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How much credit does Shane Lyons deserve

Just shows that TVZ/fagVorhees has no idea about the BLM movement and the history and the association with DSA. Anyone who fully trusts the FBI, CIA, or the DOJ is just an ostrich with their head in the sand. All the while, he worships kids in high school because they play sports. Disgusting pedophile.
 
Just shows that TVZ/fagVorhees has no idea about the BLM movement and the history and the association with DSA. Anyone who fully trusts the FBI, CIA, or the DOJ is just an ostrich with their head in the sand. All the while, he worships kids in high school because they play sports. Disgusting pedophile.
Just shows fake med student doesn't know what he's talking about. I guess Trump appointed the wrong judges for upholding the law

 
Blm was founded in 2013 after travonn martin was killed to protest perceived injustices against Black people. Whether you believe the injustices exist is your opinion. It has nothing to do with socialism. It is a decentralized movement with no formal hierarchy. There is no current mention of socialism on there web site and I doubt there ever was. As far as the election goes it was a free and fair election. Every Secretary of State came to the same conclusion. 59 judges came to the same conclusion and quite a few were Trump appointments. Former President George W Bush said the election was fair as did the FBI and DOJ. People that question election integrity need to show proof and they failed time and time again to do that. Several states vote by mail exclusively without any wide spread problems. The only guy saying it was stolen was some con man from Manhattan who believed in autocracy not democracy. The same guy who sent a cease and desist letter to Gop fundraising committees back in March. The only threat to democracy are the ones who don't respect the will of the voters.


https://blacklivesmatter.com/ No mention of socialism

The founder openly calls herself a "trained marxist".


In a recently surfaced 2015 interview, one of the three Black Lives Matter co-founders declared that she and another co-founder "are trained Marxists."

We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists. We are superversed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many Black folks."

We didn’t find that Garza and Tometi have referred to themselves as Marxists. But the book publisher Penguin Random House has said Garza, an author, “describes herself as a queer social justice activist and Marxist.”
 
The founder openly calls herself a "trained marxist".


In a recently surfaced 2015 interview, one of the three Black Lives Matter co-founders declared that she and another co-founder "are trained Marxists."

We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists. We are superversed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many Black folks."

We didn’t find that Garza and Tometi have referred to themselves as Marxists. But the book publisher Penguin Random House has said Garza, an author, “describes herself as a queer social justice activist and Marxist.”
BLM is a movement based on ending racism its not a movement trying to implement an economic change. Its members come for many different backgrounds. Learn the difference.


"I am fairly convinced these are mostly attempts to smear anti-racist activists. I think in some media, ‘Marxist’ is dog-whistle for something horrible, like ‘Nazi’, and thus enables to delegitimize/dehumanize them," Miriyam Aouragh, a lecturer at the London-based Westminster School of Media and Communication, told PolitiFact.

Black Lives Matter "is not an organization, but a fluid movement; it doesn’t actually matter if one of its founders was a liberal, Marxist, socialist or capitalist."
 
BLM is a movement based on ending racism its not a movement trying to implement an economic change. Its members come for many different backgrounds. Learn the difference.


"I am fairly convinced these are mostly attempts to smear anti-racist activists. I think in some media, ‘Marxist’ is dog-whistle for something horrible, like ‘Nazi’, and thus enables to delegitimize/dehumanize them," Miriyam Aouragh, a lecturer at the London-based Westminster School of Media and Communication, told PolitiFact.

Black Lives Matter "is not an organization, but a fluid movement; it doesn’t actually matter if one of its founders was a liberal, Marxist, socialist or capitalist."

It matters to me. You're quoting BLM/Marxist sympathizers....the Marxist are denying they are Marxist, what a surprise.

It doesnt matter to Brown and Lyons. They accept and promote organizations which are openly run by marxists and have socialist goals.
 
