WVU to Liberty Bowl
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I hope Auburn wanting to interview Neal Brown for their job doesn't impact WVU's performance against Tennessee in the Liberty Bowl. Neal's critics must be red-faced since Auburn doesn't want to talk to loser coaches.
Not exactly a sexy match-up. Glad for the extra practices and one more chance for in game experience, but not exactly exciting to watch.
I call them the Covid Bowls aka Glorified scrimmages.
Liberty Bowl WVU 5-4 Tennessee 3-7 (1-6 in final 7 games) - this would be an embarrassing loss.
Texas Bowl Arkansas 3-6 Vs TCU 6-4
Fiesta ISU 8-3 Vs Oregon 4-2
Cotton Bowl Oklahoma 8-2 Florida 8-3
Cheez It Bowl Oklahoma State 7-3 Miami Fla. 8-2
Alamo Bowl Texas 6-3 vs Colorado 4-1
Lol. Brown's willingness to talk with Auburn makes it pretty clear after just two years on the job he doesnt see himself being successful at WVU either, and every article mentions his lack of success at WVU.
Cant wait to hear the brown lovers excuses when he bolts - they still attack the previous coach for leaving nearly a decade after he arrived, but no doubt theyll come up with all manner of excuses for browns departure so soon after arriving somehow being ok with them.
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Who exactly has been attacking the old coach for leaving? Most are pretty happy that he left. The old guy was here for 8 years and accomplished nothing. Most are just glad that wvu found some other school stupid enough to take Him. Houston payed 3 times what they normally paid previous coachs to hire that bum. Man did they get hosed on that one.
The question that needs asked:
Holgersen having so much success at WVU for the big blowout over Clemson, the Big East title his first year, coming within 3 points of playing in the conference title game and having the second highest number of wins in school history at West Virginia.
Compared to Neal Brown who’s best year is one game over .500 and has a losing overall record.
Auburn is an SEC blue blood with a national title, Hypes-man trophy winner and plays powerful Alabama and LSU year after year.
Now the question: Why are they interviewing Neal Brown and not Holgersen?
Follow up: What do they know that everyone else doesn’t about the two coaches?
Holgersen having so much success at WVU for the big blowout over Clemson, the Big East title his first year, coming within 3 points of playing in the conference title game and having the second highest number of wins in school history at West Virginia.
Compared to Neal Brown who’s best year is one game over .500 and has a losing overall record.
Auburn is an SEC blue blood with a national title, Hypes-man trophy winner and plays powerful Alabama and LSU year after year.
Now the question: Why are they interviewing Neal Brown and not Holgersen?
Follow up: What do they know that everyone else doesn’t about the two coaches?
I say good for Auburn if they want to hire NB. Let him go and seek his fortune else where. WVU can get another coach for the money they pay. Hey, WVU pays good money for the few wins they get! Personally, I don't care about sports at the college or professional level any more. The big payouts to the coaches has ruined it for me. For example, the SC coach that just got canned got $13 million out the door money. What a shame! What a crime!
Pretty much everyone that posts here?
hated him for coming to WVU.
hated him for being at WVU.
hated him for leaving WVU.
Now, Brown suck @$$ and is looking to leave after two dismal seasons and you people praise him for some who knows what reason. Hypocrisy at its finest.
And if Holgorsen accomplished nothing at WVU, what exactly has Brown accomplished? About a 10th of what Holgorsen did.
Auburn is feeding off of exactly what WVU did--fits the "culture" and "back to back 10 win seasons".
Still, everyone who has written about it says no one is going to be excited about hiring someone that is 10-11 at WVU and hasn't had much success. You left that part out.
No stupid. It makes it pretty clear he is no different than any other coach that wants a chance to prove themselves on a bigger stage.
Talking a bunch of shit for a guy who wanted him fired year 1. What a dumbass.
If the man leaves he leaves.
The dude is so far down the list to be hired at Auburn That they would have to pretty much screw up everything to have to consider him.
Can't wait to laugh in your face when Brown goes 8-4 next year and wins a bowl game.
Yet they are excited about hiring a guy who was 9-36 (1-31) as a former head coach at Baylor?
You are so out of touch with reality.
Holgorsen is also #2 with most losses. He did a fair job here. He had the talent but always failed with said talent. Had he coached here the past 2 seasons he would be 10-11 or worse.
Laughing NOW at the clown here who said Brown would come in and win 8 or more games year one and railed endlessly (still doing it) against the 2nd winningest coach in WVU history.
