Coal is coming back

[Op2]

You're way behind the times, dude. Are you even looking at the dates on the stuff you cite? The percentage of our energy that comes from coal has been declining for awhile now. It's in the 30-35% range now.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

Notice that the decline began well before 2009 when Obama got into office.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.ELC.COAL.ZS?locations=US
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.ELC.COAL.ZS?locations=US
Here's another one if you prefer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/power-plants/?utm_term=.3817841b9f8e

 

[Op2]

Most coal is purchased for power plants
About 93% of the coal consumed in the United States is used to generate electricity. In 2015, about 33% of total U.S. electricity generation was from coal. When based only on the cost per million British thermal units (Btu), coal has been the least expensive fossil fuel used to generate electricity since 1976.

Full article
Energy explained: (Coal prices and Outlook)
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=coal_prices

Click on the US Energy Facts tab of the page you linked to then scroll down.

 

[atlkvb]

Click on the US Energy Facts tab of the page you linked to then scroll down.

I did read through most of it before I linked it Op2. The main point (unarguable) that even given it's costs outside of power generation, coal is still the cheapest and most available source of all energy sources.

I find in my research it is often hidden in favor of the sexier and popularly inspired renewable sources, but if you just dig a little deeper and look for direct side-by-side comparisons which admittedly they don't like to show you...coal is hands down the cheapest. Not even arguable.

 

[WVU82]

 

[atlkvb]

You're way behind the times, dude. Are you even looking at the dates on the stuff you cite? The percentage of our energy that comes from coal has been declining for awhile now. It's in the 30-35% range now.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

Notice that the decline began well before 2009 when Obama got into office.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.ELC.COAL.ZS?locations=US
Here's another one if you prefer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/power-plants/?utm_term=.3817841b9f8e

Coal was roughly 30% of fossil fuels which dwarf renewables...and among fossil fuels coal is the most abundant and still cheapest

Sources of electric power generation in U.S. (2016)
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

Electricity in the United States (2016)
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=electricity_in_the_united_states

 

[bamaEER]

I did read through most of it before I linked it Op2. The main point (unarguable) that even given it's costs outside of power generation, coal is still the cheapest and most available source of all energy sources.

I find in my research it is often hidden in favor of the sexier and popularly inspired renewable sources, but if you just dig a little deeper and look for direct side-by-side comparisons which admittedly they don't like to show you...coal is hands down the cheapest. Not even arguable.

Anthropogenic mercury. Done.

 

[atlkvb]

Anthropogenic mercury. Done.

less than .05 per killowatt hour...Approved!

 

[atlkvb]

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It's the Obama economy don't you know?

 

[Op2]

I did read through most of it before I linked it Op2. The main point (unarguable) that even given it's costs outside of power generation, coal is still the cheapest and most available source of all energy sources.

I find in my research it is often hidden in favor of the sexier and popularly inspired renewable sources, but if you just dig a little deeper and look for direct side-by-side comparisons which admittedly they don't like to show you...coal is hands down the cheapest. Not even arguable.

It is not the cheapest because of the externalities involved. Who pays for those? Not the consumer at the point of sale.

Of course there's still way more coal used that renewables. Is that some kind of shock? It will be that way for awhile of course, decades in fact, but the slow, inevitable shift is now happening.

 

[atlkvb]

You're way behind the times, dude. Are you even looking at the dates on the stuff you cite? The percentage of our energy that comes from coal has been declining for awhile now. It's in the 30-35% range now.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

Notice that the decline began well before 2009 when Obama got into office.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.ELC.COAL.ZS?locations=US
Here's another one if you prefer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/power-plants/?utm_term=.3817841b9f8e

Op2 if you're current with the times, what are we powering our energy needs with today?

What's the cheapest source among our current choices?

What is the most available resource under those choices?

What do markets tend to do with goods and services when you factor costs vs supply?

As you honestly answer those questions your confirmed choice will be:

Coal.

 

[atlkvb]

It is not the cheapest because of the externalities involved. Who pays for those? Not the consumer at the point of sale.

Of course there's still way more coal used that renewables. Is that some kind of shock? It will be that way for awhile of course, decades in fact, but the slow, inevitable shift is now happening.

You can factor in the "externalities" Op2 and even given that canard coal is still the cheapest. Your costs can't be quantified because of so many variables involved but investors look at coal as a commodity and don't factor in your costs.

Consumers who pay electric bills only look at one line..."pay this amount"...and coal is your answer for them given all the choices "externalities" included.

Don't start talking economics with me, you haven't taken your remedial classes yet and this is a Master's level course Op2.

 

[wvu2007]

China’s coal use peaked in 2013 and they’re transitioning away from it.

LOL!

 

[atlkvb]

China coal surge puts supply record, power jump within reach

China's new coal output rate, hiked this week in the teeth of an energy crunch, puts it on pace to produce more of the fuel this year than ever before if the increase is sustained, according to Reuters' calculations based on official Beijing data.

www.reuters.com

excerpt:

Summary

• Daily rate of 11.6 mln T would be record if averaged in Oct
• Sustained surge would mean 1 Bln T in Q4, near 4 Bln T for 2021
• Extra Oct coal supply could lift power output by 6.7% from Sep
• Ramped up coal output to ease worries over economic growth
• But early cold snap, winter will bring fresh power demand surge

Leftists like @bamaEER are such lemmings 😏

 

[atlkvb]

Oh and btw...for you "climate change" activists out there so anxious for China to join the rest of the world in combating global warming? Well the Chinese are giving you all a great big YOU!!!!!

excerpt from above linked article:

The surge in coal output comes just days before world leaders meet in Glasgow for the U.N. COP26 summit on climate change - accelerated by the large emissions caused by burning coal and other dirty fuels. read more

China's coal output is on track to hit a new all-time record in October if the latest output pace is maintained
So far, there is still no announcement on whether Chinese President Xi Jinping will attend the COP26 talks, which clouds the prospects for China's commitments to global climate cooperation

Typical Leftist's reaction over China's commitment to halt man made "global warming"

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

China says one thing, and then does the complete opposite because they know the US media won’t retract a story or challenge them.

Has the libtards in here lapping up every word they say.

 

[atlkvb]

China says one thing, and then does the complete opposite because they know the US media won’t retract a story or challenge them.

Has the libtards in here lapping up every word they say.

The Chicoms know we're just a bunch of marshmallow soft pablum slurpers. They control the media that brainwashes the Leftist unwashed. 😏

 

[WVU82]

 

[Christian96]

well, not really.

http://www.publicnewsservice.org/20...tation-sale-dubbed-corporate-welfare/a59920-1

LOL countrywoes89 wrong again