Coal is coming back
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Interesting.
"Power companies have moved to shift several coal plants from risky, deregulated markets to West Virginia's regulated market in recent years. "
You can sit and waste tax dollars hoping for coal miners and their families fail and starve. They dont care. They just work hard.
Good to see countrywrong and his hatred of Americans is still going strong.
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Americans can't work in plants that produce electricity from natural gas?
These people have ZERO ability to think through an issue. And their vote counts just as much as mine, SMDH.
It's going to take some time for coal producers and utility companies to ramp up, purchase the latest scrubbers and other "clean coal" technology, and gear production schedules up to meet power demands in the immediate and near future.
Coal's bigger promise is long term as a reliable cheap source of energy....as well as a legitimate export commodity that will dramatically improve our balance of trade internationally.
The important thing to remember, is that coal is no longer artificially expensive from overreaching environmental controls. It can now compete on the global market with other energy sources and in many cases win that battle fair and square because of this guy
Clean Coal's long term promise for energy stability:
https://www.wired.com/2014/03/clean-coal/
Coal's bigger promise is long term as a reliable cheap source of energy....as well as a legitimate export commodity that will dramatically improve our balance of trade internationally.
The important thing to remember, is that coal is no longer artificially expensive from overreaching environmental controls. It can now compete on the global market with other energy sources and in many cases win that battle fair and square because of this guy
Clean Coal's long term promise for energy stability:
https://www.wired.com/2014/03/clean-coal/
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Um..yeah...really!
Coal on the rise on US, China, India
https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...rise-in-china-us-india-after-record-2016-drop
Much maligned Coal staging a huge comeback
http://fortune.com/2016/08/17/coal-prices-comeback/
Coal production and jobs expected to come back this year
http://fortune.com/2017/04/07/coal-mining-jobs
Then why did they agree to this deal?
China agrees to buy more U.S. Coal:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/china-buys-more-us-coal-sends-north-korea-packing/article/2620041
or what about this?
American Coal can fuel friendship with China
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/04/american-coal-can-fuel-friendship-with-china/
The latest analysis from the International Energy Agency (IEA) and Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency reflects China’s significant progress.
Coal consumption in China likely peaked in 2013, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA). Moreover, global energy-related carbon dioxide emissions have stayed nearly flat since 2013, due in large part to China’s decreasing reliance on coal. 2015 was the first time China’s CO2 emissions decreased in the last 15 years, while renewable energy capacity has increased significantly over the past three years.
http://www.wri.org/blog/2017/01/china’s-decline-coal-consumption-drives-global-slowdown-emissions
Demand for steam coal, which in the first half of 2017 made up more than 90% of U.S. coal production, is driven by coal-fired electricity generation. In recent years, coal has lost part of its electricity generation share to other fuels, but it still accounted for 30% of the U.S. electricity generation mix in the first half of 2017 compared with natural gas and renewables (including hydro) at 31% and 20%, respectively.
The largest reductions in demand for steam coal in the second quarter of 2017 occurred in Illinois, Kansas, and Minnesota, which together accounted for nearly half of the total U.S. decline in steam coal consumption. The overall decline in coal demand resulted in a reduction of 11.7 MMst in total steam coal production in the second quarter of 2017, 8.1 MMst of which was coal mined from the Powder River Basin in Wyoming and Montana.
Thanks Obama.
The largest reductions in demand for steam coal in the second quarter of 2017 occurred in Illinois, Kansas, and Minnesota, which together accounted for nearly half of the total U.S. decline in steam coal consumption. The overall decline in coal demand resulted in a reduction of 11.7 MMst in total steam coal production in the second quarter of 2017, 8.1 MMst of which was coal mined from the Powder River Basin in Wyoming and Montana.
Thanks Obama.
Yes but.....
China will continue using coal as a major energy source for the next 3 decades
https://www.instituteforenergyresea...nue-to-use-coal-as-a-major-generating-source/
Anyone who claimed the NFL isn't losing money over this fiasco, ..... well that was too easy.I'd quit while I was ahead but country loves to be punished.
In decline. In due time, coal chunks will be nothing more than museum props, next to buggy whips.
no...thank you creators, engineers, and developers of this:
Clean coal technology
http://www.cleancoaltechnologiesinc.com/
Clean coal technology explained:
http://www.theenergycollective.com/lizmayes/2391218/clean-coal-explained
But executives at the nation’s largest electric utilities say Mr. Trump’s announcement and the eventual fate of the regulations known as the Clean Power Plan make little difference to them. They still plan to retire coal plants — although perhaps at a slightly slower pace — and, more significant, they have no plans to build new ones.