"Anyone can step in and IMMEDIATELY do better"!!! LOL
Yet here we sit at another consecutive 5 win season, exchanging the worst rushing attack in the nation for the 8th worst number of drops in all of college football.
DH at WVU? 2nd winningest coach EVER
NB at WVU? 2nd WORST coach ever
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Meanwhile here is what one Auburn fan (who doesn't seem to be alone in his thoughts) has to say about the man who some here praise for his multiple 14 pt or fewer games, record tying consecutive losses, etc. etc.
From AU Family:
" It's probably sad or unreasonable how sad and depressed I feel right now. Same here man. Watched interviews all day today and looked at coordinators.
Neal Brown is (10-11) at WVU, decent record at Troy, not an alpha, not a recruiter, and again not a big enough name to refuse conceding control."
Yet to some here he is a GOD at all of it.
Honestly, WVU won't have to look hard to find a coach that can win just 5 games in consecutive seasons if that's what Mountaineer "fans" are wanting.
"Anyone can step in and IMMEDIATELY do better"!!! LOL
Yet here we sit at another consecutive 5 win season, exchanging the worst rushing attack in the nation for the 8th worst number of drops in all of college football.
DH at WVU? 2nd winningest coach EVER
NB at WVU? 2nd WORST coach ever
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Meanwhile here is what one Auburn fan (who doesn't seem to be alone in his thoughts) has to say about the man who some here praise for his multiple 14 pt or fewer games, record tying consecutive losses, etc. etc.
From AU Family:
" It's probably sad or unreasonable how sad and depressed I feel right now. Same here man. Watched interviews all day today and looked at coordinators.
Neal Brown is (10-11) at WVU, decent record at Troy, not an alpha, not a recruiter, and again not a big enough name to refuse conceding control."
Yet to some here he is a GOD at all of it.
Honestly, WVU won't have to look hard to find a coach that can win just 5 games in consecutive seasons if that's what Mountaineer "fans" are wanting.
DH 2nd with most losses ever. Bucky clueless as to what it is to be a coach. Who said NB could step in and win 8 right away? That sounds like something you would say. Troll bitch. NB is not the second worst ever ass clown. It's apparent now that you were Born in 2003. Only thing that explains your ignorance and not knowing anything before Holgorsen.
Neal Brown just Inked one of the best recruiting years ever at WVU. And it's still on going.
Bucky why are you not begging for Coke Holgs to return. You should be on the phone and face first in his lap already.
No coach is ever a God. But assholes like you are a dime a dozen on this board. Which is probably why you have over 50 profiles.
Neal Brown just Inked one of the best recruiting years ever at WVU. And it's still on going.
Bucky why are you not begging for Coke Holgs to return. You should be on the phone and face first in his lap already.
No coach is ever a God. But assholes like you are a dime a dozen on this board. Which is probably why you have over 50 profiles.
Got the notification....wonder what happens now. Put Army in there.
So Bucket, why isn’t Holgersen getting interviewed, since he is so superior to Brown again?
Probably because Auburn also wants a coach that "fits the culture" first and foremost.
Notice, there are HUNDREDS of coaches that Auburn isn't interviewing. Why aren't they interviewing the coaches from Texas Tech, Kansas State, Baylor, ISU, Texas, OU, etc. etc.? Why are YOU singling out Holgorsen? Literally HUNDREDS of coaches aren't being sought for an interview.
Your downplaying of WVU's 2nd winningest coach and overhype of the current 5 winner is getting silly at this point. Some fools are still whining about Holgorsen leaving on his own. SILENCE that Brown is considering the same TWO years into a much worse campaign than DH and co. ever delivered for WVU.
PITIFUL.
Hopefully "fitting the culture" won't be the first factor in hiring the next coach.
Army with a 9-2 record will face 5-4 WVU in the Liberty Bowl. Much better competition. Ridiculous that 3-7 Tennessee was invited to begin with. COVID-19 knocked Vols out of the bowl game. WVU must better off playing Army.
Winning all those games and being a far superior coach than Brown, like you have been saying and saying and saying for months on end and all you can come up with is “fitting the culture “?
If Brown gets offered what Holgorsen got offered by any other school, then Brown should go as well. Holgorsen definitively proved he is not worth a 5 yr, 20 million guaranteed contract. Brown has not shown enough that he is worth it either. Difference is one had 8 years and his ceiling is clearly not going to make WVU a top half program in the Big XII while the other has only had 2 years to show if he is up to the task or not.
the reporting out of Auburn is as dysfunctional as their program. They have thrown so much crap on the wall it’s embarrassing. From UAB to Clemson and Alabama assistants (who all now are no longer candidates and did not interview as expected, when the originally expected to be interviewed) eyes now have shifted to Louisiana State.
