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WVSPORTS.COM West Virginia head coach Neal Brown press conference summary

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--West Virginia head coach Neal Brown said they didn't get it done and made too many mistakes. In a game that had such few possessions you can't do things to beat yourself like negative plays on offense. They played poor complimentary football. They had a chip shot field goal that they missed and the defense needs to put out the fire and they had a miscommunication and it was 7-7. The Mountaineers punted the ball inside the 10 and they went on a 17-play 91-yard drive to score a touchdown. The offense needed to be able to answer, but they went out and had to kick a field goal and made it 14-10. Defense gets two punts at the start of the second half and offensively they couldn't capitalize on it. The Mountaineers had chances at 14-10 and couldn't do it.

--Special teams the issues they had they struggled at kicker, kickoff was short. They had a big kickoff return, Ollie Straw had a great day. And the coverage units were very good. Defensively, the biggest thing they've got to work on is getting off the field because they were 11-14 on end of possession downs. They scored touchdowns in the red zone. One half of the defense was playing one call and the other one was another on the explosive play. They held them to 2.9 per rush and gave them opportunities to stay in the game. West Virginia on offense struggled on the fringe and in the red zone. There were eight possessions in the game and of those possessions, two they scored touchdowns, the missed field goal was inside the red zone and the made one was in the fringe and the interception was in the fringe. They had too many negative plays due to the snaps. They continued to execute the two-minute offense well and on third downs. That was a game they were right there and simply didn't make enough plays to win.

--Kansas State is similar in their approach to Iowa State. They are used to winning and on special teams they are really sound. Their specialists are good. They want to run the football, they are multiple and they shift and use a lot of motions. Giddens their running back is playing very well. Their offensive line has some good players. Kansas State is a three down defense and are more multiple. They are really talented at corner and play a lot of man coverage.

--Brown said they broke some tackles on that first drive. And they moved their front around a little bit. They usually play a five, four high and some big guys up front but they had some pressure answers. They played more of a traditional defense as the middle safety played more of a quarters look.

--Garrett Greene didn't play well enough to win Saturday, but he is the starter. He hasn't done anything to lose that job but has to make better decisions. There are scenarios that Nicco Marchiol could play in packages and they have a bright future with him but he is the backup.

--Brown lives in a bubble during the season and he is in this building from Sunday all the way to his radio show Thursday. What is hard about this from a coaching perspective is the family piece to it because they're open to the scrutiny. They didn't sign up for that. The intent is not to screw up from a coaching and player perspective.

--It's next week. It's a new week Sunday is the off-day and treatment and recovery they meet at 10 a.m. At 9:50 they flip it over and move onto the next week. You have to make the corrections and be accountable and hold yourself to a standard.

--Brown said they have to get the high snaps fixed. Yates had a hand injury, they had 11 in the game and five were critical. Livingston played the last two drives and did pretty well. It had to do with gripping the ball. There were plays that were there including five of those that were directly because of the snap. Yates hand is better.

--Jaden Bray is going to miss this week, he got hurt at the end of the Oklahoma State game with a lower leg injury. They'll evaluate it after that.

--Brown said you have to create your own momentum. They had an option route that was clearly pass interfered and it was picked. They probably did hold the guy in the end zone but that wasn't how the game was called. Fate worked against them there but they had opportunities where they should have made the field goal, converted the third and three. They should have gotten off the field on two third and longs.

--That was a uniquely small number of possessions but West Virginia can't be a group that beats themselves. For West Virginia to get to that level they can't make those type of mistakes. They're better but to knock out a top ten team you can't do those type of things.

--There's are some instances where teams are better. That wasn't necessarily the case here, or it wasn't the case at Pitt. They just didn't make plays at winning time or calls at winning time.

--Burks is questionable. He has only played one full game he's had some lingering injuries. T.J. Jackson did not practice today but it's going to be close. He has a weird lower leg injury and they will see how he feels.

--Coverage wise Kansas State is a lot different than Iowa State on defense but they might take some things from what West Virginia did against the three man front.

--Brown understands that the fan base wants to win but asks if they had a good time at the game? If they're in the deal for enjoyment Brown urges fans to come back. They need the fans to come back and provide a home field advantage. They've played a tough schedule, everybody that's beat them hasn't lost. He understands the frustration but when you watch the product, other than the outcome, there is clear strain and physicality. It was an entertaining football game, they didn't win.

--TJ Crandall was injured last week and the two corners played pretty well so they didn't sub a lot.

--Some of the issues in the run game against Iowa State were poor footwork and they didn't ID things the way they should have. The only play that was frustrating to him was the blown coverage but they had to earn everything they did.

--Schematically they do a good job with their twists getting vertical especially in the B-Gap. They play two big noses with vertical push and their two ends are really active. They get strain sacks and strain pressures. They get it just because they outwork those guys.

--Brown said they have four down and three down plans. They do a late spring breakdown of opponents and he spends some time in May taking notes on plans they like. They work those in summer OTAs and fall camp. They pick and opponent and try to hit them three times and Sunday's he goes back to look at those summer notes to see what matches. There's always different ways to change the picture for the defense but for the most part the schemes are the schemes.
 
