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College football is a joke, a damn farce

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Ohio State ranked much higher than Oklahoma despite Sooners crushing them in Columbus. Why even play OOC games vs high profile opponents if they don't matter? Someone on ESPN was rambling on if Ohio State played Oklahoma in Norman next week, Ohio State would win easily. They are a different team. Blah blah blah. Why even play the damn games if they don't matter because someone is playing better now than they were a few weeks ago? Makes zero sense. End the subjectivity, end the rankings. College football needs a complete overhaul. This sport is nothing more than a pony show, who has the cutest pony? Everyone has a different opinion. End it now. Let's have a real playoff format.

Say what you want about the NFL but they get it right when it comes to crowning a champion........
 
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Oklahoma has the worse loss out of the 2 and Ohio state plays in a perceived tougher conference.

They should be close in rankings though.
 
bEER_Nation13 said:
Ohio State ranked much higher than Oklahoma despite Sooners crushing them in Columbus. Why even play OOC games vs high profile opponents if they don't matter? Someone on ESPN was rambling on if Ohio State played Oklahoma in Norman next week, Ohio State would win easily. They are a different team. Blah blah blah. Why even play the damn games if they don't matter because someone is playing better now than they were a few weeks ago? Makes zero sense. End the subjectivity, end the rankings. College football needs a complete overhaul. This sport is nothing more than a pony show, who has the cutest pony? Everyone has a different opinion. End it now. Let's have a real playoff format.

Say what you want about the NFL but they get it right when it comes to crowning a champion........
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Of course you’re right, but so was Blazing Saddles, and it’s the greatest movie of all time.
 
Iowa State beat Oklahoma and TCU but is ranked below both because of 2 losses. But you could argue that Iowa State is better than both NOW because they are in the Cyclones' 4-game winning streak.

It's so subjective.

If Ohio State gets in again, how do you leave out Penn State if the Nittany Lions win out? Only 1 point separates them.

If Alabama loses to Georgia by 1 point, how do you leave either out?

8-team playoff is better. I know, 9th team will bitch, but that would allow for 5 Power conference champs plus 3 at-large. That also makes the conference title games de facto part of the playoffs.

If that sounds like the BCS, maybe they had it right till they watered down the computer rankings because humans wanted to control it and they didn't name 4 or 8 teams to the playoffs.
 
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It needs to be an 8 game playoff. Automatic inclusion for all P5 champions. Three wildcards, that would give access to a member of the other group.

Eliminate pointless games against sub division. Use four of the New Years six like the Rose, Orange, Fiesta, Sugar for the quarters. Use the Cotton and Peach as the semis and then play your national title game.
 
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You can be the #25 team in country and take Alabama on the road to 5OT and lose on a failed 2 point conversion and you will fall out of the rankings. This is why rankings need to end, end the subjectivity.

Time to adopt the NFL way. Instead of having divisions, you have conferences. If you want, allow 3 wildcards. 5 Power Conference Champs + 2 Power 5 wildcards + 1 non-Power 5 wildcard. 8 team playoff.
 
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Oklahoma didn’t crush them

It was a 3 point game going into the 4th

The final victory was only by 2 scores


That’s not “crushing” anyone
 
KeatonsCorner said:
Oklahoma didn’t crush them

It was a 3 point game going into the 4th

The final victory was only by 2 scores


That’s not “crushing” anyone
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Would you agree that Oklahoma "dominated" Ohio State. Winning by 2 TDs IN COLUMBUS is like 3 TDs in Norman.

Baker Mayfield passed for 386 yards and 3 TDs with no interceptions and an 87.5 QB rating to 183 yards, NO TDs and 1 interception with a 21.1 QB rating for J.T. Barrett.

Ohio State had only 64 more rushing yards than Oklahoma.

FOUR Sooner receivers had more yards than ANY Buckeye receiver.

Oklahoma had 27 first downs to 21 for Ohio State.

You may not want to use "crush," but surely you'll settle for "dominated."

The numbers prove that.

Oklahoma did lost 2 fumbles and Ohio State none. I'll give you that.

 
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It's a joke. CFB will always be the most poorly run major American league. Too much corruption, too many powerful hands out and too many powerful hands willing to pay the hands that are out.

Anyone expecting this sport to ever be run fairly or cleanly has their head in the sand. Tune out the nonsense and just watch your school's games.
 
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Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
Would you agree that Oklahoma "dominated" Ohio State. Winning by 2 TDs IN COLUMBUS is like 3 TDs in Norman.

Baker Mayfield passed for 386 yards and 3 TDs with no interceptions and an 87.5 QB rating to 183 yards, NO TDs and 1 interception with a 21.1 QB rating for J.T. Barrett.

Ohio State had only 64 more rushing yards than Oklahoma.

