Was Zach Frazier. That dude will be the highest ranked OL taken in WV history. He would be a starter on most if not every top 25 team.

Used to be and still is facilities but now added to that is NIL. Facilities, we have done a decent job but going forward I am not sure we will have the dollars to be competitive especially at the level some fans unreasonable expectations are, and think the easy answer is just fire this bum and get another one. We better hope WB can produce on the $ side or we will have trouble just maintaining our current level in football. I hate it but that is the truth as I see it. Basketball is a different story, doesn't take as much $.

But if we let go of Neal last year. And if we would have made a bid on Deion that was better than Colorado... Would our program be in a better.. Worse or same position

need a a new football coach. Until then the Country Roads Trust is hamstrung. The only way we get contributions up to sustainable level every year is to get the average fan to donate $25 -$50 per month. A lot easier to sell that with a new football coach being hired.

15,000 people donating $37.50/per month is $6.7 million dollars. Big money donors aren’t the answer They can only do so much. it’s all of the individual fans that can get this done.

Finding 15k fans shouldn’t be hard to do with a new football coach.

GG has taken a big step and is clearly 1 or more Nicco has not progressed well enough to beat out GG?

a blowout victory...300 yards passing...4 interceptions...I just wanted something to give me some hope...14-7 at halftime...CJ Donaldson...a tight end...offensive. line...4th down conversions...mobile quarterback...few mental errors...let's build on this and LGM

I know, nobody has been waiting for my post of proclamation to tell the real story, but it makes me feel better to do it.

I thought the fight in the team was there.

I think the play calling is still a liability. The trick plays didn’t fool anyone and mostly got blown up.

I think some things looked cleaned up that have plagued us the last 4 years.

The decision making at key points of the game I still just don’t get. It’s like at times Brown overthinks himself, like in the scene from Waterboy…

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And it’s probably a call nobody will agree with me on, and I get that he was down two scores late, but on 4th and 7 on about the 30, I would have tried a field goal rather than go for it. Odds were against making it on 4th & 7. With a field goal, if you make it, you come away with points which I felt the offense needed at that point just for confidence building. You still more than likely need 3 scores to win at that point. Come away with something. It’s one of those calls where regardless of the choice, if it does or doesn’t work people will second guess it.

I was looking at the following graphic and prediction for the season. This guy has WVU finishing 8-4 and winning six of the last seven. Honestly I would call that an incredible coaching job if it happens. I do not see how this team could win six of the last seven. With a lot of breaks, five of the seven are possible. What do you think?

We had chances to make this a game or even win it but it's the same shit from five years ago.

Neal Brown is terrible as a HC and play caller.

The big xii is trash this year, if this team can steadily improve we can stack a few W’s. RR had teams that steadily improved, think 02, 03 and 05.

There’s no reason we can’t win 7 or 8 if we beat Pitt and Texas Tech, if we can’t do that in year 5 of Bean’s regime then he can

And the other times he “went aggressive” on 3rd or 4th down, I feel like is literally just so he could boast after the game about “well I got torched for punting on 4th at Pitt last year, so look at me now.”

It’s year 5 and I feel like he still has zero awareness about how to be a head coach. Then add the quote in the WVU write-up about winning the time of possession garbage when you get boat-raced by 3 scores, when it should have been worse ..

I just can’t wrap my head around the incompetence.

Texas State beat Baylor.
BYU is only beating Sam Houston State 7-0.
Wyoming is beating Texas Tech.

The season is not lost.

I know someone will post Jordan Lesleys defensive stats after Vic left and argue we are just as good etc... but I think the real impact was Vic was the guy with intensity on the Staff. You have to have that. Rich had that intensity.. all his former players talk about it. Dana didn't, which was probably a failing, but the years he had Tony Gibson on the Staff were some his best... intensity factor again...

I don't see anyone as being slightly afraid of Neal. They were of Rich.. I'd put money on it people were afraid of Vic.

Fear is a great motivator.

Pretty much sums up our program. It’s a marry go round of Clowns.

The transfer TE is a great option. Probably should use him a lot more with the limited options at WR

--West Virginia head coach Neal Brown said that they're really good and capable of making the playoff. He isn't discouraged by his team and they were clean with zero turnovers, only one procedure penalty and they managed the game well. He has no doubt that they will bounce back and go onward and upward. He wasn't trying to win a beauty contest they were going to go for it on fourth down and they didn't convert. They didn't convert and for them to win the game they had to turn the ball over and get some penalties. They either blocked the cleanest of anybody in college football or they missed some calls. They are a really good football team and they deserve their ranking and will continue to move up.

--Drew Allar was making his first start and there was a lot of pressure on him. He threw for 300-plus yards in front of a group that was really expecting a lot. Hats off to him because they came out and he was going to have to play well enough to win.
--Brown thought they protected Greene OK, but they didn't execute on the third and fourth down. They dropped one ball on a dig but they got open and they need to be able to hit on some of those. One of the fourth downs and third downs, they had wide receivers open and they didn't get the ball to them.

--Brown felt good about their matchup and the defensive line is better than they got credit for they played the run well but they didn't defend the pass. They ran a lot of rub routes, legal, and crossing routes. When the ball moved away they need to get that cleaned up on the routes across the field because they didn't do a good job defending those.

--There were two instances where they didn't get him with pressure but they protected him. He slid up and outside the pocket and he did a good job moving left and throwing back right.

--West Virginia had a chance to win they got an explosive run and a procedure penalty. Brown felt they had a chance to win and he knows they have a good football team it's a tough place to play and all the preparation is sped up. He knew they needed some breaks but they had some opportunities to get those. Brown is disappointed but he's not discouraged.

--West Virginia didn't play well enough in the secondary and there were some guys that were free. There are some really good passing teams and if they give up that much it's going to be a long season. They are a little bit thin there so they need to get people ready to play.

--Lee Kpogba belonged out there today and the defensive line did some things, too.

--Neal Brown wanted to throw the ball some late and that's why they used those timeouts. Garrett Greene can definitely throw the football.

--You have to score more than 15 to win. This was a tough ask and he felt like they could win the game in the 20s. They better be significantly better by week three. Manny Diaz did a nice job mixing up his read stuff and the third downs and the fourth downs if they can convert those it looks a lot different.

--Brown said he thinks about guys that play like Greene as an artist. He wants him to create art and doesnt want to take his play making skills away.

--Nicco Marchiol needs to play and when they went zero nobody accounts for the quarterback if he would have got wider they have a chance.

The transfer TE is a great option. Probably should use him a lot more with the limited options at WR

It’s bad and and it stinks like cow shit everywhere

Any of us who lived through the 80s and early 90s versus Penn St, Miami, etc knows last night was not that. We have seen games against them when we have been humiliated by the talent difference. That wasn’t the case last night.

So what is the positive? We get a new coaching staff and the rebuild might not be horribly daunting. We aren’t Kansas of 5 years ago. This isn’t a rip down to the studs deal. Frustrating that we have should have started this process last year.

can someone explain to me why, on numerous 3rd & 5 to 3rd & 7 situations, we played 10-12 yds off the line of scrimmage? I haven’t seen good secondary play in years. Tiring….I know the answer, it’s just painful and tiring to watch.