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A former Trump official admitted he helped Rudy Giuliani with the fake electors scheme

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Asking to validate the election results is not stealing the election. Are you autistic?
Not that it matters, the world is burning down around this current administration. Who cares about Trump at this point? We’re living in a calamity. Focus on this fvck head and the Dem party’s antics in general and let’s get them the hell out of power.

We have less than a year of having to deal with them. Win the house and Senate and then Biden is a lame duck unable to do anything for the following two years. He’ll be ineffective, their movement will be neutralized, then we coast back into the WhiteHouse in 24.

Stay focused on the prize.
 
Not that it matters, the world is burning down around this current administration. Who cares about Trump at this point? We’re living in a calamity. Focus on this fvck head and the Dem party’s antics in general and let’s get them the hell out of power.

We have less than a year of having to deal with them. Win the house and Senate and then Biden is a lame duck unable to do anything for the following two years. He’ll be ineffective, their movement will be neutralized, then we coast back into the WhiteHouse in 24.

Stay focused on the prize.
Which is why Trump’s name shouldnt be anywhere near the Republican Party. Have you read anything about Tulsi Gabbard? I would think you would like her, for a dem that is
 
Which is why Trump’s name shouldnt be anywhere near the Republican Party. Have you read anything about Tulsi Gabbard? I would think you would like her, for a dem that is
I do like her, for a Dem. She might as well change to an Independent. She’s done in the Dem party. She’s a pariah.

I want Trump’s influence all over the GOP. I want the MAGA agenda in every candidate we have or I won’t vote for them.
 
I do like her, for a Dem. She might as well change to an Independent. She’s done in the Dem party. She’s a pariah.

I want Trump’s influence all over the GOP. I want the MAGA agenda in every candidate we have or I won’t vote for them.
Exactly. I don’t care what BS the msm keeps spouting. Trump was a great POTUS. Best in decades. That’s why they must keep brainwashing Americans to believe he was bad. His agenda is EXACTLY what this country needs.
 
I do like her, for a Dem. She might as well change to an Independent. She’s done in the Dem party. She’s a pariah.

I want Trump’s influence all over the GOP. I want the MAGA agenda in every candidate we have or I won’t vote for them.
But it doesnt matter if he, and his people were hatching a scheme to regain control of the Executive Branch UnConstitutionally? Doesnt matter if MAGA talking heads are spreading misleading, and sometimes straight up false information, on campaign fraud?

I think her voice remains in the party, even marginalized, and i could see it becoming a louder voice, if Pelosi and Shumer die soon.
 
But it doesnt matter if he, and his people were hatching a scheme to regain control of the Executive Branch UnConstitutionally? Doesnt matter if MAGA talking heads are spreading misleading, and sometimes straight up false information, on campaign fraud?

I think her voice remains in the party, even marginalized, and i could see it becoming a louder voice, if Pelosi and Shumer die soon.
No, they none of that matters. It’s all context. This is Russian collusion all over again in their attempts to fool and fuel the hatred from the rubes who don’t understand politics. They’re trying to marginalize his influence because the MAGA agenda threatens the fiefdom they’ve created in Washington. MAGA threatens the grift.

I don’t trust any aspect of a partisan investigation by the house. And again, Trump isn’t in the WhiteHouse. Biden is. I’m focused on Biden’s performance and policies. If Trump decides to run again, this will all be fair game. At present, he’s a former President and any and all of this is designed to try and marginalize him as they see him as the biggest threat to 24. They’re trying to use him to damage the Red wave in 22 mid-terms. If you don’t see it, you’re one of the rubes.
 
No, they none of that matters. It’s all context. This is Russian collusion all over again in their attempts to fool and fuel the hatred from the rubes who don’t understand politics. They’re trying to marginalize his influence because the MAGA agenda threatens the fiefdom they’ve created in Washington. MAGA threatens the grift.

I don’t trust any aspect of a partisan investigation by the house. And again, Trump isn’t in the WhiteHouse. Biden is. I’m focused on Biden’s performance and policies. If Trump decides to run again, this will all be fair game. At present, he’s a former President and any and all of this is designed to try and marginalize him as they see him as the biggest threat to 24. They’re trying to use him to damage the Red wave in 22 mid-terms. If you don’t see it, you’re one of the rubes.
Fair enough - at least you see its relevance as it pertains to 2024
 
Fair enough - at least you see its relevance as it pertains to 2024
Sure I do. They’re going to gin up anything and everything to continue the same narrative from 7 years ago that they’ve not come close to proving anything definitive on.