FOUR Sooner receivers had more yards than ANY Buckeye receiver.

Oklahoma had 27 first downs to 21 for Ohio State.

You may not want to use "crush," but surely you'll settle for "dominated."

The numbers prove that.

Oklahoma did lost 2 fumbles and Ohio State none. I'll give you that.
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Ohio State had a 10-3 lead in the Third Quarter. If Ohio State was dominated, as you claim, then you must have been humiliated as you traveled home to Ohio on Saturday, as you had just witnessed a wire-to-wire butt whipping.
 
tOSUGrad90 said:
Ohio State had a 10-3 lead in the Third Quarter. If Ohio State was dominated, as you claim, then you must have been humiliated as you traveled home to Ohio on Saturday, as you had just witnessed a wire-to-wire butt whipping.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400934502

You were out gained by 140 yards and their was a good size margin in time of possession.
OU won the game and it was not close.
You can call their win by any name you want but it was not a game Ohio State had a chance to win.
 
What about Ohio State 10, Oklahoma 3 in the Third Quarter don't you understand, GrandadTard? Getting dominated is losing from wire-to-wire and surrendering a half a hundred on your home field.
 
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tOSUGrad90 said:
What about Ohio State 10, Oklahoma 3 in the Third Quarter don't you understand, GrandadTard? Getting dominated is losing from wire-to-wire and surrendering a half a hundred on your home field.
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Whatever way you want to explain the game it is still a loss at home by 15 points.
Championship caliber teams do not lose at home by 15.
Ohio St is still at #6.
So I guess you have to win out and see what happens.
Why try to justify something that already happens.

Oklahoma is a national brand as well and carries a lot of Texas. Ohio St will not jump over them until OU loses
 
YourGranddadsSon said:
Whatever way you want to explain the game it is still a loss at home by 15 points.
Championship caliber teams do not lose at home by 15.
Ohio St is still at #6.
So I guess you have to win out and see what happens.
Why try to justify something that already happens.

Oklahoma is a national brand as well and carries a lot of Texas. Ohio St will not jump over them until OU loses
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The National Football Champion Ohio State Buckeyes of 2014-2015 lost early in the season by 14 points at home to a Virginia Tech team not nearly as good as Oklahoma, so you have confirmed your ignorance.
 
tOSUGrad90 said:
The National Football Champion Ohio State Buckeyes of 2014-2015 lost early in the season by 14 points at home to a Virginia Tech team not nearly as good as Oklahoma, so you have confirmed your ignorance.
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In a QB's first career start. That was why Ohio State was given the benefit of the doubt
Your QB had over 30 career starts against OU.
 
YourGranddadsSon said:
Goes to show that USC was the real champion that year and they went into the bowl season ranked #1 in both polls.
It should have been USC/OU or USC/LSU but not LSU/OU
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Of course then, Oklahoma lost on a neutral field by 28. Southern Cal also lost to an unranked team. I guess they just shouldn't have had a champion that year.
 
YourGranddadsSon said:
Whatever way you want to explain the game it is still a loss at home by 15 points.
Championship caliber teams do not lose at home by 15.
Ohio St is still at #6.
So I guess you have to win out and see what happens.
Why try to justify something that already happens.

Oklahoma is a national brand as well and carries a lot of Texas. Ohio St will not jump over them until OU loses
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This. I understand Ohio State getting the benefit of the doubt every once in awhile. But when they are magically always on the receiving end of the benefit of the doubt is what makes the sport such a farce. Not even trying to say that Ohio State isnt good, but the reality is they have a massive fanbase and command the viewership of a lot of fans who simply want to see them lose. While thats all well and good, that fact shouldnt ever be a factor in determining a championship, yet here we are.

What makes the NFL so much better than CFB is that the league's most popular team can have 20 years of irrelevance and heartbreak and wont be propped up by factors outside of the lines.
 
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tOSUGrad90 said:
What about Ohio State 10, Oklahoma 3 in the Third Quarter don't you understand, GrandadTard? Getting dominated is losing from wire-to-wire and surrendering a half a hundred on your home field.
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The only score that counts is the one when the final gun goes off. What was the score then?
 
Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
Would you agree that Oklahoma "dominated" Ohio State. Winning by 2 TDs IN COLUMBUS is like 3 TDs in Norman.

Baker Mayfield passed for 386 yards and 3 TDs with no interceptions and an 87.5 QB rating to 183 yards, NO TDs and 1 interception with a 21.1 QB rating for J.T. Barrett.

Ohio State had only 64 more rushing yards than Oklahoma.

FOUR Sooner receivers had more yards than ANY Buckeye receiver.

Oklahoma had 27 first downs to 21 for Ohio State.

