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You have mentioned that the 2013 Wvu team happened to beat an Oklahoma State team that was ranked. I wonder why you failed to mention that the 2013 WVU team got stomped by Kansas. It was Kansas's First Big 12 win since 2010. One of the most embarrassing losses in the last decade. I guess that doesn't fit your I hate Neal Brown agenda.

You are an absolute twit. You are making my point as I am not defending Holgorsen. I am saying that even a bad coach can still win a big game with a team capable of being stomped by a bottom feeder. I am saying that even though a coach, like Holgorsen, is clearly not good enough to be WVU's long term head coach, that coach can still luck his way into 8, 9, or even 10 win seasons and/or have a big upset win in a season. I had hoped most fans expected Brown to be better than Holgorsen and so far Brown has been much worse without anything to give a rational fan hope he will eventual overcome that mark.
 
The point I am making, we had success in 1975 and a big cause of running a coach that later became one of the greatest was stupid fans instead of supporting the program and celebrating the successes. After he left, the school hired the wrong coach leading to the worst 4 years of WVU football in my lifetime. You can see examples like this throughout the country whether it is Tennessee with Fulmer or Auburn with Tuberville.or many other examples. Look how these programs of fan bases that have become unrealistic suffer in constantly turning over coaches and how many years many of them take to get back to being successful. Very few hit a home run automatically.

I'm not saying Brown is great but the WVU fan base is a lot like other programs and they treat his successes unfairly. I get pissed when we lose especially when there are coaching issues that has played a part in the outcome. But there is a difference in speaking about those instances constructively and just being hateful because you think that makes you cool with other fools on the Internet.
Neil Brown has had plenty of time to show that he is this same thing that he looks like. He's just an average coach. But the win-loss record is only one part of it. This man has the worst post game press conferences I've ever heard in my life. Nobody that I have ever heard makes as many excuses as WVU football coach Neil Brown. He is the weakest person I have ever seen in his position and there is no way you'll ever convince me that he will build a real winner here. He's such a weakling he would be totally offended by someone like Bowden being hard on his team and demanding excellence. Neil Brown doesn't demand excellence lol. He coaches a player led team which means he's just not a real natural leader of men. You can see it in his demeanor it's not just the football games. It's almost as if we have a teenage boy coaching the team. He should have already been fired.
 
You are an absolute twit. You are making my point as I am not defending Holgorsen. I am saying that even a bad coach can still win a big game with a team capable of being stomped by a bottom feeder. I am saying that even though a coach, like Holgorsen, is clearly not good enough to be WVU's long term head coach, that coach can still luck his way into 8, 9, or even 10 win seasons and/or have a big upset win in a season. I had hoped most fans expected Brown to be better than Holgorsen and so far Brown has been much worse without anything to give a rational fan hope he will eventual overcome that mark.
I never thought I would miss holgerson because he left a lot to be desired, but we had a way more exciting team under him and the whole entire Vibe of the football team was better. On and off the field. Even the media talked about us in a different light because we weren't just some boring team with a lame ass boring coach like we are now. Neil Brown has brought in the most boring era of football in a long time for wvu.
 
I never thought I would miss holgerson because he left a lot to be desired, but we had a way more exciting team under him and the whole entire Vibe of the football team was better. On and off the field. Even the media talked about us in a different light because we weren't just some boring team with a lame ass boring coach like we are now. Neil Brown has brought in the most boring era of football in a long time for wvu.
show us on the doll where Neal Brown hurt you......here's the deal...you and the other members of the moron brigade can follow another team...you are just a Pitt fan having a bit of fun on a WVU message board..I've always known the truth...no one could be a fan of a team and have 99% negative comments
 
You are an absolute twit. You are making my point as I am not defending Holgorsen. I am saying that even a bad coach can still win a big game with a team capable of being stomped by a bottom feeder. I am saying that even though a coach, like Holgorsen, is clearly not good enough to be WVU's long term head coach, that coach can still luck his way into 8, 9, or even 10 win seasons and/or have a big upset win in a season. I had hoped most fans expected Brown to be better than Holgorsen and so far Brown has been much worse without anything to give a rational fan hope he will eventual overcome that mark.

- In 1999 the HC was 15-9 (.625) in the two seasons preceeding that embarassing loss. In those 2 seasons, WVU beat the ultimate #25. In that same 1999 season, WVU lost by 8 to #23 and 2 to #2. Not to mention that HC is arguable the greatest in WVU history.

- In 2013 the HC was 17-9 (.654) in the two seasons preceeding that embarassing loss. In those 2 seasons, WVU beat ultimate #25, #22, and #19. WVU finished ranked #17 once before that loss. In that same 2013 season, WVU still beat ultimate #17 OSU.

