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How much credit does Shane Lyons deserve

Good post. However my complaint isnt about the things you talk about. It is about a sick culture that is growing that is giving control of every aspect of life to radical activist asses. Entertainment and sports are dying. Society more polarized. This will not end well.
yeah but you're constantly railing on Lyons and Brown for being social justice warriors. The decision on vic was a business decision that was all. John for someone who claims to be associated with an ad agency you should understand public relations.
 
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He's hitched his wagon to a basketball coach that can't get past the 3rd round and a .500 football coach.

If Huggins makes another at least Elite 8 run and Brown ends up a 10 game winner he will look like a genius.

If WVU continues to come up short in Basketball and goes Liberty Bowling in football the people with the deep pockets are gonna grow tired of it.

As of right now he's managed to improve some things, stay afloat in others and make a couple questionable decisions regarding contracts like no multiple year deals for football assistant, Huggins "lifetimes" and Brown's buyout structure is head scratching.

Overall I would say solid B.

He's hitched his wagon to a basketball coach that can't get past the 3rd round

Let's look at Huggins' record:

29-5 at Cincinnati in 1991-92 NCAA Final Four
27-5 at Cincinnati in 1992-93 NCAA Elite Eight
28-5 at Cincinnati in 1995-96 NCAA Elite Eight
25-10 at Cincinnati in 2000-01 NCAA Sweet 16

You make "3rd round" sound demeaning. Sweet 16 is what everyone without an agenda calls it.
 
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He's hitched his wagon to a basketball coach that can't get past the 3rd round

Let's look at Huggins' record:

29-5 at Cincinnati in 1991-92 NCAA Final Four
27-5 at Cincinnati in 1992-93 NCAA Elite Eight
28-5 at Cincinnati in 1995-96 NCAA Elite Eight
25-10 at Cincinnati in 2000-01 NCAA Sweet 16

You make "3rd round" sound demeaning. Sweet 16 is what everyone without an agenda calls it.
Let me say this real slow. No one one is talking about Cincinnati. Go back to sleep now.
 
He's hitched his wagon to a basketball coach that can't get past the 3rd round

Record: 310–170 (.646)
Team: West Virginia
Title: Head coach
Tournaments: 33–24 (NCAA Division I), 3–4 (NIT), 1–1 (CBI)

NINE 20-win or better seasons at WVU.

FOUR Sweet 16s.


Hardly chopped liver!!!!
 
So who would you replace Huggins with, limiting it to a coach with MORE than FOUR Sweet 16s who would come to WVU?
Let me do this real slow so you can comprehend. No one is talking about replacing Huggs. You apparently are having a debate with yourself. Those voices you hear are yours.
 
Let me do this real slow so you can comprehend. No one is talking about replacing Huggs. You apparently are having a debate with yourself. Those voices you hear are yours.

So why was this posted? Sure doesn't sound like an endorsement of Huggins:

He's hitched his wagon to a basketball coach that can't get past the 3rd round

And, yes, there have been posts saying it's time to get rid of Huggins. You have reading comprehension problems? Or just letting an 88-year-old man getting under your skin? If I said up you would say down without even thinking whether the answer was right. Please get professional mental help. I'll pray for you.
 
So why was this posted? Sure doesn't sound like an endorsement of Huggins:

He's hitched his wagon to a basketball coach that can't get past the 3rd round

And, yes, there have been posts saying it's time to get rid of Huggins. You have reading comprehension problems? Or just letting an 88-year-old man getting under your skin? If I said up you would say down without even thinking whether the answer was right. Please get professional mental help. I'll pray for you.
I tried praying for you but God said you weren't registered with Him.
 
DON'T FORCE ME TO BRING UP MY GENIUS IQ DOCUMENTED AGAIN.

Let the numbers speak for themselves:
2011 10-3
2012 7-6
2013 4-8
2014 7-6
2015 8-5
2016 10-3
2017 7-6
2018 8-4
7.6 – 5.1 average
Nehlen 7-4 average


So you're saying Nehlen was a terrible coach because he did worse than Dana?
Dana-59.84%
Nehlen-63.63%
Which % is better?
Can you cypher CFE?
 
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Shame Lyings and Kneel Brown hate West Virginia, and WVU fans.

They despise the state and the fan base.

They are using WVU sports to push their socialist political views.
 
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yeah but you're constantly railing on Lyons and Brown for being social justice warriors. The decision on vic was a business decision that was all. John for someone who claims to be associated with an ad agency you should understand public relations.

They both are....neither care about football, its only about their radical politics.

