One of us has a history of lying on this board, it isn’t me.
You saw it live last night.....#Unfit
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Herd Mentality? What a moron. He really thinks he is the smartest man in the world........
Con sider that BAD candidate.
Much has b been said recently that tips the field toward the stated beliefs by some that Biden is ONLY a hollow shell and not expected to stain the office, if elected, for any decent length of time. You may have heard him te make reference during a speech to the "...Harris administration...". Ms. Harris also made a similar reference, saying"...the Harris administration with Joe Biden...". The fix is in for people to buy the false idea that Joe B. is not a commie progressive and then have the switch to Ms. Harris who has a reputation of chasing her thoughts and ideas as often as the winds change in the California Mountains.
Could it be that there is even more to this hatched up plan? Could Ms. Harris also be willing to resign shortly after she assumes the office from deranged Joe? This would lead to the assention to the Presidency of Nancy Pelosi IF the democrats hold onto their majority win the house AND she is again the Speaker.. U G H!!!!
This scenario is a death notice to the United States as we would join Venezuela as a once rich/prosperous Country that rushes to the left and its citizens become destitute. I am convinced that the switch of Harris for a senile Biden is highly probable. The part regarding the rise of Pelosi is more speculative but has the potential to occur. Surely there are enough rational citizens in each of the States to vote for the President and guarantee re-election. The future of this great country hinges on the re-buffing of this Socialist/Communist onslaught. Cannot imagine so many may be willing to kill this Country after seeing Trump guide the greatest economy ever seen here and best labor statistics ever for nearly all 'groups'. Hard to understand how the Corona Virus entering the picture has resulted in an acknowledged landslide for Trump to the possibility of a Pelosi Presidency.
Wake up AMERICA.
Republicans will be a disappearing species until they realize that they need to stay out of peoples bedrooms, lives and bodies. Maybe instead of everything steered to big business and the top 1%, they could look at the middle class. While not enthused about Biden, I will not support the GOP with the same old trickle down economics that have failed the last 40 years.
No one poor has ever signed your paycheck, and the bulk of the Trump tax cuts went to the middle class. No Republican is "in your bedroom" but your promiscuity and preference for care free sex with no personal responsibility does NOT give you the right to exterminate innocent human beings who do not ask to be born after you've had your fun.
Finally, I 100% guarantee you do NOT volunteer to send in one dime extra above your legal tax obligation, and you likely take every legal deduction allowed in the law to lower your tax burden....so you are a 100% hypocrite voting for Democrats to tax even more from someone else who earns more than than you are willing to voluntarily send in.
Last two economic collapses in this country has happened under GOP Presidents......this should say something to a lot of people.
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There he is......@atlkvb I’ve given you the benefit of the doubt, two days now I haven’t heard a peep from you regarding the whistleblower and the unlawful hysterectomies of immigrant women in the custody of the US Government....as a Christian and based on your beliefs, I thought you would be the first to stand against this horrible story......
Nice try but statistics show that the overwhelming majority of the money went to the top 1% and big business. Businesses paying zero percent, stock buybacks, increased deficit. The GOP spends like drunken whores and then cry when the Dems spend.....As far as morality, the GOP is in no place to question anyones morals.
Trump's success in the Middle East makes Obama's toothless policies there look like he was actually working for our adversaries. The ignorance posted on Charter schools and school choice vouchers is not even worth mentioning, but more than 70% of minority parents favor them and there are long wait lists for Charter schools that are either open and running or planned.
Trump's economic performance was so good, Leftists tried to give credit for it to Obama...who promised those new jobs weren't coming back before his party voted unanimously against the tax cuts which fueled a large portion of the economic boom.
The Left has no better ideas to fix failing government run schools, no better ideas to extend Peace in the Middle East, no better ideas to keep us energy dominant as the #1 producer in the world and energy independent, no better ideas to reform Prison sentencing, no better ideas to improve minority unemployment and business ownership, and no better Candidate to articulate any of their failed useless competing ideas.
This batshit crazy year is complete for me with an eerdoc rambling run-on paragraph about America becoming Venezuela......how do some of you guys walk outside of your houses without shitting your pants......MAGA not scared of a killer virus but scared to death of a boogeyman named Venezuela.....
I love the MAGATS....King MAGAT covered for the death of a journalist at the hands of the Saudis, he ignored the poisoning done by Russia, he ignores the mass killings going on in N. Korea and China and these pricks have the audacity to scream All Lives Matter.......
Post your statistics backing your claim, or admit that is a bald faced lie. How can you complain about morality when your party has none? Who favors no limits on taxpayer assisted late term abortions? The deficit is a spending problem, not a revenue problem. We were recording record revenues even with the tax cuts (which typically happens when you allow folks to keep more of what they earn) and yet Congress spent beyond what we collected as they've always done in BOTH parties. Why are you only accusing Republicans of fiscal irresponsibility? I thought you folks on the Left want everyone treated equal?