- In 2010 WVU lost 4 games and lost the weak Big East where NO conference teams finished ranked and the defense was giving up less than 13ppg. Yet the HC was 18-8 (.692) in the 2 seasons preceeding with a win against ultimate #15 and two ranked finishes at #23 and #25. That coach was relieved of his position after that 2010 season.

- In this year the HC is 14-11 (.560) in the preceeding 2 seasons. 0 ranked wins and 0 ranked finishes.

The point is that despite those embarassments, the other head coaches had already done something to show potential and it took less than 5 years for them to do so. To date, Neal Brown's resume at WVU doesn't show nearly the same potential and yet he is given the benefit of the doubt when he has done less than the last 2 WVU coaches who were shown the door.
You are a moron of the highest order. I'm not making any of your points. I'm just showing how you are cherry picking to fit your I hate Neal Brown agenda. You can mention Holgorsen's record prior to 2013 but you didn't mention that one of those seasons was in the big east. Just like you overlooked the loss against Kansas when trying to tout a win against Oklahoma State. WVU was more like Kansas than it was Oklahoma state, but I guess a simple-minded fool like you can't figure that out especially when you're a 4-win team.
 
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You are a moron of the highest order. I'm not making any of your points. I'm just showing how you are cherry picking to fit your I hate Neal Brown agenda. You can mention Holgorsen's record prior to 2013 but you didn't mention that one of those seasons was in the big east. Just like you overlooked the loss against Kansas when trying to tout a win against Oklahoma State. WVU was more like Kansas than it was Oklahoma state, but I guess a simple-minded fool like you can't figure that out especially when you're a 4-win team.

Once again, I did not tout the OSU win in 2013. I pretty much said it shows even a blind squirrel can find an acorn. The fact that we got crushed by Kansas along with several other teams that season means you need to look at the season in totality instead of cherry picking single wins as you are. Point to any 4 year span of a WVU coach since 1970 where there were no ranked wins and 3 losing seasons. Only Cignetti and Brown fit that bill. No matter the metric, Brown has yet to show anything that makes him competitive with any WVU coach not named Cignetti in over 50 years. I really wish he would, but he hasn't yet. I don't see how any of you have faith that it is likely to change anytime soon especially since most coaches WVU has had who didn't get fired showed at least something better than Brown in less than 3 years, much less 5.
 
show us on the doll where Neal Brown hurt you......here's the deal...you and the other members of the moron brigade can follow another team...you are just a Pitt fan having a bit of fun on a WVU message board..I've always known the truth...no one could be a fan of a team and have 99% negative comments
Neil Brown is hurting the WVU football program you retard lol. I get that you are stupid and have no idea about football but I actually care about WVU sports unlike you and your little band of idiots. Hasn't anybody reported you for The Stolen Valor? They should. Lying about military experience is pathetic. Get a life dude
 
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Neil Brown is hurting the WVU football program you retard lol. I get that you are stupid and have no idea about football but I actually care about WVU sports unlike you and your little band of idiots. Hasn't anybody reported you for The Stolen Valor? They should. Lying about military experience is pathetic. Get a life dude
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There are people in this thread that are not happy we won today so they will try and look for anything to dimmish the win.
Or maybe there are people in this thread that know a little about the game. People that know that a W over a very inferior team that was missing 4-5 starters isn't a great W. People that realize that we were embarrassed by PSU and blew a 2 score lead in the last 5 mins vs Pitt.

Now we were completely shut down after the first two drives, one a TD and 2nd a missed FG, when the opposing coach made changes to stop GG's ability to scramble and make bigger gains and dared him to win with his arm. Campbell rearranged his 2nd level D to put 1 or 2 spies on GG. It worked.
 
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Oh my that was a good one. How Original and creative to call someone a Pitt fan when you're the one who wants to keep the worst coach in WVU history and acts like a 3-year-old baby when someone else doesn't. I think your Neil Brown's wife
 
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Oh my that was a good one. How Original and creative to call someone a Pitt fan when you're the one who wants to keep the worst coach in WVU history and acts like a 3-year-old baby when someone else doesn't. I think your Neil Brown's wife
you're an idiot and a liar...your phone is not spelling Neal as Neil ..you are typing it..a voice activated phone would never have..(3-year-old baby)..it would be three year old baby...also your is you're......lying PITT FAN
 
you're an idiot and a liar...your phone is not spelling Neal as Neil ..you are typing it..a voice activated phone would never have..(3-year-old baby)..it would be three year old baby...also your is you're......lying PITT FAN
I'm on my laptop this morning but it doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is that anything I say or do continues to bother you because you are obsessed. So obsessed that you are even making a deal about how I spell Kneel Brown. That right there is some good shit. Keep it coming fishy....
 