The current purpose of WVU Athletics is to spread political agendas. WVU Athletics shouldnt be a tool for radical political activists, that is something everyone should be able to agree on.
 
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Great plan. Go to a second level power 5 team in a small (and still shrinking in population) state to make a big splash in the political world. I’m sure that they would never grab very much attention at a University of Georgia or Norte Dame or Alabama level school. Shane should of stayed at Alabama and worked his way up the ladder there. WVU on that basis should never of hired him if he is shown little vision and patience.
 
They both are....neither care about football, its only about their radical politics.

The current purpose of WVU Athletics is to spread political agendas. WVU Athletics shouldnt be a tool for radical political activists, that is something everyone should be able to agree on.
It was a business decision nothing more. Every other school would have done the same thing. Lyons and Brown didn't let Vic go because they are card carrying members of BLM. They let him go because it was in the best interest of Wvu football long term. You can't have rivals schools going around telling recruits Your D coordinator is a racist. Recruiting is a nasty business. The only people who can't understand this are the ones who wrap themselves up in politics.
 
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It was a business decision nothing more. Every other school would have done the same thing. Lyons and Brown didn't let Vic go because they are card carrying members of BLM. They let him go because it was in the best interest of Wvu football long term. You can't have rivals schools going around telling recruits Your D coordinator is a racist. Recruiting is a nasty business. The only people who can't understand this are the ones who wrap themselves up in politics.

Well didnt they put BLM stickers on the helmets too? Quite the statement, especially during a Presidential election and when BLM were actively rioting.

WVU shouldnt support rioting and anti-cop hatred. That shouldn't need to be said, but unfortunately that's the stance they took. I think politicizing WVU sports is wrong, and divisive.

You may be correct that Brown/Lyons were willing to turn their backs on their own morals to have better recruiting, but that doesn't make me think anymore highly of them.

You and I can agree to have different opinions on the situation, which I'm comfortable with...I just wont agree to approve of their actions and reward them with my support.
 
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Well didnt they put BLM stickers on the helmets too? Quite the statement, especially during a Presidential election and when BLM were actively rioting.

WVU shouldnt support rioting and anti-cop hatred. That shouldn't need to be said, but unfortunately that's the stance they took. I think politicizing WVU sports is wrong, and divisive.

You may be correct that Brown/Lyons were willing to turn their backs on their own morals to have better recruiting, but that doesn't make me think anymore highly of them.

You and I can agree to have different opinions on the situation, which I'm comfortable with...I just wont agree to approve of their actions and reward them with my support.
Most of the universities around the county put blm stickers on their helmets. Most of the people supporting the BLM movement are not rioters only a select few. Whether you chose to support wvu is your own choice but if you were in Brown and Lyons position you would have done the same thing, Its easy to criticize when you sit in the cheap seats.
 
Most of the universities around the county put blm stickers on their helmets. Most of the people supporting the BLM movement are not rioters only a select few. Whether you chose to support wvu is your own choice but if you were in Brown and Lyons position you would have done the same thing, Its easy to criticize when you sit in the cheap seats.

Stop acting like their arms were twisted.

They did it because they wanted to do it and were excited to shove their personal politics into the faces of West Virginians and WVU fans.

I didn't watch a single game last year, cancelled any plans to do so in the future. Voting with my feet and wallet, as they say.

The fan base shouldnt be expected to fund Lyons/Browns personal causes and the university football team shouldnt be used to market divisive political organizations.
 
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BLM is also an arm of the Democratic Socialist of America(DSA). That’s why all these libtards at WVU support it as well. The athletes are too stupid to know what socialism even is.

Yeah I'm not sure how the adults (admin/staff/coaches) look in the mirror knowing they are actively and intentionally promoting socialism in the USA...but hey, as long as it helps recruiting!!!
 
Stop acting like their arms were twisted.

They did it because they wanted to do it and were excited to shove their personal politics into the faces of West Virginians and WVU fans.

I didn't watch a single game last year, cancelled any plans to do so in the future. Voting with my feet and wallet, as they say.

The fan base shouldnt be expected to fund Lyons/Browns personal causes and the university football team shouldnt be used to market divisive political organizations.
Shane Lyons and Neal Brown as well as the majority of coaches and corporations support the fundamental principles behind the BLM movement. If you actually knew what those principles were then you would have a better understanding of why they took the position they did. I understand in the age of tribalism the lines get blurred. I guess since you like to make generalities you must support cop killing as well since you are a member of QAnon. You guys showed the world what a peaceful protest was back on Jan 6th when you stormed that capital resulting in the death of a police officer. Does this encapsulate you?
 
