Like it or not, Trump is the driving force in the GOP now, especially among the base voters. This election will be driven by turnout, and I just don't see a motivated Democrat base turning out for Biden. I don't see independents turning out en masse against Trump either, that's a vote for the status quo and NOBODY likes what's going on now...no Dems, no independents, and certainly no Trumpers!
DeSantis won't beat Trump...so it's going to be Trump vs whoever the Dems think can smear him the best. (it won't be Biden...he won't survive this scandal) Trump is hated by Marxists true enough, but America is primarily center/right and a vote for a Democrat means more of the same which I believe voters will reject compared to what we had under Trump.
One big step in correcting the problem would be mandating Term Limits for both The Senate and the House of Representitives, and maybe The Supreme Court. They are already in place for The President, why only the President?
I think Trump's negatives are driven by his near 100% opposition coverage in the MSM. It's almost sacrilege to them to cover him fairly or factually. How many of them have admitted the Russian collusion story was a complete hoax that they helped to feed? No wonder most folks who are only half way engaged anyway think he's a complete reprobate? They don't hear anything else!
The whole pandemic debacle added to the decade long debate le thar my wife has gone through with doctors has greatly diminished my faith in medicine. Now on the other hand WVU medicine helped me completely change my life for the better so I don't think doctors are bad....insurance companies, pharma companies and hospitals....ugh
I don't agree on the courts. Keep politics out of the courts as much as possible.
A Trump endorsed candidate just won the GOP Gubernatorial primary in Kentucky. He beat a multi person field (which included a Desantis backed candidate) and he just happens to be Black! I'm not sure Trump is as "radioactive" to voters as he is portrayed in the media. 🤔
his message to blacks has to be precise but it won't be. Blacks are a voting block benefiting from government and liberals have them hooked because liberals are materialistic in how they judge human value. Present materialism to Blacks and immigrates for a vote and liberals will get it. Freedom does not garner a vote. It's the way liberals see human value to acquire power. They are cheap on human value. Look at the reaction to less abortions. They want more. If Trump can show how immigrants will benefit more from government than blacks, because blacks will see themselves as more entitled as immigrates because of their standing in history, they might come over to Trump. But I seriously doubt it. Blacks believe CNN too much and CNN will not show how immigrants will impoverish black more. More misery to promise more government is what the left in America want, with the help of the media, to guarantee the loyalty to vote for the left. Pretty simple.
nor do I.
I think the Dems can do just what they did with Biden. Biden ran as a centrist and governed as a leftist. The Dems will run that play again and it’s more like to work against Trump (again) than it is to work against DeSantis.
That strategy may have worked for Biden in '20 because they (Dems) could paint him as a person would govern from the center. We now know he flat out lied and is being governed as a far Left tool! Trump has a record to compare against Biden's (if he's nominated) and I don't think voters will fall for that ruse again. He's been an absolute disaster!
I hope you’re right. I think people typically vote for the person with the nice personality.That strategy may have worked for Biden in '20 because they (Dems) could paint him as a person would govern from the center. We now know he flat out lied and is being governed as a far Left tool! Trump has a record to compare against Biden's (if he's nominated) and I don't think voters will fall for that ruse again. He's been an absolute disaster!
I resent that.
Why? Is there any doubt you have been?
The real dynamic in that race was Cameron's appeal to Kentucky GOP base voters running as a strong supporter of the MAGA agenda! He got almost 50% of the GOP vote in a very crowded field, and Trump enthusiastically backed him. GOP voters in Kentucky obviously sent a strong signal they are in line with the Trump MAGA agenda! Trump's endorsement certainly was not "radioactive" to Kentucky GOP voters even for a Black man! I think that narrative is being fed by the MSM to scare off Trump's growing support within the GOP and especially among Blacks. He's reaching critical mass, and soon they (media) knows nothing will stop his nomination. They're desperate to prevent that before it's inevitable.
That's generally true, but we're in such a mess now I think folks want someone who's going to go into DC and kick ass (especially among the ruling class). That's Trump.
I think maybe 1/3 of the voting public want that. The rest want civility and prosperity. Trump won’t win on civility. If he’s the nominee, the only hope is people remember our prosperity under Trump b
I think folks will look past Trump's abrasiveness and focus on his policy RESULTS. Trump rubs a lot of folks the wrong way because he's constantly battling perceptions fed by all of his negative media. He does hit back, but mostly at the lies and distortions they spread and I agree he's not nice when he's defending how badly he gets smeared by the propagandists in the State controlled media.
Trump doesn't have to promise anything to Black folks except to control their own destiny. A lot of what you said here is true in terms of how racist poverty plantation Democrats view Blacks, but most Black folks want to be rich and make money not survive on "handouts". Trump's appeal is a direct slap in the face to the pandering by Democrats to Black voters with nothing to show for it all.
It’s interesting that you and I have been on this board since day one. We were on the extreme opposite ends on most every issue. Even though I doubt either of our views have changed much, we are now more in agreement than disagreement because of the political environment today. What we used to consider far left and far right are now more centrist.
What was Cameron polling at when Trump endorsed him? And what was he polling at after Trump endorsed him.A Trump endorsed candidate just won the GOP Gubernatorial primary in Kentucky. He beat a multi person field (which included a Desantis backed candidate) and he just happens to be Black! I'm not sure Trump is as "radioactive" to voters as he is portrayed in the media. 🤔
On Tuesday evening, the AP declared Daniel Jay Cameron, Kentucky’s 51st Attorney General, the winner of the Republican primary, securing 45.7 percent of the vote, while Kelly Craft, a former UN ambassador endorsed by DeSantis, garnered a mere 17 percent.
DeSantis quietly issued his endorsement for Craft on the eve of the election, sending political shockwaves throughout the GOP as he clashed with Trump’s pick.
I'm not sure what the tracking numbers were, however DeSantis entered the fray late in hopes of proving he's the legitimate alternative to Trump in the GOP! All that got blown up in this race! Why do the rules of winning primaries apply to Trump and not DeSantis? If he can't secure the GOP base, how does his popularity among independents and crossovers propel him over a Dem in a general election?
I don't like Trump but will vote for him over Biden.
The same rules apply. It assumes in a general, the base is still going to vote for the base. Then, DeSantis can capture independents and old school Dems as an acceptable alternative to Biden. They don’t view Trump as an acceptable alternative. It’s really pretty simple. In a general, they’d both get the base, but Trump likely stops at the base whereas DeSantis grabs more of the middle.
Perhaps, but DeSantis has to win the base (in the GOP primaries) first. I think that's where we disagree.
Obviously. I’d guess Trump wins the primaries, and assuming he does, he’s going to likely lose the general because he likely wont pull the extra votes he needs that DeSantis could.
Completely agree. Trump demands worship and people like Gunny are happy to oblige.
