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When are we going to say ENOUGH?

How would you answer one of them if they asked you if it's OK to accept a gay person's sexual proposition to them?

It's their "choice" or they're just born that way?

And schools should not suggest, teach, coerce children on gender identity. It's not the government's place. It doesn't belong in school.

2×2 doesn't equal gay, transgender, Democrat or Republican.

Schools aren't allowed to teach religion, so how is it any different than teaching anti-religion?

Big government and leftists want their cake and eat it too.

They're even pushing to teach anti-America.

ENOUGH!
 
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Schools aren't allowed to teach religion, so how is it any different than teaching anti-religion?
Exactly! If we can teach being gay is OK, can we also teach it's a Sin before our Creator?

How "tolerant" or open minded is the Left on that hmmmm????? 😏
 
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How would you answer one of them if they asked you if it's OK to accept a gay person's sexual proposition to them?

It's their "choice" or they're just born that way?
first, I’d be extremely proud that I’d raised my kids to trust me that much to ask. Second, I’d tell them to wait until they’re in love with the person. At the end of the day, them being happy means far more to me than their sexuality.

I personally think gays are born that way. But maybe they aren’t and it’s a choice. Doesn’t matter to me. Some people like fat chicks, some like legs and ass, some like the tits. Doesn’t affect me.

I’d much rather they be gay and with someone who treats them the way they deserve as opposed to some scumbag.
 
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first, I’d be extremely proud that I’d raised my kids to trust me that much to ask. Second, I’d tell them to wait until they’re in love with the person. At the end of the day, them being happy means far more to me than their sexuality.

I personally think gays are born that way. But maybe they aren’t and it’s a choice. Doesn’t matter to me. Some people like fat chicks, some like legs and ass, some like the tits. Doesn’t affect me.

I’d much rather they be gay and with someone who treats them the way they deserve as opposed to some scumbag.

Please explain what our schools have to do with that.

Schools can't teach religion, so how is it right to teach against religion?

Again...This $h!t doesn't belong in schools.
 
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first, I’d be extremely proud that I’d raised my kids to trust me that much to ask. Second, I’d tell them to wait until they’re in love with the person. At the end of the day, them being happy means far more to me than their sexuality.

I personally think gays are born that way. But maybe they aren’t and it’s a choice. Doesn’t matter to me. Some people like fat chicks, some like legs and ass, some like the tits. Doesn’t affect me.

I’d much rather they be gay and with someone who treats them the way they deserve as opposed to some scumbag.
You're talking about consenting adults...I agree with you they have a choice. But when it comes to kids, I'm asking as a Parent where would you draw the line on a gay person propositioning them?

For intance if it were a grown man hitting on one of my daughter's I'd probably kick his ass. If it was a guy asking one of my Sons for sex I'd call the police or charge him with solicitation of a minor, then I'd kick his ass too! 😡
 
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Please explain what our schools have to do with that.

Schools can't teach religion, so how is it right to teach against religion?

Again...This $h!t doesn't belong in schools.
My kids go to Catholic school. I don’t have to worry about that shit.
 
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Did you ask your daughter if she saw any women at that bar swapping spit with other women in front of all the other kids? Is that OK? Some parents apparently would have no problem with their kids being exposed to that type of filth right? Why should we care? It's only female culliningus in front of innocent but sexually naive kids right? 😡
You think kids don’t see it at the malls?
 
You're talking about consenting adults...I agree with you they have a choice. But when it comes to kids, I'm asking as a Parent where would you draw the line on a gay person propositioning them?

For intance if it were a grown man hitting on one of my daughter's I'd probably kick his ass. If was a guy asking one of my Sons for sex I'd call the police or charge him with solicitation of a minor.
Well, that’s a pedophile, and I’d probably kill that person. That’s a different scenario.

If it was some other high school kid, or some other college kid? Whatevs. I’ve been hit on by gay dudes. One has told my wife how he’d like to show her to chug a hog and asked her if she’d care or would want to watch. A) we’re not swingers. B) I’m not gay or even bi. C) How many chicks have you hit on that have turned you down?
 
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Well, that’s a pedophile, and I’d probably kill that person. That’s a different scenario.

If it was some other high school kid, or some other college kid? Whatevs. I’ve been hit on by gay dudes. One has told my wife how he’d like to show her to chug a hog and asked her if she’d care or would want to watch. A) we’re not swingers. B) I’m not gay or even bi. C) How many chicks have you hit on that have turned you down?
Before I got married I was not celebate. However I also was not gay and I certainly would never proposition a kid!

Little kids have no business being exposed to gay men or Women. What the Hell for? Let em keep their sexual innocence and just be happy little care free kids! Good Lord!
 