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Shane Lyons and Neal Brown as well as the majority of coaches and corporations support the fundamental principles behind the BLM movement. If you actually knew what those principles were then you would have a better understanding of why they took the position they did. I understand in the age of tribalism the lines get blurred. I guess since you like to make generalities you must support cop killing as well since you are a member of QAnon. You guys showed the world what a peaceful protest was back on Jan 6th when you stormed that capital resulting in the death of a police officer. Does this encapsulate you?

lol at the “principles” of BLM. There are no principles except that it is founded by socialist and hates white people. How is it much different than a modern day KKK or Black Panther Party? Just shows where your political leanings are. Socialist pedophile. Anyone who believes in socialism deserves to be destroyed or shipped to a socialist place.

No one supports racism. Coach Vic said nothing of racial origins. Yeah he may had proselytized, but as an adult (which the players are) you should learn to just ignore it and then talk about it behind closed doors instead of yelling crap on Twitter. Racism goes both ways. You’ll find a lot of indoctrinated athletes at WVU who are black and think they are superior to white players and hate white people. When asked why, they won’t have an intelligent answer because they are as dumb as a box of rocks.
 
lol at the “principles” of BLM. There are no principles except that it is founded by socialist and hates white people. How is it much different than a modern day KKK or Black Panther Party? Just shows where your political leanings are. Socialist pedophile. Anyone who believes in socialism deserves to be destroyed or shipped to a socialist place.

No one supports racism. Coach Vic said nothing of racial origins. Yeah he may had proselytized, but as an adult (which the players are) you should learn to just ignore it and then talk about it behind closed doors instead of yelling crap on Twitter. Racism goes both ways. You’ll find a lot of indoctrinated athletes at WVU who are black and think they are superior to white players and hate white people. When asked why, they won’t have an intelligent answer because they are as dumb as a box of rocks.
BLM has nothing to do with socialism and wasn't founded on hate. You haven't a clue of what socialism is or why BLM was founded. You're just a product of a tribalistic political culture that spouts a bunch of bs.
 
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Lol...call me any name you want little guy.
What ever you say tough guy. John I'm surprised a racist like yourself would even want to play any songs by Robert Johnson. He wasn't white you know. Anyway just let it be. You're not looking that hot in this video.

 
Jasonwhoresese...you keep admitting you are an anti white racist by painting everone who doesn't agree with your progressive socialist nation ruining child minded opinions as anti folks of color. Wow must come from years of your living on tax funded monthly checks. Almost feel sorry for your basement dweller view of the world.
 
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Jasonwhoresese...you keep admitting you are an anti white racist by painting everone who doesn't agree with your progressive socialist nation ruining child minded opinions as anti folks of color. Wow must come from years of your living on tax funded monthly checks. Almost feel sorry for your basement dweller view of the world.
John Moore I'm not the one who keeps bringing up social justice BLM and socialism on a sports message board. No one would be talking about this if it weren't for you a fake med student and a guy who plays with star wars toys.
 
Maybe you should have gone down to the crossroads and strike up a deal with the devil. But I'm not sure the devil would go for it. He wouldn't want to be relegated to the 2nd meanest entity in hell.
...or I could become a left wing DemWit and work right along side the devil while he is in the White House.
 
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BLM has nothing to do with socialism and wasn't founded on hate. You haven't a clue of what socialism is or why BLM was founded. You're just a product of a tribalistic political culture that spouts a bunch of bs.
Disagree with ya there.... They actually say that on their website, on their core beliefs page, it was posted there for a very long time, maybe not now, but it was there forever. Many people posted it on their SM feeds... They are socialist, They are want to break up the nuclear family, which is one of the main reasons why Black Americans have reverted backwards. There is a direct correlation between Black family wealth & divorce/fatherless homes.

We ALL support equality, that transcends the letter beside your name on a voter id card. Political beliefs do not identify or define ones character or moral foundation, unless they are in fact a Nazi, a term like "racist" thats used far to commonly & easily. Honestly, so much so, it has lost its weight... Which is a shame, because the people in this world who do truly suffer from that level of stupidity & hate deserve that word to be as heavy+heavier as the word Rapist..

The issue is the organization of BLM, a socialist org that tied to beliefs of equality. People can support the meaning of BLM, but NOT the organization.