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Blm was founded in 2013 after travonn martin was killed to protest perceived injustices against Black people. Whether you believe the injustices exist is your opinion. It has nothing to do with socialism. It is a decentralized movement with no formal hierarchy. There is no current mention of socialism on there web site and I doubt there ever was. As far as the election goes it was a free and fair election. Every Secretary of State came to the same conclusion. 59 judges came to the same conclusion and quite a few were Trump appointments. Former President George W Bush said the election was fair as did the FBI and DOJ. People that question election integrity need to show proof and they failed time and time again to do that. Several states vote by mail exclusively without any wide spread problems. The only guy saying it was stolen was some con man from Manhattan who believed in autocracy not democracy. The same guy who sent a cease and desist letter to Gop fundraising committees back in March. The only threat to democracy are the ones who don't respect the will of the voters.


https://blacklivesmatter.com/ No mention of socialism

They obviously removed it, do a simply google search and you'll find millions of social media posts with screen shots of their old core beliefs page that says they are Marxist, the Founder has stated so on many public occasions, along with supporting anarchist views. Its common knowledge at this point.. This was on ESPN, for goodness sakes a black sports announcer said he did not support BLM, and showed the reasons why, at the very top of that list was Socialist/Marxist screenshots of their website. JUst youtube search BLM & Marxist, or BLM & Socialist... The Founder has spoken about this multiple times, and it was on their website, until recently.

A simple google search will provide all the information. Also, if you try to donate, you'll find information that directly ties them to the Democratic party, such as "ActBlue Charities"...

Updating your website, does not update your beliefs...
 
They obviously removed it, do a simply google search and you'll find millions of social media posts with screen shots of their old core beliefs page that says they are Marxist, the Founder has stated so on many public occasions, along with supporting anarchist views. Its common knowledge at this point.. This was on ESPN, for goodness sakes a black sports announcer said he did not support BLM, and showed the reasons why, at the very top of that list was Socialist/Marxist screenshots of their website. JUst youtube search BLM & Marxist, or BLM & Socialist... The Founder has spoken about this multiple times, and it was on their website, until recently.

A simple google search will provide all the information. Also, if you try to donate, you'll find information that directly ties them to the Democratic party, such as "ActBlue Charities"...

Updating your website, does not update your beliefs...

The BLM goal of dissolving the nuclear family was a good one....nothing to see here, totally normal - lets dissolve FAMILIES

Meanwhile, Brown was attending BLM protests and working to put the BLM symbol on WVU uniforms, right before a Presidential election.
 
Shane Lyons and Neal Brown as well as the majority of coaches and corporations support the fundamental principles behind the BLM movement. If you actually knew what those principles were then you would have a better understanding of why they took the position they did. I understand in the age of tribalism the lines get blurred. I guess since you like to make generalities you must support cop killing as well since you are a member of QAnon. You guys showed the world what a peaceful protest was back on Jan 6th when you stormed that capital resulting in the death of a police officer. Does this encapsulate you?
There are no principals behind the BLM movement. Shayne Lyons and everyone else in America are being hamstrung by emotionally unstable liberals and their propaganda partners in the media. Jan 6th was overblown and doesnt even come close to comparing to what the far left did in 1983 when thy tried to blow up republican senators, and the many things the communist weather underground did in their time. Not too mention the liberal who tried to kill a republican by running him over a couple years ago. Antifa mostly lead the capital breach and that has been proven time and time again to those who arent ignorant. Sadly 95% of liberals dont fall into that category so pretty much the only thing y'all dont believe is th truth..

But there are 2 sides to the coin. Just as we underperformed after social justice creeped into our program, so did a guy who really spoke out about what Tee shirt his coach wore on a private fishing trip at Oklahoma St. Its no coincidence that Chuba Hubbard has his worst season after making a stink about a stupid freaking tee shirt. That dude isnt even American, he's Canadian lol. He made big headlines in the liberal news, but when it came to his performance on the field last year, he sucked and deserved to suck.

Social justice = fail for everyone. Live and let live = win for everyone.
 
Yes, there are videos of BLM & Antifa infiltrating on Jan6th specifically to incite... There are multiple videos that show them leading the front of the line when they were in the Capital... It was a smart strategy because they knew the media would selectively not report it.

I grew up in a strong Dem household & family, I was taught as a kid that Dems are for poor people and Reps are for the wealthy. A form of indoctrination no doubt, I didnt really start to see the truth until about in 2012.. Which is when the Dems shifted very far left. Socialism use to be a dirty word, now 35% of Dems support the ideology. Dems are for dependency, large govnt control, large taxes, while Reps are independence, individual accountability, small govnt, low, taxes, and get the fk out of my life...

