Always when discussing subjects here, when cornered, so to speak
- posters result to trading insults as a negotiation weapon.
Obviously if you can't be impressed, with Bill Stewart being senior to
Mike Tomlin, then you are a lost cause and you'll stoop to anything to celebrate your hatred for Bill Stewart.
Your opinions mean Jack sht,
on this subject.
1. You cannot point to a single insult I have levied against you. Also stop implying that I have animosity toward Bill Stewart just for having the opinion that he wasn't a top tier head coach. He was by all accounts a good man, a great ambassador for WVU, and certainly a better human being than RR or Holgorsen. If anyone is arguing from a point of personal animosity it is you toward "PrickRod" and Holgorsen.
2. The whole reason for our exchange is you interjecting yourself into my commentary on Bill Stewarts 2008 - 2010 seasons trending in a direction away from what Nehlen or RR accomplished. Hiring Tomlin has nothing to do with Stewarts performance as head coach at WVU during this time. Feel free to rebut this with your reasoning as to how it does if that is what you believe. Point and counter point.
3. I have thoroughly articulated my case for Stewart's tenure as head coach not being astronomically better than Holgorsen's or Brown's and certainly no where near as good as RR's or Nehlen's. So you can either address the issues I raised below and save some face or you can prove that your opinion mean less than jack shit as you cannot articulate a stance or defense of that stance on the subject.
4. How do you give credit to Stewart for the 2007 Fiesta Bowl yet refuse to give the same consideration for Holgorsen in 2011? My stance is consistent. RR previous performance as HC is more responsible for the 2007 Fiesta Bowl win just as Stewarts previous performance as HC is more responsible for the 2011 Orange Bowl.
5. Auburn was 5-7 on the year in 2008. How is beating them at home any more of a signature win than #7 11-2 Baylor at home in 2014 for Holgorsen? Or even 2021 VT at home for Brown? Certainly its not in the same conversation at 2005 #10 10-3 Georgia or #19 9-3 Louisville for RR.
6. 28-12. Like I said, App State was 32-9. No one in their right mind would say App State was definitively better than WVU during that time because of the quality of those wins and losses. For WVU the best wins of those 28 were #15 10-3 Pitt at home and #23 9-4 Maryland at home (both clearly better than 5-7 Auburn) All other wins were against unranked teams with at least 5 losses on the season. 8 of the losses were to teams that ended with at least 5 losses on the season. One loss was to a 4 loss team and 3 losses were to ranked teams that actually finished with double digit wins (Cincy twice and LSU once.) How is that not a significant downgrade compared to the results of the 3 years preceding his tenure?
7. How is it that the offense with most of its pieces returning went from 38.9 ppg, winning the BE and Fiesta bowl in 2007 to scoring only 24 ppg, losing the BE and limping into the Car Care Bowl in 2008? How is it that the offense with most of its pieces returning went from 26.7 ppg, losing the BE and embarrassing themselves against NC State in the Citrus Bowl in 2010 to 34.9 ppg, winning the BE, and dropping 70 on Clemson in the Orange Bowl in 2011? How is that not an indictment on the coaching staff's performance given the personnel on the roster was not significantly different in these 2 examples?
