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Good win....

You have mentioned that the 2013 Wvu team happened to beat an Oklahoma State team that was ranked. I wonder why you failed to mention that the 2013 WVU team got stomped by Kansas. It was Kansas's First Big 12 win since 2010. One of the most embarrassing losses in the last decade. I guess that doesn't fit your I hate Neal Brown agenda.

You are an absolute twit. You are making my point as I am not defending Holgorsen. I am saying that even a bad coach can still win a big game with a team capable of being stomped by a bottom feeder. I am saying that even though a coach, like Holgorsen, is clearly not good enough to be WVU's long term head coach, that coach can still luck his way into 8, 9, or even 10 win seasons and/or have a big upset win in a season. I had hoped most fans expected Brown to be better than Holgorsen and so far Brown has been much worse without anything to give a rational fan hope he will eventual overcome that mark.
 
The point I am making, we had success in 1975 and a big cause of running a coach that later became one of the greatest was stupid fans instead of supporting the program and celebrating the successes. After he left, the school hired the wrong coach leading to the worst 4 years of WVU football in my lifetime. You can see examples like this throughout the country whether it is Tennessee with Fulmer or Auburn with Tuberville.or many other examples. Look how these programs of fan bases that have become unrealistic suffer in constantly turning over coaches and how many years many of them take to get back to being successful. Very few hit a home run automatically.

I'm not saying Brown is great but the WVU fan base is a lot like other programs and they treat his successes unfairly. I get pissed when we lose especially when there are coaching issues that has played a part in the outcome. But there is a difference in speaking about those instances constructively and just being hateful because you think that makes you cool with other fools on the Internet.
Neil Brown has had plenty of time to show that he is this same thing that he looks like. He's just an average coach. But the win-loss record is only one part of it. This man has the worst post game press conferences I've ever heard in my life. Nobody that I have ever heard makes as many excuses as WVU football coach Neil Brown. He is the weakest person I have ever seen in his position and there is no way you'll ever convince me that he will build a real winner here. He's such a weakling he would be totally offended by someone like Bowden being hard on his team and demanding excellence. Neil Brown doesn't demand excellence lol. He coaches a player led team which means he's just not a real natural leader of men. You can see it in his demeanor it's not just the football games. It's almost as if we have a teenage boy coaching the team. He should have already been fired.
 
You are an absolute twit. You are making my point as I am not defending Holgorsen. I am saying that even a bad coach can still win a big game with a team capable of being stomped by a bottom feeder. I am saying that even though a coach, like Holgorsen, is clearly not good enough to be WVU's long term head coach, that coach can still luck his way into 8, 9, or even 10 win seasons and/or have a big upset win in a season. I had hoped most fans expected Brown to be better than Holgorsen and so far Brown has been much worse without anything to give a rational fan hope he will eventual overcome that mark.
I never thought I would miss holgerson because he left a lot to be desired, but we had a way more exciting team under him and the whole entire Vibe of the football team was better. On and off the field. Even the media talked about us in a different light because we weren't just some boring team with a lame ass boring coach like we are now. Neil Brown has brought in the most boring era of football in a long time for wvu.
 
I never thought I would miss holgerson because he left a lot to be desired, but we had a way more exciting team under him and the whole entire Vibe of the football team was better. On and off the field. Even the media talked about us in a different light because we weren't just some boring team with a lame ass boring coach like we are now. Neil Brown has brought in the most boring era of football in a long time for wvu.
show us on the doll where Neal Brown hurt you......here's the deal...you and the other members of the moron brigade can follow another team...you are just a Pitt fan having a bit of fun on a WVU message board..I've always known the truth...no one could be a fan of a team and have 99% negative comments
 
You are an absolute twit. You are making my point as I am not defending Holgorsen. I am saying that even a bad coach can still win a big game with a team capable of being stomped by a bottom feeder. I am saying that even though a coach, like Holgorsen, is clearly not good enough to be WVU's long term head coach, that coach can still luck his way into 8, 9, or even 10 win seasons and/or have a big upset win in a season. I had hoped most fans expected Brown to be better than Holgorsen and so far Brown has been much worse without anything to give a rational fan hope he will eventual overcome that mark.

- In 1999 the HC was 15-9 (.625) in the two seasons preceeding that embarassing loss. In those 2 seasons, WVU beat the ultimate #25. In that same 1999 season, WVU lost by 8 to #23 and 2 to #2. Not to mention that HC is arguable the greatest in WVU history.

- In 2013 the HC was 17-9 (.654) in the two seasons preceeding that embarassing loss. In those 2 seasons, WVU beat ultimate #25, #22, and #19. WVU finished ranked #17 once before that loss. In that same 2013 season, WVU still beat ultimate #17 OSU.