I'm on my laptop this morning but it doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is that anything I say or do continues to bother you because you are obsessed. So obsessed that you are even making a deal about how I spell Kneel Brown. That right there is some good shit. Keep it coming fishy....
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Right after you wrote this, your boy pissed off the entire fan base and showed his true colors to the ppl who were too inept to see it before, which sadly were many. You are supporting a coach who is running wvu into the dirt and making a complete fool of himself in front of the world. He has no respect for WVU or its fans and never has. Yes I said he never has, not since day 1 and its true. He really should take you with him when he is rightfully run out of town. WVU deserves better than both of you, and that is no joke.

Btw, I would rather be a pitt fan than what you are. Not even close...
 
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Right after you wrote this, your boy pissed off the entire fan base and showed his true colors to the ppl who were too inept to see it before, which sadly were many. You are supporting a coach who is running wvu into the dirt and making a complete fool of himself in front of the world. He has no respect for WVU or its fans and never has. Yes I said he never has, not since day 1 and its true. He really should take you with him when he is rightfully run out of town. WVU deserves better than both of you, and that is no joke.

Btw, I would rather be a pitt fan than what you are. Not even close...
guess what? he could go 4-8 and will still be the coach next season...you aren't very bright are you?...the BOG is concerned with hiring a new president..those type of decisions will be left up to him or her..
 
guess what? he could go 4-8 and will still be the coach next season...you aren't very bright are you?...the BOG is concerned with hiring a new president..those type of decisions will be left up to him or her..
How do you know that? I know how.... you don't lol. You're just talking shit because you have a loser mentality and this is what losers do. "But Hoppy said...." whatever man. Hoppy doesnt know shit about what will happen in the future. You have been wrong the entire time about Neil Brown and I have been right the entire time and you're just trying to deflect from that. You have no idea what the bog is concerned with. You have no idea what's going on behind closed doors right now. You obviously have no clue about much of anything dude lol.

But this is where the fans come in and what's happening right now is a massive amount of pressure is building and fans have had enough of this shitshow. What's happening right now has the ability to change anything that has been said before now. Fans are turning on your boy for very good reason. I have never seen a fan bass more fed up with a coach at WVU than they are with Neil Brown right now. I have no doubt that Wren Baker is going to hear a lot about how it's time to move on from this loser. People are going to start to boycott games, I have seen lots of people say they're not renewing their season tickets no matter what happens the rest of the season. Because they have simply had enough. The fans have the ability to change things and that's why it's important for us to speak out and not be a bunch of idiots like you. The people who love this program and school should be speaking out on its behalf and I believe that's about to happen more than what we've seen in a long long time maybe ever
 
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How do you know that? I know how.... you don't lol. You're just talking shit because you have a loser mentality and this is what losers do. "But Hoppy said...." whatever man. Hoppy doesnt know shit about what will happen in the future. You have been wrong the entire time about Neil Brown and I have been right the entire time and you're just trying to deflect from that. You have no idea what the bog is concerned with. You have no idea what's going on behind closed doors right now. You obviously have no clue about much of anything dude lol.

But this is where the fans come in and what's happening right now is a massive amount of pressure is building and fans have had enough of this shitshow. What's happening right now has the ability to change anything that has been said before now. Fans are turning on your boy for very good reason. I have never seen a fan bass more fed up with a coach at WVU than they are with Neil Brown right now. I have no doubt that Wren Baker is going to hear a lot about how it's time to move on from this loser. People are going to start to boycott games, I have seen lots of people say they're not renewing their season tickets no matter what happens the rest of the season. Because they have simply had enough. The fans have the ability to change things and that's why it's important for us to speak out and not be a bunch of idiots like you. The people who love this program and school should be speaking out on its behalf and I believe that's about to happen more than what we've seen in a long long time maybe ever
we're 3-3 you moron..I expected to be 4-2..one game off.. you and the rest of the low self-esteem losers can be replaced...I've caught you in so many lies it's hard to keep track..idiot
 
we're 3-3 you moron..I expected to be 4-2..one game off.. you and the rest of the low self-esteem losers can be replaced...I've caught you in so many lies it's hard to keep track..idiot
You haven't caught anybody in anything you pathetic weenie lol. People with low self-esteem don't have high expectations. It's funny you say that because you're the one displaying the low self-esteem by setting such a low bar. You're obviously perfectly content with the downfall of WVU football. My expectations are much higher for WVU football and for WVU as a school because I put high expectations on myself. I put high expectations on my employees. I don't set the bar low like you do because I think it's for losers.
 
