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, which won the Nobel Peace Prize last year. He is no longer mobile, however. He sleeps sitting upright on the floor of his small apartment because the exertion of lying down and getting up is too much for his lungs. He is kept alive on an Airsep New Life Alert oxygen machine, which pushes oxygen into his lungs and makes a thudding sound with every breath. But he has had increasing trouble getting inhalers made by Spiriva and Glaxo Smith Kline. “Life has become a prison the past four months,” he says.

The lingering impact of a war that ended in a 1988 truce, at a cost of an estimated 1 million Iranian and Iraqi casualties, still defines Iran’s worldview. It has been as important as economic sanctions in pushing Tehran to the negotiating table with the world’s six major powers on its nuclear program. As a result of the war, Iran suffers from “strategic loneliness,” explained Nasser Hadian, a University of Tehran political scientist.

The primary lesson learned, he said, was that Iran had no allies even when it was a victim of weapons banned since World War I by international norms.Tehran felt a sense of isolation and betrayal after the United Nations verified Iraq’s repeated use chemical weapons, but the outside world still almost unanimously sided withSaddam Hussein. Iran’s neighbors aided him. Europeans and Russians sold him arms.

The United States was complicit too. Washington provided Baghdad with intelligence on Iran’s equipment and troops strengths to help Iraq retake the Fao Peninsula in 1988. Iraq made widespread use of chemical weapons to win it back.

The final tally of the war may still not be known for years, Khateri says. “Most of the men exposed to chemical weapons were not registered casualties at the time,” he says. “So almost every day there are new cases — 30 years after the war.”
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We don't sell WMDs. You are a f'ucking moron and you aren't ashamed of it. We only sell small arms and RPGs. Nothing more.
 
RichardPeterJohnson said:
The Economist/YouGov Poll:

Is the country better off now than it was eight years ago?

60 percent of Trump voters responded to this question saying that the country was better off eight years ago than today
Dow? Banking? Auto? Housing? Really?

Do you think that the proportion of persons without insurance has increased or decreased over the past five years?

only 26 percent of Trump voters correctly said that persons without insurance decreased

On the subject of climate change do you think: (A) The world’s climate is changing as a result of human activity; (B) The world’s climate is changing but NOT because of human activity; (C) The world’s climate is NOT changing.

Only 36 percent of Trump voters chose "A" as their answer

Did Saddam Hussein have weapons of mass destruction before the invasion of Iraq in 2003 that the U.S. never found?

68 percent of Trump voters said that it was definitely/probably true that Saddam had WMDs

Was President Obama born in Kenya?

52 percent continue to say that Obama is definitely/probably a native Kenyan.

Did Russia hack the email of Democrats in order to increase the chance that Donald Trump would win the Presidential election.

80 percent say the charges against Russia are definitely/probably NOT true

Were millions of illegal votes cast in the election?

62 percent of Trump voters say the claim is definitely/probably true

Did Leaked email from Hillary Clinton’s campaign contain code words for pedophilia, human trafficking and satanic ritual abuse - what some people refer to as ’Pizzagate’?

46 percent of Trump voters said that this ludicrous fiction was definitely/probably true

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ljv2ohxmzj/econTabReport.pdf
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No surprise.
 
 
lol... they were fighting IRAN... wow...

You need one of those "Know your enemies" classes.
 
ABC Interview with George Bush, December 2008:

GIBSON: You've always said there's no do-overs as President. If you had one?

BUSH: I don't know -- the biggest regret of all the presidency has to have been the intelligence failure in Iraq. A lot of people put their reputations on the line and said the weapons of mass destruction is a reason to remove Saddam Hussein. It wasn't just people in my administration; a lot of members in Congress, prior to my arrival in Washington D.C., during the debate on Iraq, a lot of leaders of nations around the world were all looking at the same intelligence. And, you know, that's not a do-over, but I wish the intelligence had been different, I guess.

GIBSON: If the intelligence had been right, would there have been an Iraq war?

BUSH: Yes, because Saddam Hussein was unwilling to let the inspectors go in to determine whether or not the U.N. resolutions were being upheld. In other words, if he had had weapons of mass destruction, would there have been a war? Absolutely.

GIBSON: No, if you had known he didn't.

BUSH: Oh, I see what you're saying. You know, that's an interesting question. That is a do-over that I can't do. It's hard for me to speculate.
 
va87eer said:
ABC Interview with George Bush, December 2008:

GIBSON: You've always said there's no do-overs as President. If you had one?:

BUSH. I don't know -- the biggest regret of all the presidency has to have been the fact that we were unable to plant WMDs over there. But it really doesn't matter; I was going to make sure he was taken out one way or another since he threatened my daddy.

GIBSON: If the intelligence had been right, would there have been an Iraq war?

BUSH: Yes, because I was going to take out Saddam Hussein regardless.

GIBSON: No, if you had known he didn't.

BUSH: Oh, I see what you're saying. You know, I was going to take out Saddam, regardless. I would have made any excuse after he threatened my daddy.
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Fixed to reflect the truth.
 
Not during the invasion. Iraq is a big country and we didn't have UN observers with advancing troops. It would have been easy to plant stuff in their military facilities.
 
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All the bi-partisan (Republican led) congressional reports stated that Iraq did not have an active WMD program at the time of the invasion. The president admitted the same thing. Small remnants of their prior chemical weapons stock were found. The nuclear angle that was argued to the UN was found to be incorrect.
 
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Not during the invasion. Iraq is a big country and we didn't have UN observers with advancing troops. It would have been easy to plant stuff in their military facilities.
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Prior to the invasion, to justify it. The UN led every investigation.
 
The UN did not believe that Iraq had an active WMD program but also commented that Iraq was using delaying tactics during inspections that were not in accordance with the UN resolution. The US intelligence community did not agree with that assessment and the rest is history.
 
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