Typical Auburn trying to promote the program as being a destination school. Probably for non power five coaches, but that place will regret firing Gus and may go back being a dumpster fire soon.
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Rajun Cajun head coach not interested. Dumpster fire has begun. Fired your coach for 21 million without a plan.
One WON at WVU--second most ever in the history of the program--exactly WHY he had 8 years before he decided to move on.
His character was questioned daily, when and how he left no exception.
The other is a LOSER. Under him WVU has a LOSING record. He isn't being pushed away like the previous coach, he is considering walking away on his own just the same--BUT, after only TWO seasons and leaving WVU in the dregs as opposed to 4 pts from a BIG 12 championship game berth.
Don't pretend they are anywhere near the same, Holgorsen provided positive results far beyond anything Brown has approached. Yet he was bashed mercilously for the same.
I don't need to "come up" with anything, while you had to come up with something, anything, to try to deflect from Brown's total failure as WVUs football coach.
Like I said, Auburn didn't ask hundreds of coaches for an interview. And yes, if you've ever been to Auburn, you'd realize (not unlike Morgantown) "cultural fit is very important there.
Holgorsen as has been stated REPEATEDLY also faced the most difficult schedules EVER played at WVU and the most and highest ranked teams of ANY coach ever at the school.
He also had to move WVU from the depleted Big East into one of the best P5 conferences half way across the country against some of the best historical powers in the country.
And yet, he won MORE than Neal Brown. Every year but ONE.
7 wins per year every year but one, 10 wins twice and 8 wins several times.
Yet the fools continue to ignore ALL of that as though it didn't happen.?!?
If Brown continues at his pace WVU will have more losses than ever in the history of the program under a HC, in fact last year he nearly broke the CONSECUTIVE LOSS RECORD in the HISTORY of WVU football. Based on his recruiting classes, there doesn't look to be some huge leap in success on the horizon.
He also had to move WVU from the depleted Big East into one of the best P5 conferences half way across the country against some of the best historical powers in the country.
And yet, he won MORE than Neal Brown. Every year but ONE.
7 wins per year every year but one, 10 wins twice and 8 wins several times.
Yet the fools continue to ignore ALL of that as though it didn't happen.?!?
If Brown continues at his pace WVU will have more losses than ever in the history of the program under a HC, in fact last year he nearly broke the CONSECUTIVE LOSS RECORD in the HISTORY of WVU football. Based on his recruiting classes, there doesn't look to be some huge leap in success on the horizon.
He had nothing to do with WVU move to Big 12.
He failed big time when playing those ranked teams. Perhaps if he had beat them he might still be here.
Previous guy was here 8 years Neal Brown 2 and this year not even a full season.
Brown has had 2 of the best recruiting classes in the history of WVU. He also improved Holgorsen final recruiting class up from 61 to 48. We will know if he can coach and what it looks like in 2 years with his own players.
Bucky is as blind as a rat in a trap.
Serious Question BuckSuck.
Why are you so worried about a former coach and what he did or didn't do?
It's like you have this hardon for the guy. Perhaps you stalk him or something. It's getting really old of your twisted half stat numbers of what Holgs did or didn't do.
The coke head was average. Apparently well below average at Houston.
He failed big time when playing those ranked teams. Perhaps if he had beat them he might still be here.
Previous guy was here 8 years Neal Brown 2 and this year not even a full season.
Brown has had 2 of the best recruiting classes in the history of WVU. He also improved Holgorsen final recruiting class up from 61 to 48. We will know if he can coach and what it looks like in 2 years with his own players.
Bucky is as blind as a rat in a trap.
Serious Question BuckSuck.
Why are you so worried about a former coach and what he did or didn't do?
It's like you have this hardon for the guy. Perhaps you stalk him or something. It's getting really old of your twisted half stat numbers of what Holgs did or didn't do.
The coke head was average. Apparently well below average at Houston.
He never had talent. WVU never has real talent. We are always middle of the pack. He had good players in key positions but never the best in the conference.
If you want to win conference titles you need top level talent every season, not just once in 3-4 years.
Have posted all that, with not only Auburn (I guess due to Holgersen being uncultured) why isn’t he being interviewed for ANY other coaching vacancies? That is, since he is such a great coach and all.
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