You may not want to use "crush," but surely you'll settle for "dominated."

The numbers prove that.

Oklahoma did lost 2 fumbles and Ohio State none. I'll give you that.
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No it isn’t, even if you want to make some BS slide rule
 
Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
Iowa State beat Oklahoma and TCU but is ranked below both because of 2 losses. But you could argue that Iowa State is better than both NOW because they are in the Cyclones' 4-game winning streak.

It's so subjective.

If Ohio State gets in again, how do you leave out Penn State if the Nittany Lions win out? Only 1 point separates them.

If Alabama loses to Georgia by 1 point, how do you leave either out?

8-team playoff is better. I know, 9th team will bitch, but that would allow for 5 Power conference champs plus 3 at-large. That also makes the conference title games de facto part of the playoffs.

If that sounds like the BCS, maybe they had it right till they watered down the computer rankings because humans wanted to control it and they didn't name 4 or 8 teams to the playoffs.
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The solution is easy, but it's not about a solution or having a real champion...it's about the name recognition and money. I think you're pretty much on target with your thoughts on this one.

I've said it before but I believe each power five champ should be in and the highest ranking team in the group of 5 should be in. That leaves 2 at-large...they can handle that however makes the most sense. If they want to continue to suck on Notre Dame then have at it...you know they're just looking for a reason to put them in. Hell just make Notre Dame an automatic qualifier every year. That leave one at-large.

Personally I think the at-large bids should go to the 2 highest ranking power 5 teams that did't win their conference title. If the golden domers don't like it...tough shit, join a conference.
 
Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
If all those lopsided proofs mean nothing to you, then I guess there's no reasoning with you. You are 100% right about whatever you said, will say and will think. Feel better?
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The the difference was that obvious, these two teams wouldn’t be lined up neck and neck at #5 and #6

Are does this mean you’re dropping that “only Wins and Losses matter” act now?

“2 TDs in Columbus is like 3 TDs in Norman”

What the hell does that even mean? lol?
 
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YourGranddadsSon said:
In a QB's first career start. That was why Ohio State was given the benefit of the doubt
Your QB had over 30 career starts against OU.
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Because you don't know anything about Ohio State, you omitted that fact Urban hired a new offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach before this season. The Oklahoma loss was the best thing to happen to Ohio State, as it convinced Urban to hand the reins over to Kevin Wilson and Ryan Day to develop Ohio State's vertical passing game. Barrett has improved in this area by leaps and bounds since mid-September, as evidenced by the fact that he completed his last 16 pass attempts to go 33-39 for more than 300 yards on Saturday vs. a better defense than Oklahoma's defense.
 
KeatonsCorner said:
The the difference was that obvious, these two teams wouldn’t be lined up neck and neck at #5 and #6

Are does this mean you’re dropping that “only Wins and Losses matter” act now?

“2 TDs in Columbus is like 3 TDs in Norman”

What the hell does that even mean? lol?
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It's easier to win by 3 TDs at home than to win by 2 TDs on the road. Stats prove it. Particularly in Columbus. I'm not the only one who made their claim. National sports analysts -- one calling it an "ass-whipping" -- did, too, about how hard it is to win in Columbus. So go after them, too. And they aren't even "gramps."
 
Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
It's easier to win by 3 TDs at home than to win by 2 TDs on the road. Stats prove it. Particularly in Columbus. I'm not the only one who made their claim. National sports analysts -- one calling it an "ass-whipping" -- did, too, about how hard it is to win in Columbus. So go after them, too. And they aren't even "gramps."
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Stats don’t prove that...
 
tOSUGrad90 said:
Because you don't know anything about Ohio State, you omitted that fact Urban hired a new offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach before this season. The Oklahoma loss was the best thing to happen to Ohio State, as it convinced Urban to hand the reins over to Kevin Wilson and Ryan Day to develop Ohio State's vertical passing game. Barrett has improved in this area by leaps and bounds since mid-September, as evidenced by the fact that he completed his last 16 pass attempts to go 33-39 for more than 300 yards on Saturday vs. a better defense than Oklahoma's defense.
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Better defense?
I doubt that. Penn State has holes throughout their secondary
 
Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
It's easier to win by 3 TDs at home than to win by 2 TDs on the road. Stats prove it. Particularly in Columbus. I'm not the only one who made their claim. National sports analysts -- one calling it an "ass-whipping" -- did, too, about how hard it is to win in Columbus. So go after them, too. And they aren't even "gramps."
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Well, Oklahoma lost to Ohio State by three touchdowns at HOME last season, so your theory is bewildering. Moreover, Ohio State has lost at HOME more often than in true ROAD games the past four seasons. Of course, all that this means is that Ohio State usually loses one game per season at home, and none on the road. LOL
 
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