“For us, it really doesn’t change anything,” said Jeff Burleson, vice president of system planning at Southern Company, an Atlanta-based utility that provides electricity to 44 million people across the Southeast, of the prospective rollback of the Clean Power Plan. “Whatever happens in the near term in the current administration doesn’t affect our long-term planning for future generation,” he said.
As do most electric utilities, Southern Company plans its investment on a 50-year horizon, the expected life span of a new power plant. Its planners do not see coal as economically viable in that time frame.
With or without the Clean Power Plan, power companies say, coal is simply no longer the fuel of choice for keeping the lights on in America — and they do not expect it to make a comeback. Cheaper natural gas and renewable sources like wind and solar power have replaced it.
“We’ll continue to grow the renewables portion of our business and meanwhile rely on natural gas, but we don’t see investing in new coal,” Mr. Burleson said.
A decade-long boom in extracting gas and oilfrom rock in a process called hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, has led to a glut in natural gas, causing its price to plummet below that of coal. Electric utilities have turned away from buying coal and toward the cheaper fuel, a market shift was already underway well before Mr. Obama announced the Clean Power Plan.
Thanks again Obama.
“For us, it really doesn’t change anything,” said Jeff Burleson, vice president of system planning at Southern Company, an Atlanta-based utility that provides electricity to 44 million people across the Southeast, of the prospective rollback of the Clean Power Plan. “Whatever happens in the near term in the current administration doesn’t affect our long-term planning for future generation,” he said.
As do most electric utilities, Southern Company plans its investment on a 50-year horizon, the expected life span of a new power plant. Its planners do not see coal as economically viable in that time frame.
With or without the Clean Power Plan, power companies say, coal is simply no longer the fuel of choice for keeping the lights on in America — and they do not expect it to make a comeback. Cheaper natural gas and renewable sources like wind and solar power have replaced it.
“We’ll continue to grow the renewables portion of our business and meanwhile rely on natural gas, but we don’t see investing in new coal,” Mr. Burleson said.
A decade-long boom in extracting gas and oilfrom rock in a process called hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, has led to a glut in natural gas, causing its price to plummet below that of coal. Electric utilities have turned away from buying coal and toward the cheaper fuel, a market shift was already underway well before Mr. Obama announced the Clean Power Plan.
Thanks again Obama.
When we go back to using candles & lanterns at night then maybe we'll stop using coal to generate cheap electricity. Until then, expect coal to be a very affordable energy source to power these computers we're using as well as most of the generating stations that send us the electricity we need to run them.
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For what? Renewables aren't cost effective or cheaper.
excerpt:
"The emission benefits of four of the five low-carbon alternatives per KWH are roughly the same, about five cents per KWH. The benefits of wind and solar, minus their additional costs, are negative".
Full analysis:
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/plan...low-carbon-future-is-not-wind-or-solar-power/
With or without the Clean Power Plan, power companies say, coal is simply no longer the fuel of choice for keeping the lights on in America — and they do not expect it to make a comeback. Cheaper natural gas and renewable sources like wind and solar power have replaced it.
Sorry Trump, you lose again.
#somuchwinning
Sorry Trump, you lose again.
#somuchwinning
10 reasons why coal is cheaper than all other energy sources:
http://www.coaleducation.org/q&a/10_reasons_why_coal.htm
Coal vs other energy sources:
https://www.livestrong.com/article/230062-coal-vs-other-energy-sources/
Coal: Still our cheapest & most abundant energy source:
http://needtoknow.nas.edu/energy/energy-sources/fossil-fuels/coal/
No coal is West Virginia!
Trump at WV rally:
"We're putting coal miners back to work!"
http://www.wtae.com/article/trump-p...t-virginia-campaign-rally-1501799518/11372383
We had a Cornell kid work with the other unit in my building who was studying impacts of mercury in areas where people consume lots of fish. His name was Ping and he was from Canton China. So if anyone thinks China is oblivious to the bad human health impact of coal, forget about it.
Ultra-violet radiation is the most dangerous side effect of solar power generation, but is rarely mentioned.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK304366/
Cuntrywrong thinks Obama was President in the 2nd quarter of 2017. Bless his heart. Lets all say a prayer and ask God to allow him to be right one day.
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