What would be really cool is if and when the FBI gets around to investigating Hunter’s laptop.
 
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Sure I do. They’re going to gin up anything and everything to continue the same narrative from 7 years ago that they’ve not come close to proving anything definitive on.

What would be really cool is if and when the FBI gets around to investigating Hunter’s laptop.
Your hate of everything left of you is really jacking up your idea of this nation and Democracy. I dont blame an intelligent, hardworking, come from nothing, served our nation, Marine badass like you for despising what the left has framed themselves to be in the national narrative (really since before big O). But dont abandon all your principles for someone that matches your agenda. There are plenty of others that can advance that agenda, AND quell at least some of the blowback by addressing issues with respect.
 
Your hate of everything left of you is really jacking up your idea of this nation and Democracy. I dont blame an intelligent, hardworking, come from nothing, served our nation, Marine badass like you for despising what the left has framed themselves to be in the national narrative (really since before big O). But dont abandon all your principles for someone that matches your agenda. There are plenty of others that can advance that agenda, AND quell at least some of the blowback by addressing issues with respect.
Trumps worse feature was his approach. Now, I'm not sure how I would have handled all the lies and down right subversion by the dems about the Russian collusion that they themselves were the ones doing the collusion. I know I would have handled the McCain situation different.
 
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Have you read anything about Tulsi Gabbard? I would think you would like her, for a dem that is

She's for a strong border and that's about it. She wants to ban AR-15s. Gun controlists just don't get it. She's for universal healthcare. Just those two stances wouldn't let me vote for her. However, that would depend on her opponent. Trump or DeSantis? She definitely wouln't get my vote.
 
Trumps worse feature was his approach. Now, I'm not sure how I would have handled all the lies and down right subversion by the dems about the Russian collusion that they themselves were the ones doing the collusion. I know I would have handled the McCain situation different.
Trump fought back. He was a counterpuncher. He faced more lies and attacks than any President, ever. While his approach bothered some it also endeared him to others. Why would Trump suck up to McCain, who was one of the ringleaders pushing Russia collusion? Kissing McCain's ass would make Trump a phony. People appreciated a politician who was not a phony.
 
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She's for a strong border and that's about it. She wants to ban AR-15s. Gun controlists just don't get it. She's for universal healthcare. Just those two stances wouldn't let me vote for her. However, that would depend on her opponent. Trump or DeSantis? She definitely wouln't get my vote.
But she IS a voice that, even though asserts policies you dont agree with, is one that makes sense on some issues as well?
 
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She's for a strong border and that's about it. She wants to ban AR-15s. Gun controlists just don't get it. She's for universal healthcare. Just those two stances wouldn't let me vote for her. However, that would depend on her opponent. Trump or DeSantis? She definitely wouln't get my vote.
But she IS a voice that, even though asserts policies you dont agree with, is one that makes sense on some issues as well?
 
But she IS a voice that, even though asserts policies you dont agree with, is one that makes sense on some issues as well?

She's too "big government"....Sure, I like her border stance. I don't want her disarming me. I don't want more government takeover. She isn't going to run anyway, so it doesn't matter, really.
 
She's too "big government"....Sure, I like her border stance. I don't want her disarming me. I don't want more government takeover. She isn't going to run anyway, so it doesn't matter, really.
Maybe you havent noticed, but the Dems are in such bad shape that they woke Biden up to run. An underdog might get quick mojo, if Biden goes back to his naps. Im just curious is there is any dem voice ya’ll dont think is evil.
 
Maybe you havent noticed, but the Dems are in such bad shape that they woke Biden up to run. An underdog might get quick mojo, if Biden goes back to his naps. Im just curious is there is any dem voice ya’ll dont think is evil.
The Dem party is evil. For the good of the country, in its present form, the party needs to be euthanized.
 
Trump fought back. He was a counterpuncher. He faced more lies and attacks than any President, ever. While his approach bothered some it also endeared him to others. Why would Trump suck up to McCain, who was one of the ringleaders pushing Russia collusion? Kissing McCain's ass would make Trump a phony. People appreciated a politician who was not a phony.
Not phony at all, he's an authentic criminal alright, OG.
 