When you are not politically biased, and watch CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, its obvious they are nothing more then propaganda networks. Fox too, but they almost have to be to in order to show a different perspective, I suppose its natural selection.

Im now an IND, I dont view the world through the lens of partisanship. I vote for who I feel is the best candidate. I often piss people off on both sides because I refuse to tow a line. My views on govnt, 2nd ad, & taxes lean right, but I do support some govnt programs, I just think they need reconstructed to nurture individual productivity and to reduce govnt dependency. I also support Govnt policies that entice companies to deploy employee owned compensation scales, which would have a more positive impact on the economy.

Complex problems are rarely solved with perspectives of singularity. The biggest issue in this country is partisanship/tribalism, Career+Corrupt politicians, and the divisive narrative in the media... Its why im a strong supporter of term limits & media outlets should not be allowed to be politically biased. How else do we expect them to serve thier function to keep our govnt officials honest if they are political biased??. The longer someone remains in DC, the more likely their "good intentions" have been corrupted by self serving influences, which are on every corner in DC.

I worked in DC for a while... I was at a dinner with a very successful DC Real Estate Developer, we began talking about politics. He hated Trump, for which I ask, what are the reason you dislike him or his policies. His only reason was when he took office, it created a slight hiccup in real estate prices/demand in the DC area for a couple months, because no one knew how aggressive he would follow through on cleaning up the swamp...

TO which I reply: You hate Trump because a 2 month hiccup in product/service demand... Now drive down every main street in America, and thats why they all despise democratic policies that care more about foreign workers then our own.. So multiply your feelings by 1000 and thats mainstreet America...

Needless to say, he wont be a client of mine anytime soon... When I could have very well remained silent, kissed his ass, and got a very large account to manage, but..... Im selectve with my services, and the guy just made my skin crawl so Im not going to contribute to his wealth.. A bit stubborn I suppose, but the dude was far more sheltered then people living in WV
 
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People have different opinions on these issues and that's an OK thing. The problem is our staff/admin used WVU assets to push their personal views. WVU fans dont hold universal beliefs and politics are divisive.

Our coach and AD should be uniting the fan base, not glorifying questionable political organizations and using the football team as a political billboard for their causes.

It's unfortunate but Brown and Lyons sent a very clear message to WVU fans - some of you are welcome, some of you are not.
 
People have different opinions on these issues and that's an OK thing. The problem is our staff/admin used WVU assets to push their personal views. WVU fans dont hold universal beliefs and politics are divisive.

Our coach and AD should be uniting the fan base, not glorifying questionable political organizations and using the football team as a political billboard for their causes.

It's unfortunate but Brown and Lyons sent a very clear message to WVU fans - some of you are welcome, some of you are not.

"some of you are welcome, some of you are not."

That's the message of the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and Trump followers!
 
"some of you are welcome, some of you are not."

That's the message of the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and Trump followers!
Thats is the point - That's the wrong message for America. Brown should be above that. Shane Lyons should be above that...its wrong. Dividing people against each other by race is wrong.

Promoting Marxism is wrong. Promoting Socialism is wrong.

WVU never wore Trump stickers on their helmets, which they shouldn't.

WVU Football should be something that brings us together. Our coach and AD made it divisive. They politicized a good thing that actually helped people treat each other better.

May I ask if you, or your family have ever cast a vote for Robert Byrd? Would you like to dig into those records?
 
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"some of you are welcome, some of you are not."

That's the message of the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and Trump followers!
Hold up CFE. Statements like you just made is part of the problem. I've voted for Trump 2x and don't you dare put me in the same category as the KKK and aryan nations. I've always respected your opinion, but you're starting to ramble and not realize what you're saying.

Would you like me to lump Biden and Bernie into marxist movements?

PS. I break the demographic you hold for Trump followers. I have an MBA and never been to a "rally"
 
May I ask if you, or your family have ever cast a vote for Robert Byrd? Would you like to dig into those records?
Sure you can. And the answer is no. The Democrat party is the party of slavery, the party that created the KKK, the party in power that tried to suppress the civil rights movement, that tried to block blacks from marching,attending college, voting,etc and has placed blacks into poor housing, schools and made them all dependent on government hand outs rather than a hand up.

Any questions?
 