- In 2010 WVU lost 4 games and lost the weak Big East where NO conference teams finished ranked and the defense was giving up less than 13ppg. Yet the HC was 18-8 (.692) in the 2 seasons preceeding with a win against ultimate #15 and two ranked finishes at #23 and #25. That coach was relieved of his position after that 2010 season.

- In this year the HC is 14-11 (.560) in the preceeding 2 seasons. 0 ranked wins and 0 ranked finishes.

The point is that despite those embarassments, the other head coaches had already done something to show potential and it took less than 5 years for them to do so. To date, Neal Brown's resume at WVU doesn't show nearly the same potential and yet he is given the benefit of the doubt when he has done less than the last 2 WVU coaches who were shown the door.
You are a moron of the highest order. I'm not making any of your points. I'm just showing how you are cherry picking to fit your I hate Neal Brown agenda. You can mention Holgorsen's record prior to 2013 but you didn't mention that one of those seasons was in the big east. Just like you overlooked the loss against Kansas when trying to tout a win against Oklahoma State. WVU was more like Kansas than it was Oklahoma state, but I guess a simple-minded fool like you can't figure that out especially when you're a 4-win team.
 
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You are a moron of the highest order. I'm not making any of your points. I'm just showing how you are cherry picking to fit your I hate Neal Brown agenda. You can mention Holgorsen's record prior to 2013 but you didn't mention that one of those seasons was in the big east. Just like you overlooked the loss against Kansas when trying to tout a win against Oklahoma State. WVU was more like Kansas than it was Oklahoma state, but I guess a simple-minded fool like you can't figure that out especially when you're a 4-win team.

Once again, I did not tout the OSU win in 2013. I pretty much said it shows even a blind squirrel can find an acorn. The fact that we got crushed by Kansas along with several other teams that season means you need to look at the season in totality instead of cherry picking single wins as you are. Point to any 4 year span of a WVU coach since 1970 where there were no ranked wins and 3 losing seasons. Only Cignetti and Brown fit that bill. No matter the metric, Brown has yet to show anything that makes him competitive with any WVU coach not named Cignetti in over 50 years. I really wish he would, but he hasn't yet. I don't see how any of you have faith that it is likely to change anytime soon especially since most coaches WVU has had who didn't get fired showed at least something better than Brown in less than 3 years, much less 5.
 
show us on the doll where Neal Brown hurt you......here's the deal...you and the other members of the moron brigade can follow another team...you are just a Pitt fan having a bit of fun on a WVU message board..I've always known the truth...no one could be a fan of a team and have 99% negative comments
Neil Brown is hurting the WVU football program you retard lol. I get that you are stupid and have no idea about football but I actually care about WVU sports unlike you and your little band of idiots. Hasn't anybody reported you for The Stolen Valor? They should. Lying about military experience is pathetic. Get a life dude
 
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Neil Brown is hurting the WVU football program you retard lol. I get that you are stupid and have no idea about football but I actually care about WVU sports unlike you and your little band of idiots. Hasn't anybody reported you for The Stolen Valor? They should. Lying about military experience is pathetic. Get a life dude
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There are people in this thread that are not happy we won today so they will try and look for anything to dimmish the win.
Or maybe there are people in this thread that know a little about the game. People that know that a W over a very inferior team that was missing 4-5 starters isn't a great W. People that realize that we were embarrassed by PSU and blew a 2 score lead in the last 5 mins vs Pitt.

Now we were completely shut down after the first two drives, one a TD and 2nd a missed FG, when the opposing coach made changes to stop GG's ability to scramble and make bigger gains and dared him to win with his arm. Campbell rearranged his 2nd level D to put 1 or 2 spies on GG. It worked.
 
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Oh my that was a good one. How Original and creative to call someone a Pitt fan when you're the one who wants to keep the worst coach in WVU history and acts like a 3-year-old baby when someone else doesn't. I think your Neil Brown's wife
 
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Oh my that was a good one. How Original and creative to call someone a Pitt fan when you're the one who wants to keep the worst coach in WVU history and acts like a 3-year-old baby when someone else doesn't. I think your Neil Brown's wife
you're an idiot and a liar...your phone is not spelling Neal as Neil ..you are typing it..a voice activated phone would never have..(3-year-old baby)..it would be three year old baby...also your is you're......lying PITT FAN
 
you're an idiot and a liar...your phone is not spelling Neal as Neil ..you are typing it..a voice activated phone would never have..(3-year-old baby)..it would be three year old baby...also your is you're......lying PITT FAN
I'm on my laptop this morning but it doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is that anything I say or do continues to bother you because you are obsessed. So obsessed that you are even making a deal about how I spell Kneel Brown. That right there is some good shit. Keep it coming fishy....
 
I'm on my laptop this morning but it doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is that anything I say or do continues to bother you because you are obsessed. So obsessed that you are even making a deal about how I spell Kneel Brown. That right there is some good shit. Keep it coming fishy....
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