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200 billion dollar tax hike starts today....

U.S. unveils tariffs on $200 billion more in Chinese imports ...
"Tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese products amounts to another multibillion-dollar tax on American businesses and families," said Scott Lincicome, a trade lawyer and senior policy analyst for the ...


or maybe this was it ?


Republicans lining up votes for $5 billion tax hike
Republicans lining up votes for $5 billion tax hike. House Minority Leader Jim Durkin said he's putting GOP votes on the spending plan that relies on more than $5 billion in new taxes.


or was it this ?


Jerry Brown, CA Legislature strike $200 billion budget deal ...
Gov. Jerry Brown and California lawmakers struck a $200 billion budget agreement on June 8, 2018. ... tax breaks for undocumented | The Sacramento Bee ... celebrated the increase in funding from ...


oh, this is it....

from the Hilliary website...


Hillary Confirms Trillion Dollar Tax Hike Plan | Americans ...
Hillary Confirms Trillion Dollar Tax Hike Plan ... $350 Billion Income Tax Increase for a ... the recently enacted U.S. Tax Cuts and Jobs Act: Over $200 million in ...

lol...
you idiot...
look at the date...
Tuesday, April 12th, 2016

During an interview with the editorial team of the New York Daily News, Hillary Clinton admitted her tax proposals will increase taxes on the American people by at least $1 trillion over the next ten years.

https://www.atr.org/hillary-confirms-trillion-dollar-tax-hike-plan
 
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No, I just didn't know anything was in place. Hadn't felt a thing myself, and the economy is cruising.
Same can be said for when Obama raised taxes, yet most pro Trumpers on this board seemed to scream bloody murder. It's odd.
 
Would rather be taxed on what I consume rather than my income. It's fairer and helps to ensure that everyone - regardless of income- chips in.
 
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Same can be said for when Obama raised taxes, yet most pro Trumpers on this board seemed to scream bloody murder. It's odd.
Obama's socialist policies are why the economy never prospered after the crash. There's a reason it was the worst recovery, it was headed by a socialist anti american President.
 
I felt those, 4 times. The medical tax on braces X 3 and insurance.
Only the ones you feel matter? That's silly. I've never been wronged by a terrorist or an illegal immigrant. Open borders for all!!

Whether you've "felt" them or not, they are there and they are taking money out of the economy.
 
Obama's socialist policies are why the economy never prospered after the crash. There's a reason it was the worst recovery, it was headed by a socialist anti american President.
Wait, you don't like Obama?
 
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You mean the previous 8 years should ahve been better?
Yes. When have I ever said differently? I point out that it wasn't the myopic wasteland Trumpers pretend, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have been better. Same for now.
 
Most people on the board are against such tax hikes. Glad you are open to the federal government controlling you that way. Best of luck!
I'm open to the Government taking a hold of these Countries that has been systemically raping us for decades over trade if that's what you mean
 
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I'm open to the Government taking a hold of these Countries that has been systemically raping us for decades over trade if that's what you mean
How will they take hold of those countries by making Americans pay more? I don't follow?
 
How will they take hold of those countries by making Americans pay more? I don't follow?
China can’t win a trade war against us. This is having far more of an impact to their economy than it is ours. They’re counting on this being a bluff and riding out the storm, it’s not. He’ll crash their economy before it’s all said and done if they don’t commit to ceasing the currency manipulation.
 
So China has been on the up and up since joining the WTO? That’s what you’re going with?
Nope. We should create some sort of Trans Pacific Partnership with our allies in the region to influence their ways. Nevermind, let's just tax the American consumer.
 
China can’t win a trade war against us. This is having far more of an impact to their economy than it is ours. They’re counting on this being a bluff and riding out the storm, it’s not. He’ll crash their economy before it’s all said and done if they don’t commit to ceasing the currency manipulation.
Nobody wins a trade war. Crash their economy? lol. Good luck.

What is the end goal of the SOLO trade war with China
 
Nope. We should create some sort of Trans Pacific Partnership with our allies in the region to influence their ways. Nevermind, let's just tax the American consumer.
That’s not the direction we’ve decided to take. Might as well stop crying about it and cheer for a quick capitulation by them. No unringing the bell at this point. Just need to hope he has the balls to see it through and that the economy is robust enough to withstand this onslaught.
 
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That’s not the direction we’ve decided to take. Might as well stop crying about it and cheer for a quick capitulation by them. No unringing the bell at this point. Just need to hope he has the balls to see it through and that the economy is robust enough to withstand this onslaught.
Or pressure mounts and we back away from this mistake. Who knows, maybe Congress will take back the reigns and some good will come out of all of this.

Again - what is the end goal with the Trade War?
 
Nobody wins a trade war. Crash their economy? lol. Good luck.

What is the end goal of the SOLO trade war with China
How long do you think it will be solo? My guess is that we’ll end up having some friends come along, like those being pressured in the South China Sea.

Moreover, I’d bet we start seeing a diversification of Asian products, Taiwan, Vietnam, Korea, Thailand etc. as US based businesses begin making strategic moves into other countries to offset their losses in China. That will have an impact on them. Their currency will begin falling off a cliff, reductions in exports to the US will decrease their GDP, hyperinflation will set in. Yea, crash their economy.

You pretend like none of that is on the table, I don’t get it.

We had ways to make this happen without the tariff route, we didn’t elect to go that route. We should have. We didn’t.
 
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Again - what is the end goal with the Trade War?
Speculating here, but my guess is to bring about negative economic actions within China to slow their growth and preserve our status as the economic leader of the world. If I were in the war room, I’d be doing anything I could to break the back of China and their Communist regime. I’d say this is one of multiple fronts we’re going offensively on them. Pressure through economic means to bring about change on a geopolitical front. But I’m simple and don’t really understand much about the world.
 
Speculating here, but my guess is to bring about negative economic actions within China to slow their growth and preserve our status as the economic leader of the world. If I were in the war room, I’d be doing anything I could to break the back of China and their Communist regime. I’d say this is one of multiple fronts we’re going offensively on them. Pressure through economic means to bring about change on a geopolitical front. But I’m simple and don’t really understand much about the world.
We have the ability to break every country in the world economically, one on one. Europe has bowed, Mexico has, canada will and so will China. China's economy has already suffered.
 
How long do you think it will be solo? My guess is that we’ll end up having some friends come along, like those being pressured in the South China Sea.

Moreover, I’d bet we start seeing a diversification of Asian products, Taiwan, Vietnam, Korea, Thailand etc. as US based businesses begin making strategic moves into other countries to offset their losses in China. That will have an impact on them. Their currency will begin falling off a cliff, reductions in exports to the US will decrease their GDP, hyperinflation will set in. Yea, crash their economy.

You pretend like none of that is on the table, I don’t get it.

We had ways to make this happen without the tariff route, we didn’t elect to go that route. We should have. We didn’t.
Almost like a Trans Pacific Partnership...lol Classic.
 
If I were in the war room, I’d be doing anything I could to break the back of China and their Communist regime.
Everything........except use the tools in place and bringing along our allies. Better to alienate ourselves. Good grief. I hope Daddy Fed saves you guys from the meanies.
 
We have the ability to break every country in the world economically, one on one. Europe has bowed, Mexico has, canada will and so will China. China's economy has already suffered.
lmao. How did Europe bow? Mexico? Don't believe all the propaganda bullshit you see/hear.
 
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