We need a balanced budget amendment so Congress cannot spend one dime beyond what we collect, and we need a line item veto so Nancy can't demand bailouts of corrupt civil service Unions in Blue States who have wasted taxpayer revenues. Which party opposes those common sense fiscal restraints?
I 100% guarantee it's not the party you're accusing of fiscal mismanagement.
Please post yours as well...I need a good laugh. Both parties spend too much but the GOP cries like bitches when the Dems spend. If Biden is elected, they will start the same shit again. I hope he spends 50 trillion.
Record breaking revenue.....roflmao. So what. Obama had record breaking revenue. Revenue historically goes up every year. Nice try though.
You were challenged to provide documented statistics proving this. I'll bet you don't even realize how much of the tax burden the top 1% pays?
You cannot produce one business that pays zero percent in taxes. That is a bald faced lie. Prove it.
Again, you complain about a spending problem that afflicts the Swamp, regardless of which party is in control. Post for me the deficit reduction plans or spending cuts Democrats have voted for in excess of Republican proposals? You cannot.
So why are you questioning Republican morals? What moral standard does your party follow which precedes your OUTRAGE over the perceived lack of morals in the GOP? What are the moral standards on the Left animating your disgust with lack of same in the GOP?
Your refusal to answer these questions with documented unassailable facts is of course welcome and most certainly expected.
You may proceed with your silence now.
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I haven't made the claim of companies paying "zero percent" in taxes and "all the tax cuts going to the top 1%". YOU made that claim and I'm asking for your proof before I blast you off this board with the FACTS!
Where is the proof backing your claim?
So you're defeating your whole argument in this thread over GOP fiscal irresponsibility if you want 50 trillion in new deficit spending. You're a very confused Mountaineer.
Where in that article did it say corporations pay "zero" taxes and the top 1% got the majority of the tax cuts? Where are your facts indicating Obama's revenues exceeded Trump's tax collections?
Did you even read it?
Sure i read it....Your record breaking revenue that Trump brings in is a laugh.......revenue goes up every year.....Biden will have record breaking revenue next year.
YOU said Obama had "record revenues" ...meaning we have not exceeded his revenues? I asked you to post those statistics, that article you linked to did NOT show Obama's record revenues. Nor did it show the top 1% of income earners getting the majority of the tax relief in 2017 under the new tax rates, nor did it show Corporations paying "zero" percent in taxes.
So were you lying, or are you ignorant of our funding mechanisms for discretionary Federal spending (non entitlement related)?
Maybe it's both, which is why you cannot back up with FACTS one thing you posted in this thread.
He absolutely did have record breaking Revenues.....he came before Trump. So at the time he did....wow. Do Trumpers need a coloring book? What I posted shows US tax revenue by fiscal year....sorry you are too dumb to figure out what years obama was in office.....Goddamn....
Go Figure: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs Under Trump Tax Cuts
Critics of the Trump tax cuts said they would blow a hole in the deficit. Yet individual income taxes climbed 6% in the just-ended fiscal 2018.
www.investors.com
Trump tax cut results: Federal revenues hit all time high's
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Critics of the Trump tax cuts said they would blow a hole in the deficit. Yet individual income taxes climbed 6% in the just-ended fiscal year 2018, as the economy grew faster and created more jobs than expected
Overall, federal revenues came in slightly higher in FY 2018 — up 0.5%.
Spending, on the other hand, was $127 billion higher in fiscal 2018. As a result, deficits for 2018 climbed $113 billion.
Let's compare these results with Obama's last full fiscal year in office, 2016.
Individual income tax revenues went up by a mere 0.3%, Treasury data show. Fiscal 2016 also saw a 13% drop in corporate income taxes. FICA tax collections climbed by less than 1%. Excise tax collections dropped almost 3%.
Overall revenues increased by 0.5% — about the same as this year. The deficit? It climbed by $148 billion.
So, in other words, the government did better on revenues and deficits in the year after Trump's tax cuts went into effect than it did in Obama's last year in office.
More Evidence That Trump’s Tax Cuts Are Working
Corporate tax revenues are up 12% this year. Tell us again how the Trump tax cuts were a giveaway to fat cat corporations.
issuesinsights.com
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In fiscal year 2019, which ended in September, corporate income taxes raised $230 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That’s $25 billion more than the year before and amounts to an increase of 12.4% – or roughly three times the growth rate of the overall economy.
Wait, what?
Every single Democrat running for president has railed against the Tax Cut and Jobs Act of 2017, calling it a massive giveaway to corporations. Among other things, that law cut the corporate income tax rate from 35% – which was higher than any other industrialized nation in the world – to a more competitive 21%.
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What the Democrats aren’t telling anyone is that, at $230 billion, corporate income tax revenues are higher than even the Trump administration had expected at the start of the year, and they are higher still than the Congressional Budget Office projected when Trump signed the tax cuts into law.
Then, the CBO said corporate revenues would come in at $409 billion in the first two years of the corporate tax cuts. Actual revenues were $435 billion – almost 7% higher.