Sure you can. And the answer is no. The Democrat party is the party of slavery, the party that created the KKK, the party in power that tried to suppress the civil rights movement, that tried to block blacks from marching,attending college, voting,etc and has placed blacks into poor housing, schools and made them all dependent on government hand outs rather than a hand up.

Any questions?
SSSHHHHH...some skipped that part of history class.

Spoiler to all you know it alls, Lincoln never freed the slaves in the North. Just in the South. He only told the southern states that it was illegal to have them.
 
AH, THE DISGRACE TO COUNTRY MUSIC SUPPORTS THE KKK, NEO-NAZIS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS OVER DECENT AMERICANS. IT'S A PATTERN.
1. You are a total fake.
2. You never wrote a sports story in your life.
3. You dont know which end of a golf club to hold.
4. Your investment portfolio is your Minnie Mouse wallet.
5. You've never travelled abroad unless Cleveland has become it's own country.
6. Your girlfriend has a beard.
7. Your alma mater has Middle School in it's name.
8. Plagiarism is your foremost talent.
9. Your idea of research is to Google...cut and paste...and steal other's work.
10. You are one of approximately 25 personas posting on this and competitive forums.
11. You are a DemWit libtard who loves socialism and free stuff.
12. You are scared to death of Conservatives...Christians...people with actual families and achievers.
13. You've never been to a WVU football or basketball game in your life.
14. Your caps key isn't broken you just don't know better.
15. You are desperate for attention.

Well the list isn't complete but sums you up well.
 
This is why Shane and Neal get roasted. Hitched their buggy to this horse during football season. Can’t wait for another Vorhees statement on how supporting this group is “good for the brand and good for recruiting”.

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This is why Shane and Neal get roasted. Hitched their buggy to this horse during football season. Can’t wait for another Vorhees statement on how supporting this group is “good for the brand and good for recruiting”.

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WHAT IS WRONG WITH OPPOSING COLONIALISM? ALL PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION IN THE NATION WHERE THEY LIVE. WE DO. KICKED OUT THE BRITISH TO DO IT, TOO. THAT MADE US REVOLUTIONARIES AND RADICALS. SOMETIMES THOSE ARE NOT BAD APPELATIONS.
 
WHAT IS WRONG WITH OPPOSING COLONIALISM? ALL PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION IN THE NATION WHERE THEY LIVE. WE DO. KICKED OUT THE BRITISH TO DO IT, TOO. THAT MADE US REVOLUTIONARIES AND RADICALS. SOMETIMES THOSE ARE NOT BAD APPELATIONS.
GOOD LORD......

We didn't kick out the british, we told them we wanted to run ourselves. My god, you were probably there when they signed the declaration. Were you not paying attention...
 
WHAT IS WRONG WITH OPPOSING COLONIALISM? ALL PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION IN THE NATION WHERE THEY LIVE. WE DO. KICKED OUT THE BRITISH TO DO IT, TOO. THAT MADE US REVOLUTIONARIES AND RADICALS. SOMETIMES THOSE ARE NOT BAD APPELATIONS.

So did you support the Confederates?

I assume you would support Texas and Alaska leaving the union?
 
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"some of you are welcome, some of you are not."

That's the message of the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and Trump followers!

The KKK are just a bunch of democrats. Nazis are just a bunch of socialist. Always have been always will be. Trump has nothing to do with any of it. The hate towards him was driven by the leftist social engineers who ignorant and over-emotional people call "journalists". Some of the left's biggest modern political "minds" are bad comedians. Idiots and fools would get political advise from comedians and believe it. Its an embarrassment. Then they have their precious, unhinged celebrities. A bunch of alcoholic, drug addict, emotionally unstable losers who many of would be dead, in rehab or in jail if they had to live in the real world. The left worship the political opinions of these parasites. Most of them are nasty and disgusting but made up like they are special people on TV and movies. They would probably eat each others poop if it would get them more fame. Who is that one, Gwenith Palthrowup? She thinks water has feelings, literally. They love poor people too btw. Just try to buy one of their products from their phony businesses they come up with only to use every loophole to avoid paying taxes and youll find that out fast. But hey, they are the friends of black people and poor people. Thats why they live in gated communities of course. Thats why they dont pay taxes. Because they love you. Just ask them.

