Big12 wasted opportunity

[JustCallMeDad]

You are either completely delusional or just daft. Either way you are letting your own personal ties and hopes dictate your thoughts and/or opinions.

The Big 10 and Pac 12 would take Texas only if they agreed to the conferences terms.

The fact you can' t see the block of ice melting around your feet is sad. Believe what you will, hopefully the ACC will take West Virginia when your left up the creek without a paddle when Texas does what they always do and Oklahoma leaves for the SEC or Big 10.

I am not going to argue with you but the Big XII is not going anywhere just as long as Oklahoma feels like the Big XII best serves their needs.

Proof that it does......
OU and Oklahoma St courting Arkansas. Bob Stoops said a few monthes ago that Arkansas should be in the Big XII

Brett McMurphy- Oklahoma State graduate continues to speak the Big XII narrative on a national platform.

Mike Gundy this week was promoting the Big XII's dominance in Texas.

Doesn't sound like the Oklahoma schools are looking anywhere else.

 

[PlutoDroid]

I am not going to argue with you but the Big XII is not going anywhere just as long as Oklahoma feels like the Big XII best serves their needs.

Proof that it does......
OU and Oklahoma St courting Arkansas. Bob Stoops said a few monthes ago that Arkansas should be in the Big XII

Brett McMurphy- Oklahoma State graduate continues to speak the Big XII narrative on a national platform.

Mike Gundy this week was promoting the Big XII's dominance in Texas.

Doesn't sound like the Oklahoma schools are looking anywhere else.

Good, keep telling yourself that.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I am not going to argue with you but the Big XII is not going anywhere just as long as Oklahoma feels like the Big XII best serves their needs.

Proof that it does......
OU and Oklahoma St courting Arkansas. Bob Stoops said a few monthes ago that Arkansas should be in the Big XII

Brett McMurphy- Oklahoma State graduate continues to speak the Big XII narrative on a national platform.

Mike Gundy this week was promoting the Big XII's dominance in Texas.

Doesn't sound like the Oklahoma schools are looking anywhere else.

Yeah, Arkansas really wants to leave that SEC money. Go troll your own board.

 

[WVUFanForever]

Hey tough guy.......lighten up! I’m giving my opinion just like you do. Stop trying to bully me. It won’t work. Some WVU fans are toxic when a loss happens. WVU is Top 25 and people on this site bitch like WVU is Duke or Kentucky. Holgy is attacked like WVU is Oklahoma standard. Don’t be so emotional Brah.

Didn't answer a question I asked....typical.

 

[JustCallMeDad]

Yeah, Arkansas really wants to leave that SEC money. Go troll your own board.

Do you know how much each SEC school made more than each Big XII university last year.......

6 million. With Oklahoma and Texas' third tier rights both schools made more than any SEC school in media revenue

If Oklahoma can make more money in the Big XII Arkansas can as well because Arkansas' fanbase is the most fanatical in the country. Plus they don't have Oklahoma State to deal with.


Issue is that the GOR, Big XII commissioner's tenure and the media contract all end in 2023.
Arkansas or any school cannot enter until 2023
There is a huge push to bring in Arkansas and Missouri.
Over half of the Missouri boosters want to return and if you saw what happen in South Carolina last night even more want to return.

The issue will be if these universities return how to divide up power.
It really is a pissing contest.


But Arkansas' three biggest boosters want them to return.
The Walton family, Tyson family and Jerry Jones.

Jerry supposedly has said that he would make up any difference in revenue even if it 5 million a year because if Arkansas is in the Big XII it makes the Big XII Championship in his stadium even larger.....


Not as crazy you might think.
It is not the fans but the people in control in Fayetteville.
It is because of this mainly.
Remember the 4 schools listed.......
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deathv...ery-real-and-its-only-getting-worse-refs/amp/

 

[WVUALLEN]

Do you know how much each SEC school made more than each Big XII university last year.......