You haven't caught anybody in anything you pathetic weenie lol. People with low self-esteem don't have high expectations. It's funny you say that because you're the one displaying the low self-esteem by setting such a low bar. You're obviously perfectly content with the downfall of WVU football. My expectations are much higher for WVU football and for WVU as a school because I put high expectations on myself. I put high expectations on my employees. I don't set the bar low like you do because I think it's for losers.
fk your expectations..you cower at the first sign of adversity..if there was physical danger you'd be the first one to run..and no one believes that your alcoholic ass has any employees..you are the biggest liar on social media...you claim to go to the games then you post this...
"I havent watched a college game except maybe 1 or 2 outside of WVU in a few years. Been losing interest for a while. Same with NFL. I watch my team but thats all. I used to play football all day on Saturdays and Sundays on the TV and usually have friends over, but havent done that since."
 
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fk your expectations..you cower at the first sign of adversity..if there was physical danger you'd be the first one the run..and no one believes that your alcoholic ass has any employees..you are the biggest liar on social media...you claim to go to the games then you post this...
"I havent watched a college game except maybe 1 or 2 outside of WVU in a few years. Been losing interest for a while. Same with NFL. I watch my team but thats all. I used to play football all day on Saturdays and Sundays on the TV and usually have friends over, but havent done that since."
Lack of friends and social skills will do that to a fella
 
Right after you wrote this, your boy pissed off the entire fan base and showed his true colors to the ppl who were too inept to see it before, which sadly were many. You are supporting a coach who is running wvu into the dirt and making a complete fool of himself in front of the world. He has no respect for WVU or its fans and never has. Yes I said he never has, not since day 1 and its true. He really should take you with him when he is rightfully run out of town. WVU deserves better than both of you, and that is no joke.

Btw, I would rather be a pitt fan than what you are. Not even close...
Any Mountaineer fan wanting to be a sPitt fan is no fan at all.
 
fk your expectations..you cower at the first sign of adversity..if there was physical danger you'd be the first one to run..and no one believes that your alcoholic ass has any employees..you are the biggest liar on social media...you claim to go to the games then you post this...
"I havent watched a college game except maybe 1 or 2 outside of WVU in a few years. Been losing interest for a while. Same with NFL. I watch my team but thats all. I used to play football all day on Saturdays and Sundays on the TV and usually have friends over, but havent done that since."
You're such a tough guy that you have no argument to all the bullshit about Neil Brown so you just want to attack me personally because that's all you know how to do. I don't really care dude. I don't have teams that I pay attention to outside of WVU. You think your little post from me proves any kind of point but it doesn't. All you have done is insult me and call me names ever since I came out 3 years ago against the worst football coach WVU has ever had. Because you're a butthurt little crybaby and that's all you know how to do is call people names and act like a 10 year old.

Not to mention you lie about being a Marine. You are way too weak in the mind to be a Marine dude. Nobody believes you.
 
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You're such a tough guy that you have no argument to all the bullshit about Neil Brown so you just want to attack me personally because that's all you know how to do. I don't really care dude. I don't have teams that I pay attention to outside of WVU. You think your little post from me proves any kind of point but it doesn't. All you have done is insult me and call me names ever since I came out 3 years ago against the worst football coach WVU has ever had. Because you're a butthurt little crybaby and that's all you know how to do is call people names and act like a 10 year old.

Not to mention you lie about being a Marine. You are way too weak in the mind to be a Marine dude. Nobody believes you.
hey asshole..there's at least 20 people who post here that I've met in person including V...they know what the truth is...who do you know that posts here
 
hey asshole..there's at least 20 people who post here that I've met in person including V...they know what the truth is...who do you know that posts here
I don't meet people from the internet in person basically ever. I'm glad for you that you have met 20 people on here that's pretty cool. If it were something I desired perhaps I would look up to you for that but I don't so it just is what it is.

Back on topic, tell me why we should keep Neil Brown as a coach at this point and why fans should not jump off the bandwagon and demand better? Give me some compelling reasons. Instead of just charging in and calling names and pointing fingers like you did 3 years ago and still do, why don't you actually make an argument.
 
I don't meet people from the internet in person basically ever. I'm glad for you that you have met 20 people on here that's pretty cool. If it were something I desired perhaps I would look up to you for that but I don't so it just is what it is.

Back on topic, tell me why we should keep Neil Brown as a coach at this point and why fans should not jump off the bandwagon and demand better? Give me some compelling reasons. Instead of just charging in and calling names and pointing fingers like you did 3 years ago and still do, why don't you actually make an argument.
More to the point, what's Nelly's plan for fixing things...or is he just going to take the Huggins approach and take years to fix it?
 
More to the point, what's Nelly's plan for fixing things...or is he just going to take the Huggins approach and take years to fix it?
They are both stubborn that's for sure. Huggins was slipping towards the end but at least his system used to work. Brown is just a stubborn failure on all fronts.
 
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