The entire Capital fiasco was far outweighed by all the looting, rioting, pillaging, & burning of businesses the past year. Esp when its pretty obvious to anyone not political biased there were obvious flaws with the election. "Its not the voters who matter, its the people counting the votes"... There are so many issues when a single political party is more heavily involved in the election process then the other.. From the machines being developed & funded by the Clinton Foundation, to mainly democrats counting in strategic states, to mail-in fraud, to flooding US with illegals and allowing them to vote(because they in time transition Texas from Red to Blue)..

If you care more about the integrity of our govnt, then any political party, you want these issues resolved and to never happen again. YOu need strict voting ID laws.. and saying black people dont know how to get a free ID card is by far the most racist & demeaning thing a person can say..

Equality is not a political issue, the left has isolated & deployed their strategy to perfection to monetize emotion. Every logical, moral fibered human believes we are all equal, but when a certain faction puts another on auto defense by calling them Nazi, Bigots, Racist, Xeonphobes, etc... Its impossible to have a logical, factual, data driven, & productive debate. ONly people who are factually disadvantaged deploy such tactics, and the fact they deploy it, is primary identifier they are self serving.

Democrats between taxes, govnt control, govnt overreach, regulations, PC, free speech restrictions, removal of 2nd ad, if I stand back and logically analyze both parties, this is by far the most dangerous party if they ever gain full control, there would be no end to the individual liberties we wold sacrifice. Which is a bit odd, given they call themselves liberals...
 
Disagree with ya there.... They actually say that on their website, on their core beliefs page, it was posted there for a very long time, maybe not now, but it was there forever. Many people posted it on their SM feeds... They are socialist, They are want to break up the nuclear family, which is one of the main reasons why Black Americans have reverted backwards. There is a direct correlation between Black family wealth & divorce/fatherless homes.

We ALL support equality, that transcends the letter beside your name on a voter id card. Political beliefs do not identify or define ones character or moral foundation, unless they are in fact a Nazi, a term like "racist" thats used far to commonly & easily. Honestly, so much so, it has lost its weight... Which is a shame, because the people in this world who do truly suffer from that level of stupidity & hate deserve that word to be as heavy+heavier as the word Rapist..

The issue is the organization of BLM, a socialist org that tied to beliefs of equality. People can support the meaning of BLM, but NOT the organization.

The entire Capital fiasco was far outweighed by all the looting, rioting, pillaging, & burning of businesses the past year. Esp when its pretty obvious to anyone not political biased there were obvious flaws with the election. "Its not the voters who matter, its the people counting the votes"... There are so many issues when a single political party is more heavily involved in the election process then the other.. From the machines being developed & funded by the Clinton Foundation, to mainly democrats counting in strategic states, to mail-in fraud, to flooding US with illegals and allowing them to vote(because they in time transition Texas from Red to Blue)..

If you care more about the integrity of our govnt, then any political party, you want these issues resolved and to never happen again. YOu need strict voting ID laws.. and saying black people dont know how to get a free ID card is by far the most racist & demeaning thing a person can say..

Equality is not a political issue, the left has isolated & deployed their strategy to perfection to monetize emotion. Every logical, moral fibered human believes we are all equal, but when a certain faction puts another on auto defense by calling them Nazi, Bigots, Racist, Xeonphobes, etc... Its impossible to have a logical, factual, data driven, & productive debate. ONly people who are factually disadvantaged deploy such tactics, and the fact they deploy it, is primary identifier they are self serving.

Democrats between taxes, govnt control, govnt overreach, regulations, PC, free speech restrictions, removal of 2nd ad, if I stand back and logically analyze both parties, this is by far the most dangerous party if they ever gain full control, there would be no end to the individual liberties we wold sacrifice. Which is a bit odd, given they call themselves liberals...
Blm was founded in 2013 after travonn martin was killed to protest perceived injustices against Black people. Whether you believe the injustices exist is your opinion. It has nothing to do with socialism. It is a decentralized movement with no formal hierarchy. There is no current mention of socialism on there web site and I doubt there ever was. As far as the election goes it was a free and fair election. Every Secretary of State came to the same conclusion. 59 judges came to the same conclusion and quite a few were Trump appointments. Former President George W Bush said the election was fair as did the FBI and DOJ. People that question election integrity need to show proof and they failed time and time again to do that. Several states vote by mail exclusively without any wide spread problems. The only guy saying it was stolen was some con man from Manhattan who believed in autocracy not democracy. The same guy who sent a cease and desist letter to Gop fundraising committees back in March. The only threat to democracy are the ones who don't respect the will of the voters.


https://blacklivesmatter.com/ No mention of socialism
 
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