6 million. With Oklahoma and Texas' third tier rights both schools made more than any SEC school in media revenue

If Oklahoma can make more money in the Big XII Arkansas can as well because Arkansas' fanbase is the most fanatical in the country. Plus they don't have Oklahoma State to deal with.


Issue is that the GOR, Big XII commissioner's tenure and the media contract all end in 2023.
Arkansas or any school cannot enter until 2023
There is a huge push to bring in Arkansas and Missouri.
Over half of the Missouri boosters want to return and if you saw what happen in South Carolina last night even more want to return.

The issue will be if these universities return how to divide up power.
It really is a pissing contest.


But Arkansas' three biggest boosters want them to return.
The Walton family, Tyson family and Jerry Jones.

Jerry supposedly has said that he would make up any difference in revenue even if it 5 million a year because if Arkansas is in the Big XII it makes the Big XII Championship in his stadium even larger.....


Not as crazy you might think.
It is not the fans but the people in control in Fayetteville.
It is because of this mainly.
Remember the 4 schools listed.......
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deathv...ery-real-and-its-only-getting-worse-refs/amp/

Buck is that you? Don't you have to visit the Scout Big 12 conference forum before releasing any Big 12 statements?

The Southeastern Conference financial muscle, showing revenue of $639 million during its 2016 fiscal year, according to its new federal tax return.

SEC's 2016 revenue was roughly two-thirds of the $952 million that the NCAA reported on its most recently available tax return.

 

[JustCallMeDad]

Buck is that you? Don't you have to visit the Scout Big 12 conference forum before releasing any Big 12 statements?

The Southeastern Conference financial muscle, showing revenue of $639 million during its 2016 fiscal year, according to its new federal tax return.

SEC's 2016 revenue was roughly two-thirds of the $952 million that the NCAA reported on its most recently available tax return.

We are talking about money that goes to the universities for media revenue.

Just writing numbers does not mean anything unless you have proof to back up your claim.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/97400990

Here is the SEC media revenue.
Between 41.9 and 39.1 without third tier rights.

http://lubbockonline.com/news/sport...unces-record-revenue-distribution-348-million

Here is the Big XII media revenue.
34.8 with third tier rights not included

Texas makes 15 million a year off of third tier rights so that is 49.8
http://www.espn.com/espn/news/story?id=6037857
Oklahoma makes 7 million a year so that is 41.8 equal to the highest SEC school that I believe is Georgia.


Here is the ACC media revenue that is on the decline

Less than 30 million a school...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/101881486

 

[JustCallMeDad]

This is why the ACC promised Florida State the revenue to compete with Florida with the ACC network but the ACC has failed to produce.

If needed in 2023 if everything works out the newly expanded Big XII would make a move on Clemson and Florida St. with the other ACC Southern Schools picking between the B1G and the SEC.

Texas can buyout the GOR and there is a chance Carolina would cancel the GOR along with ESPN so N Carolina and the others could exit

Here is the analysis of FSU and the Big XII in 2012

In May 2012, several Florida State University figures sent decidedly mixed messages about that school's future in the ACC, expressing at least some interest in a move to the Big 12. First, on May 12, as the ACC's annual spring meetings were about to begin, the chairman of the school's board of trustees, Andy Haggard, blasted the conference's newest media rights deal, telling an FSU fan site that the school "unanimously" favored "seeing what the Big 12 might have to offer". However, his statement was inaccurate on some key points of the deal.[27][28] On the same day, head football coach Jimbo Fisher told the Orlando Sentinel, "There have been no official talks, but I think you always have to look out there to see what's best for Florida State. If that [jumping to the Big 12] is what's best for Florida State, then that's what we need to do."[27] In the meantime, FSU president Eric Barron sent out a statement from his email account that listed four reasons to move to the Big 12, followed by seven reasons why FSU should stay in the ACC.[27] Barron also took a dig at the Big 12, saying that the school's faculty considered it "academically weaker" than the ACC.[28] The mixed messages continued in the following days. Former FSU football All-American Derrick Brooks, also a former member of the FSU board of trustees, appeared on the Tim Brando Show, a national sports talk program, and claimed that the Big 12 was actively pursuing Florida State.[28] All this led CBS Sports' Tony Barnhart to state that "the speculation on Florida State's future is at DEFCON 1."[28] Finally, when FSU athletic director Randy Spetman was asked for comment on the rumors surrounding the school's future plans, all he said was "I don't know how Derrick got that."[28]

 

[WVUALLEN]

Nobody is leaving the SEC.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

I am not going to argue with you but the Big XII is not going anywhere just as long as Oklahoma feels like the Big XII best serves their needs.