But on a lighter note. Have fun paying for gas over the next few years. Be sure to listen to your comedian and celebrity handlers and please, please keep your mask on at all times or you will go to hell after prison. Social distance and please worry about it, because if it doesnt kill you, global warming, or I mean climate change will --a few years ago according to amazing scientists like Al Gore. Have a nice leftist day and dont forget to drink your hate filled grande latte at starfuks and wipe your butt with one sheet to save the planet. Dont fart either. You're killing the atmosphere when you do. Its a delicate balance these things are ya know...
 
Fact: Only the unarmed female trespasser was killed. Officer Sicknick died of two strokes caused by a blood clot at the base of his brain stem. LINK

Fact: The protest phrase with the missing adverb 'also' at the end was coined as a simple hashtag by 3 women upset with the killing of Trayvon Martin by security guard George Zimmerman and being found not guilty of murder. It was originated as a slogan by Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza and Opal Tometi. Had it ended with the word 'also' it would not have stirred a backlash because it could be perceived to mean only black lives matter. Instead it was hijacked by some enterprising race baiters and became a very lucrative protest movement and organization now worth billions. LINK

As far as the AD goes, only an anonymous poll of coaches from all WVU athletic teams would be valid. Anything else is simply a popularity contest by fans. The firing of an assistant coach was due to evangelizing for Christianity to a Muslim player during practice and/or team meetings. That's a no no.

Antifa and the BLM organization have rioted, destroyed property, burned, looted and killed supposedly in protest. Odd that the group is always led by white people when the trouble starts.
 
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Sure you can. And the answer is no. The Democrat party is the party of slavery, the party that created the KKK, the party in power that tried to suppress the civil rights movement, that tried to block blacks from marching,attending college, voting,etc and has placed blacks into poor housing, schools and made them all dependent on government hand outs rather than a hand up.

Any questions?

A lot of wrong here...

Parties change.
Republican Party isn't the same as it was 15 years.
Democratic Party isn't the same as it was 150 years ago.


Any people who remained Democrats changed over in the 1990's over the gun rights issues.
A lot of them switched over in the 1980's with Ronald Reagan.

Almost impossible for conservative Democrats to win election in 1994.
They had to switch parties...

Forget his name...But the guy who was running Reagan's campaign made Democrats look like a bunch hard core liberals..
The Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban were the final nail.

What you are repeating isn't the case

But don't know how this conversation turned to this

Don't care what you believe in...nor your vote

Just care about how you conduct yourself.
 
A lot of wrong here...

Parties change.
Republican Party isn't the same as it was 15 years.
Democratic Party isn't the same as it was 150 years ago.


Any people who remained Democrats changed over in the 1990's over the gun rights issues.
A lot of them switched over in the 1980's with Ronald Reagan.

Almost impossible for conservative Democrats to win election in 1994.
They had to switch parties...

Forget his name...But the guy who was running Reagan's campaign made Democrats look like a bunch hard core liberals..
The Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban were the final nail.

What you are repeating isn't the case

But don't know how this conversation turned to this

Don't care what you believe in...nor your vote

Just care about how you conduct yourself.
Sure you can. And the answer is no. The Democrat party is the party of slavery, the party that created the KKK, the party in power that tried to suppress the civil rights movement, that tried to block blacks from marching,attending college, voting,etc and has placed blacks into poor housing, schools and made them all dependent on government hand outs rather than a hand up.

Any questions?
I attended a lecture discussing the evolution of political parties. They change over time.
Here is a good article discussing it.

 
The people that run things haven't changed in a lot of places.
Their political party has.

I live in an area that has slowly gone blue to red over the past few election cycles, narrowly. In national elections its razor thin margins in any parties favor...but in the local and state races there seems to be a very noticeable trend towards red.

It's not a rejection of Democrats, but the progressive wing which has been aggressively putting candidates in the local races.

There seems to be a realignment occurring in the parties. Look for state races to foreshadow future general elections.

Executive leadership...Mayor, County level, is still currently Dem, but traditional moderate Dem. However, county level most likely changing to GOP in coming cycles...

Meanwhile local positions in city district looking to become more progressive....school board, city council.

Basically city core getting more progressive, all other areas turning red in response.
 
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