Well, that’s a pedophile, and I’d probably kill that person. That’s a different scenario.

If it was some other high school kid, or some other college kid? Whatevs. I’ve been hit on by gay dudes. One has told my wife how he’d like to show her to chug a hog and asked her if she’d care or would want to watch. A) we’re not swingers. B) I’m not gay or even bi. C) How many chicks have you hit on that have turned you down?

But big government teaches it while at the same time says we can't teach against it. Point being, government shouldn't be teaching one way or the other, unless both sides are treated equal. God is banned. So teaching against God should also be banned, no?
 
Before I got married I was not celebate. However I also was not gay and I certainly would never proposition a kid!

Little kids have no business being exposed to gay men or Women. What the Hell for? Let em keep their sexual innocence and just be happy little care free kids! Good Lord!
So I should keep the from being around family and friends? That’s just not how I raise my kids.
 
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But big government teaches it while at the same time says we can't teach against it. Point being, government shouldn't be teaching one way or the other, unless both sides are treated equal. God is banned. So teaching against God should also be banned, no?
I’m not a Christian, this is a fight I don’t engage in. This shit is so far down my gives-a-fvck-o-meter on issues of import, it doesn’t even register. These are the trap issues that cause Republicans to lose elections. It’s the economy, stupid. Vote the local elections and you don’t have to worry about it.
 
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Yes. Absolutely if they are preying on your family with their sexual perversions.
What world do you live in? Jeez man. A pedophile is a pedophile. It’s wrong. You frame it like all gays are like the guys from Shawshank. Preying on kids? They’re far more likely to be preyed on by a pedo of the opposite sex.
 
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What world do you live in? Jeez man. A pedophile is a pedophile. It’s wrong. You frame it like all gays are like the guys from Shawshank. Preying on kids? They’re far more likely to be preyed on by a pedo of the opposite sex.

The only reason gays introduce their perversions to little kids is to exploit their sexual innocence. Hetero sexual or homo sexual, I want them ALL to leave little kids alone. Don't you?
 
What world do you live in?

The one where secular humanists live who claim there is no God and no consequences to immoral behavior or violations of his exact warnings against Sin. You can pretend those consequences don't matter, or morality is what you say it is...but then you end up with the OP of this thread and misguided reasoning trying to accept or explain it.

Not the world I live in. I obey Almighty God's Law, not humanists, secularists, or Atheists. God's Law is above all of theirs, and there is no "excuse making" for immorality or its consequences.
 
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I think it’s about them trying to push a sick agenda. Whatever the school board and principal signed off on. We know today’s public schools are letting radical ideology suffocate the youth.
 
Would atheist parents be ok with their school field trip going to a Baptist church and sitting in the pew for a two hour sermon? I’d think most would throw a sit-in until things were changed.

I don’t care about the gays personally. A sin is a sin and all people will answer to All-mighty God when they die.
 
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Well, that’s a pedophile, and I’d probably kill that person. That’s a different scenario.

If it was some other high school kid, or some other college kid? Whatevs. I’ve been hit on by gay dudes. One has told my wife how he’d like to show her to chug a hog and asked her if she’d care or would want to watch. A) we’re not swingers. B) I’m not gay or even bi. C) How many chicks have you hit on that have turned you down?
Alright I'm pretty much done with any rational discussion with you. You having no problem with someone talking to your wife like that, screams who you are.
 
Alright I'm pretty much done with any rational discussion with you. You having no problem with someone talking to your wife like that, screams who you are.

Trying to justify no moral standard. Anything goes at that point. BTW, I never got an answer where that moral line with kids is drawn. I got another definition of morality defined by that poster. Isn't that exactly what the Government schools are doing? Defining their own versions of morality and as a result defining deviancy down?
You think kids don’t see it at the malls?

They see murder, stealing, drug abusers too. Do I tell them it's OK, try it sometime?
 
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So I should keep the from being around family and friends? That’s just not how I raise my kids.
How would your kids know your Family or friends are "gay" unless or until one of them tells the kids that they are, or you explain to your kids what that means? My point is, why discuss those issues at all with little kids who haven't even identified their own sexuality yet?

Gay people who tell little kids they're "gay" have no other purpose except to corrupt their little innocent minds with deviancy. Little kids have no idea what that means (being gay) and they really don't need to know that at their tender young ages. (same thing with that disgusting field trip)

What other purpose is served telling little kids gay folks are gay? The next logical question a curious kid would ask is "what does that mean?" Then you have to explain it to them. Why do they need to be taught such sexual perversions?

Let 'em find out about sex the way it's intended (between a Male and a Female) when they're mature enough to understand it. Don't corrupt them with what those freakazoids practice! If kids grow up and choose that particular sexual preference for themselves....let 'em. But stop trying to influence them towards sexual deviancy before they even have a chance to grow up and learn sexual normalcy first. No one is "born gay"... :mad:

Good Lord!
 