Proof that it does......
OU and Oklahoma St courting Arkansas. Bob Stoops said a few monthes ago that Arkansas should be in the Big XII

Brett McMurphy- Oklahoma State graduate continues to speak the Big XII narrative on a national platform.

Mike Gundy this week was promoting the Big XII's dominance in Texas.

Doesn't sound like the Oklahoma schools are looking anywhere else.

You are a dummy bruh I’ll give ya that

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Shows you how wrong you are.

Texas is the only school that every conference wants.

PAC 12 is in a mess
SEC is at 14
B1G is at 14
ACC is at 14

There are not many chairs left at the table and with ND and Texas out there no conference will use their last two remaining chairs on any other school in the conference besides Texas.

The Big XII is on stable ground.
The ACC is what everyone is thinking about raiding just like the Big East.

Carolina made the mistake of allowing Syracuse and BC into their conference.
Problem is neither school carries enough revenue to save the ACC.

No ACC school is a member of the Top 15 revenue schools.
Two Big XII schools are.
Texas and Oklahoma.
Schools like Florida St who is behind Florida
Clemson who is behind S Carolina
Louisville who is behind Kentucky
Ga Tech who is behind Georgia
Are looking at that.

Guess what SEC State has a non SEC school having more revenue than the SEC school

Texas. Only school that can stand up to the SEC.
These ACC schools in SEC states want to be a part of that

Hey moron Newsflash: ND isn’t out there LOL.

 

[ColoradoMountaineer]

Buck is that you? Don't you have to visit the Scout Big 12 conference forum before releasing any Big 12 statements?

The Southeastern Conference financial muscle, showing revenue of $639 million during its 2016 fiscal year, according to its new federal tax return.

SEC's 2016 revenue was roughly two-thirds of the $952 million that the NCAA reported on its most recently available tax return.

At least you know now that Buck has 50 screen names.

 

[SECAggyFan]

Hey moron Newsflash: ND isn’t out there LOL.

ND is not a member of the ACC in football and never will be.

 

[SECAggyFan]

Nobody is leaving the SEC.

Wrong....

The Southern Universities created the SIAA in 1894 that featured the flagship of every Southern state except for Arkansas. Maryland was included in this as well.
The Carolina, Virgina and Maryland schools took off in the seventh year.
The Texas schools took off in 1908.

The Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association(SIAA) was one of the first collegiate athletic conferences in the United States. Twenty-seven of the current Division I FBS (formerly Division I-A) football programs were members of this conference at some point, as were at least 19 other schools. Every member of the current Southeastern Conference except Arkansas and Missouri, as well as six of the 15 current members of the Atlantic Coast Conference plus the University of Texas at Austin, now of the Big 12 Conference (and previously of the now defunct Southwest Conference), formerly held membership in the SIAA.

The SIAA was reformed, without the Texas schools who had the SWC, with the Southern Conference and a few years in UVA took off. 15 years into the conference the schools that are in the SEC except for South Carolina took off.

Throughout the years schools have left the SEC but the main ones are Tulane and Georgia Tech both because of pissing contest with Alabama.

Georgia Tech and the Atlanta metro for a long time remained outside of the SEC's realm up until the 90's when they move their championship game there.


Yes schools will leave every conference and have left every conference before.
I think the B1G has been the main one that hasn't had any issues for the longest time but even they have removed members and added members through the years.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

ND is not a member of the ACC in football and never will be.

Man are you a slow turd. Where did I post that ND was a member or was gonna be a member?