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Trump fought back. He was a counterpuncher. He faced more lies and attacks than any President, ever. While his approach bothered some it also endeared him to others. Why would Trump suck up to McCain, who was one of the ringleaders pushing Russia collusion? Kissing McCain's ass would make Trump a phony. People appreciated a politician who was not a phony.
Trumps problem with McCain started before the Presidency. Same with Liz Chaney and trumps blasting of her dad over wmd. It’s all payback for them
 
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Your hate of everything left of you is really jacking up your idea of this nation and Democracy. I dont blame an intelligent, hardworking, come from nothing, served our nation, Marine badass like you for despising what the left has framed themselves to be in the national narrative (really since before big O). But dont abandon all your principles for someone that matches your agenda. There are plenty of others that can advance that agenda, AND quell at least some of the blowback by addressing issues with respect.
Your premise driving your take on my read is wrong. You’re assuming the allegations as fact and that I’m ignoring that. I think the premise you’re driving off of is an out of context look at the situation with hindsight being applied and a massive agenda driven narrative. In short, to me, it’s a lie, even if it’s true out of context. In the Intel world, everything is context. I know how it works and is implemented.

I don’t want our members to approach or left addressed with respect. They’ve not given respect. Quite the opposite actually. Reference Pelosi’s characterizations dating to her first run as speaker, Obama’s characterization, Hillary’s deplorables, Michelle’s characterization of the left’s moral superiority, and every left leaning MSM’s racist characterizations, even Biden’s Bull Connor rhetoric, and lastly, your rank and file with their virtue signaling at every turn from yard signs to bumper stickers “believing in science”, and every other signal they try to project. They created the binary reality. I didn’t.

They don’t deserve nor have earned respect. Their ideas are bad for America. They deserve to be treated as the charlatans, grifters, and morons they are for their socialist ideology. You don’t get to act like they have for 20 years and then be upset for similar treatment. You earned it. Take it. I want to shove it all down your fvcking throats, with force, if necessary.
 
Your hate of everything left of you is really jacking up your idea of this nation and Democracy. I dont blame an intelligent, hardworking, come from nothing, served our nation, Marine badass like you for despising what the left has framed themselves to be in the national narrative (really since before big O). But dont abandon all your principles for someone that matches your agenda. There are plenty of others that can advance that agenda, AND quell at least some of the blowback by addressing issues with respect.
LOL...Your hate of everything right of you is really jacking up your idea of this nation and Democracy.
 
Your premise driving your take on my read is wrong. You’re assuming the allegations as fact and that I’m ignoring that. I think the premise you’re driving off of is an out of context look at the situation with hindsight being applied and a massive agenda driven narrative. In short, to me, it’s a lie, even if it’s true out of context. In the Intel world, everything is context. I know how it works and is implemented.

I don’t want our members to approach or left addressed with respect. They’ve not given respect. Quite the opposite actually. Reference Pelosi’s characterizations dating to her first run as speaker, Obama’s characterization, Hillary’s deplorables, Michelle’s characterization of the left’s moral superiority, and every left leaning MSM’s racist characterizations, even Biden’s Bull Connor rhetoric, and lastly, your rank and file with their virtue signaling at every turn from yard signs to bumper stickers “believing in science”, and every other signal they try to project. They created the binary reality. I didn’t.

They don’t deserve nor have earned respect. Their ideas are bad for America. They deserve to be treated as the charlatans, grifters, and morons they are for their socialist ideology. You don’t get to act like they have for 20 years and then be upset for similar treatment. You earned it. Take it. I want to shove it all down your fvcking throats, with force, if necessary.
I can understand the viewpoint of a binary reality, and I can also understand the disgust of the condescending rhetoric. But for someone being in intelligence, surely you must both see and understand the strategy of undermining science that many orgs have taken?

Blowback has become a financial strategy on both sides for decades. I think they help each other with soundbytes I hear sometimes. Deplorables? How much cheddar did that put on the table?

I think there will always been substantial differences between Americans, and the directions they think our nation should take. But I think if we could stop this constant blowback in the national narrative, we could begin agreeing on decisions and see them out.

I didnt want the wall, for example, but honestly I am more frustrated now, that we begin something, then fail to see it through, and we are left with waste. I would actually welcome finishing it at this point. We need to move forward from issues. They are doing a good job of solidifying their financial base on both sides.
 
But for someone being in intelligence, surely you must both see and understand the strategy of undermining science that many orgs have taken?
The only people actually undermining science, are the scientists. There are a number of examples discussed here regularly just with regard to COVID. We’ve discussed the manipulation of data on the climate stuff as well. It’s not us questioning them. It’s their position being treated as religion, and it’s imperfect, because such is the nature of science.
 
Some scientists, that are paid for it, are launching invalid attempts to undermine valid science
 
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