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No, but I teach them that being gay is fine. We have family members who are and close friends of the family. No one really celebrates it around the kids. It’s just who they are. No one makes a big deal about it, because it’s not.
How do they know the folks you speak of here are "gay"? You tell them? How? Why? How old were/are your kids before you let them know their Family members or your friends were gay? Do you allow those folks to discuss their sexuality or their activities with your kids? If not, why not? If so, why is that something your kids need to know? Finally, if your family or friends aren't practicing what makes them gay around your kids or talking about it, why is it even a subject of discussion? How do they discuss "being gay" unless they discuss what they do to actually be "gay"?

You don't have to answer me, but I find it hard to believe you think all of that is OK? You just don't seem that cavalier to me. You said you put your kids into a Catholic school...there has to be a reason.(s) I'd imagine being around gay folks or having your kids casually exposed to it as normalcy is NOT one of them.

Only you know what your true reasons were.
 
Alright I'm pretty much done with any rational discussion with you. You having no problem with someone talking to your wife like that, screams who you are.
Ok. I honestly don’t see the issue, he’s one of our friends.
Gay people who tell little kids they're "gay" have no other purpose except to corrupt their little innocent minds with deviancy. Little kids have no idea what that means (being gay) and they really don't need to know that at their tender young ages. (same thing with that disgusting field trip)

What other purpose is served telling little kids gay folks are gay? The next logical question a curious kid would ask is "what does that mean?" Then you have to explain it to them. Why do they need to be taught such sexual perversions?
Gay culture has been incorporated into every element of daily lives. On any kids show these days (pre-teen) you’re going to see one of the characters is gay. In the case you were asking, how would they know? The first time mine asked was after they saw their aunt kiss her wife at Christmas. It was a pretty easy discussion.

I get it, you’re not comfortable with gays, their lifestyle, or any aspect of it. That’s fine. I’m not trying to convince you you’re wrong. You’re entitled to your opinions and beliefs. I just simply disagree with you. And that’s ok.
 
Ok. I honestly don’t see the issue, he’s one of our friends.

Gay culture has been incorporated into every element of daily lives. On any kids show these days (pre-teen) you’re going to see one of the characters is gay. In the case you were asking, how would they know? The first time mine asked was after they saw their aunt kiss her wife at Christmas. It was a pretty easy discussion.

I get it, you’re not comfortable with gays, their lifestyle, or any aspect of it. That’s fine. I’m not trying to convince you you’re wrong. You’re entitled to your opinions and beliefs. I just simply disagree with you. And that’s ok.
Yes we disagree. As always with you it's done respectfully and I can't be upset with that. The discussions of human sexuality are complicated or easy depending on your reference point. You and I have different reference points about homosexuality, that doesn't make one wrong or the other incorrect but that too also depends on the reference point one decides to utilize.

Appreciate your thoughts.
 
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Would atheist parents be ok with their school field trip going to a Baptist church and sitting in the pew for a two hour sermon? I’d think most would throw a sit-in until things were changed.

I don’t care about the gays personally. A sin is a sin and all people will answer to All-mighty God when they die.

I think without question one has to first either dismiss or reject the idea of a Holy & Supreme Creator God who forbids homosexuality and calls it Sin in order to justify their acceptance of that behavior. It's literally impossible to believe in Almighty God's supreme Law and follow his Holy Commandments yet overlook Homosexuality as Sin.

So those who'd prefer that lifestyle MUST reject Almighty God's warnings and restrictions against it in order to fulfill their lustful desires. If you believe in, are saved by and Love the Lord, you simply cannot be that brazen making a conscious choice to Sin against him like that and call yourself "saved"? No way!

Contrary to what they argue, gay people are not "born" gay. It becomes a conscious choice for them later in their lives either vountarily or sometimes they are either emotionally or sexually abused and turn to it to cover some past pain or embarrassment. Either way it becomes a conscious choice, often times with full knowledge of Almighty God's warnings against it. That's why I said one has to first reject God's existence or his admonishments against that before they decide to do it.

Make no mistake. Almighty God would not call something Sin a Sinner has no control over. Like my race for instance. I had no control over the color of my skin, therefore me being Black is not a Sin. (unless I don't vote Democrat) I most certainly do however have 100% control over who I choose to have Sex with. Because that IS my choice, Almighty God holds me and anyone else accountable for the consequences of choosing that particular Sin. Sin is ALWAYS a choice (unless it's our original Sin which is a state of existence not a voluntary action)
 
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Infiltrated? Yes. Absolutely. In the Federal bureaucracy, entertainment, academia, education, and even some large corporations. However they have not convinced enough Americans to buy what they're selling. Americans don't like Socialism, especially when it's forced on them. Leftists still have to lie, and cheat, and pretend they're something they're not in order to win votes. Once they're smoked out, or their deceit is exposed....most Americans reject them.