Individual income tax revenues were up 2% in 2019, and payroll tax revenue was up by 6.2%, CBO data show.
Overall federal revenues were up 4% in 2019. And they are up compared with 2017, the year before the tax cuts went into effect
The 1% Pay 37% of Federal Income Taxes
The IRS has released new tax data that demonstrate how much we’ve been fooled by claims that the rich aren’t paying their fair share. Those claims are based on statistical errors and incomplete data. Now that we have the complete data, we gain more perspective. We’ve written a piece in the Wall...
www.aier.org
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he IRS has released new tax data that demonstrate how much we’ve been fooled by claims that the rich aren’t paying their fair share. Those claims are based on statistical errors and incomplete data. Now that we have the complete data, we gain more perspective.
new data from the Internal Revenue Service suggest it isn’t true.
The Saez-Zucman analysis raised eyebrows among other economists who study tax data, in part because they claimed it reflected the first full year under the new tax rates. At the time they published their study, the IRS had yet to release the data necessary to make the calculations they described. Preliminary numbers for 2018 income-tax returns, covering all filings made by last year’s Oct. 15 extended deadline, came out only last week. These data tell a very different story: America’s wealthiest earners still carry the lion’s share of the tax burden.
No, The Trump Tax Cuts Did Not All Go To “The Rich”
It’s inevitable in any debate over tax cuts that you’ll run into the cliche that they’re only “for the rich,” and that’s ...
bongino.com
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Claims that the Trump tax cuts go mostly to the “top 1%” are commonplace. Democratic Policy and Communications Committee co-chair David Cicilline claims that “80%” of the Trump tax cuts go to “corporations and the top 1%.” Nancy Pelosi has claimed that 83% of the Trump tax cuts went to the top 1%.
A more useful way to analyze the Trump tax cuts is so look at how they benefit each income quintile relative to how much of the tax burden they shouldered before the cuts. Before the Trump tax cuts, the bottom 80% of income earners paid roughly 33% of all federal income taxes, but received 35% of the benefits from the Trump tax cuts. The top 1% paid 27% of all federal taxes, and received only 21% of the tax cut, according to the center-left Tax Policy Center.
The Tax Policy Center found that more than 80 percent of taxpayers recieved a tax cut, with less than five percent receiving a tax increase. The five percent who saw increases were mostly wealthy people in coastal States who had their write-offs for mortgage interest and for state and local taxes capped. The average cut in taxes was $1,600
@wvjeff after learning he's been lied to by media about Trump's tax cuts
So 35% plus 21% is 56. Where did the other 44 go?
I'm still waiting for you to post for me how the top 1% got the majority of the Trump tax cuts and how Corporations paid "zero" percent in taxes. Also I'm waiting to see Obama's "record" revenues compared to Trump's?
If you can't produce any of those statistics, then just admit you lied or just go away.
In post #71 I laid out the percentages of who got the biggest benefits from the tax cuts. It went to the largest middle income groups. The lowest wage earners got no tax cuts because they don't pay any taxes. The highest 1% got the lowest levels from the tax cuts, but they pay the most in taxes too.
(that's why the economy grew btw, the tax cuts were broad based and allowed more people to keep what they were earning)
You may want to check your facts. It’s the DNC supporting globalism now. Under Trump’s administration we saw a resurgence of middle class jobs and real wage growth in the middle class sectors. Trump is taking on China which was the largest beneficiary of our destroyed middle class. On the flip side, the Dems and specifically Biden is carrying massive water for China.
Your position was true about 10 years ago, it’s not so anymore.
Another epic fail. (I suspect you aren't really reading your linked articles) You said "Coporations paid zero taxes" after Trump's tax cuts. Besides the fact they paid all taxes legally due under the new lower rates, they also used THE LAW to avoid paying taxes they did not owe under revisions in the tax code. Just as YOU deducted legal exemptions to avoid paying more taxes that you otherwise would have under the old tax laws!
But the absolute funniest thing to me about your claim is contained in your own article!
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A 2017 ITEP study examined eight years (2008 to 2015) of corporate financial filings and found that the average effective corporate tax rate was 21.4 percent, and 100 corporations managed to avoid all federal taxes in at least one year of the study.
Did you read that? The effective tax rate under the old law (during Obama's years) was essentially identical to the new law (minus the new legal exemptions) and Corporations took advantage of those legal deductions to avoid paying taxes! So you defeat your own argument with the proof you provided in your own linked article to suggest Trump gave Corporations a huge "tax giveaway" which I have also demonstrated in this thread is a flat out lie as tax revenues from Corporations increased after Trump's Corporate tax cuts.
Look, I haven't seen you posting on this forum much before today...perhaps you need to go back to the "Woodshed" or wherever you were hanging out before you decided to come on here and make a damn fool of yourself.
I'll let up on you this time, but if you persist, I'll have no future mercy on your posting ignorance.
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