This country is center-right. Not center-Left. Too many Americans are stupid or have been duped to believe the Socialist lies....but not enough for them to completely take over. Not yet anyway.
 
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Government has manipulated everyone to believe it’s their role and duty to decide social issues and what’s best for us. Everything you see today with our government is NOT how the framers envisioned. The government role was limited to protecting us from foreign and domestic terrorists, and to protect our rights. It’s questionable if they’re doing any of that.
 
Government has manipulated everyone to believe it’s their role and duty to decide social issues and what’s best for us. Everything you see today with our government is NOT how the framers envisioned. The government role was limited to protecting us from foreign and domestic terrorists, and to protect our rights. It’s questionable if they’re doing any of that.

I attribute much of voter's ignorance/apathy about how big Government contols us to the media. Trump called it spot on when he said they were enemies of the people. To the extent they propagandize big Government and its lies, they truly are enemies of Freedom and Liberty.
 
I attribute much of voter's ignorance/apathy about how big Government contols us to the media. Trump called it spot on when he said they were enemies of the people. To the extent they propagandize big Government and its lies, they truly are enemies of Freedom and Liberty.
They definitely are the enemy. They are weaponized by the DNC and it’s donors. They’re certainly not a free press. To which case, I’ll be the first to acknowledge, they probably never were. Many newspapers boldly claim to be democratic and have been since the civil war and earlier.
 
But big government teaches it while at the same time says we can't teach against it. Point being, government shouldn't be teaching one way or the other, unless both sides are treated equal. God is banned. So teaching against God should also be banned, no?
And THAT is exactly my argument as to why it was wrong to fire Vic Koenning who was trying to guide the Charleston kid to believe in the lord.
 
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How would your kids know your Family or friends are "gay" unless or until one of them tells the kids that they are, or you explain to your kids what that means? My point is, why discuss those issues at all with little kids who haven't even identified their own sexuality yet?

Gay people who tell little kids they're "gay" have no other purpose except to corrupt their little innocent minds with deviancy. Little kids have no idea what that means (being gay) and they really don't need to know that at their tender young ages. (same thing with that disgusting field trip)

What other purpose is served telling little kids gay folks are gay? The next logical question a curious kid would ask is "what does that mean?" Then you have to explain it to them. Why do they need to be taught such sexual perversions?

Let 'em find out about sex the way it's intended (between a Male and a Female) when they're mature enough to understand it. Don't corrupt them with what those freakazoids practice! If kids grow up and choose that particular sexual preference for themselves....let 'em. But stop trying to influence them towards sexual deviancy before they even have a chance to grow up and learn sexual normalcy first. No one is "born gay"... :mad:

Good Lord!
When my son was 6 he asked if a boy can marry a boy because some tv show had a gay couple on it. I said people can marry anyone they’re in love with and I married their mom because I loved her. Then my daughter, who was 4, said she wanted to marry her mom too because she loved her. I explained you can’t marry somebody you’re related to and they both walked away satisfied with my answers.

Now, I wouldn’t take my kids in a gay bar but I have a gay friend and have another friend whose uncle is gay and is at all the birthday parties I go to for that family and my kids don’t act weird because I explained it to them that it happens sometimes. I highly doubt it’ll make my son want to put a pecker in his mouth because he was in the vicinity of gayness.
 
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When my son was 6 he asked if a boy can marry a boy because some tv show had a gay couple on it. I said people can marry anyone they’re in love with and I married their mom because I loved her. Then my daughter, who was 4, said she wanted to marry her mom too because she loved her. I explained you can’t marry somebody you’re related to and they both walked away satisfied with my answers.

Now, I wouldn’t take my kids in a gay bar but I have a gay friend and have another friend whose uncle is gay and is at all the birthday parties I go to for that family and my kids don’t act weird because I explained it to them that it happens sometimes. I highly doubt it’ll make my son want to put a pecker in his mouth because he was in the vicinity of gayness.
Your story is fine answering the question naturally curious kids would want to know after watching a T-V show suggesting two men are "gay". It's actually sweet both the way they asked and the way you explained it. The OP though wasn't about any innocence or sweetness. That's straight up perversion, and in fact none of the school's "educational business"! I STILL say little kids don't need to know the particulars of what it is gay people actually "do" that makes them gay. That's disgusting and has no place in the mind of a sexually innocent child.

Congratulations to you for the way you handled that. You even made me laugh at the end. 🤣
 
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