When you are a coach on the hot seat after a loss with another big game coming up, you don't ask the fans to come back because it is entertaining. You say the team needs the fans as they feed off the positive energy and as the coach, I will do my best to get them prepared. Fans are only entertained with a win.
 
if a RB fumbles twice in a game that player is usually sat down at least for that game....for some reason many coaches treat the QB position like it is above the rest of the team...try a relief pitcher if the starter isn't getting it done.
 
Interceptions are not equal to fumbles. With that being said, the two INT on Saturday were not good passes. But I'm not going to beat up Brown for not replacing Greene. I understand the reasoning of putting Nicco in but in my opinion, Greene is a better QB and one of his strengths is his confidence. We have more games to win this year and Brown simply doesn't have the luxury of deflating Greene's confidence.

The two INT weren't why we lost the game. We couldn't stop their offense enough.
 
I know it isn't equal, Baker Mayfield threw 3 INT's yesterday in the NFL. They still won. Defense shut down NO offense after the second quarter and Mayfield continued slicing up NO after throwing 3 picks.
 
When you are a coach on the hot seat after a loss with another big game coming up, you don't ask the fans to come back because it is entertaining. You say the team needs the fans as they feed off the positive energy and as the coach, I will do my best to get them prepared. Fans are only entertained with a win.
That's what you don't get dude lol. If you are Neil brown, that IS what you ask. For 6 years he has said this kind of stuff and worse, because he is an absolute putz and the worst coach in Mountaineer history and his little pathetic statement about having fun and being entertained and the atmosphere and tailgating should be all anybody with even half of a brain has to know to realize that this dude is 100% in over his head and he does not give a shit about winning. He's a woke-ass Kamala Harris butt licking coach and he needs ran off campus 5 minutes ago. I can't believe you defend this loser LOL.
 
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Interceptions are not equal to fumbles. With that being said, the two INT on Saturday were not good passes. But I'm not going to beat up Brown for not replacing Greene. I understand the reasoning of putting Nicco in but in my opinion, Greene is a better QB and one of his strengths is his confidence. We have more games to win this year and Brown simply doesn't have the luxury of deflating Greene's confidence.

The two INT weren't why we lost the game. We couldn't stop their offense enough.
well both ints led to TD's.. if you're having trouble stopping the other team turnovers will kill you...isn't Nicco undefeated as a starter?...BTW one of WVU's biggest sports donors managed to get himself arrested.
 
well both ints led to TD's.. if you're having trouble stopping the other team turnovers will kill you...isn't Nicco undefeated as a starter?...BTW one of WVU's biggest sports donors managed to get himself arrested.
Your points are valid as I believe mine are as well.

I know nothing about the donor getting arrested story.
 
When you are a coach on the hot seat after a loss with another big game coming up, you don't ask the fans to come back because it is entertaining. You say the team needs the fans as they feed off the positive energy and as the coach, I will do my best to get them prepared. Fans are only entertained with a win.

And yet you wonder why many fans say he isn't the guy until he puts us in the conference championship game. The evidence he is a middling at best coach is bountiful and he has had over 5 years to show potential that he can deliver a season as good as Nehlen or RR did. How long does he need to have mostly unimpressive wins with an occasional marginal upset and/or ugly loss before it is time to consider another coach? Admin extended him twice based upon those results.
 
And yet you wonder why many fans say he isn't the guy until he puts us in the conference championship game. The evidence he is a middling at best coach is bountiful and he has had over 5 years to show potential that he can deliver a season as good as Nehlen or RR did. How long does he need to have mostly unimpressive wins with an occasional marginal upset and/or ugly loss before it is time to consider another coach? Admin extended him twice based upon those results.
I don't wonder about reality at all. As another poster just said perfectly, some of us prefer not to be an ass on a public board about our team and alma mater.
 
I don't wonder about reality at all. As another poster just said perfectly, some of us prefer not to be an ass on a public board about our team and alma mater.

What does it mean that you don't wonder about reality? I don't wonder that fire burns or that water is wet. I do wonder about whether Neal Brown is a good coach and whether WVU can expect better. I then use the reality that he has done less than what most other coaches have done in the past at WVU and what many other coaches are currently doing at programs similar to WVU to come to a conclusion. That conclusion is that WVU should expect something big and immediate or else it is time to stop extending the guy.
 
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SMH, you mentioned reality and responding in kind. I don't dispute your comment. Reading comprehension.
 
SMH, you mentioned reality and responding in kind. I don't dispute your comment. Reading comprehension.

Simple questions. Regardless of how much you dislike how they say it, are WVU fans way off base to expect better than this 3-3 start in a head coach's 6th season? If you think they are, why? And when should WVU consider moving on to another coach.
 
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Simple questions. Regardless of how much you dislike how they say it, are WVU fans way off base to expect better than this 3-3 start in a head coach's 6th season? If you think they are, why? And when should WVU consider moving on to another coach.
No. I also expect more. WVU, meaning the AD, President, whoever else responsible and representing the university, should not speak on the subject publicly. Decision on moving on is not an easy one for the University even though many think it is simple. Debating on a message board about the current coach is something I won't do. I will discuss what he does with those that can also present their opinions and perspectives in a proper tone and I enjoy those posts. I'm able to agree to disagree but those that can't tend to take conversations into the sewer and I won't participate with them.
 
No. I also expect more. WVU, meaning the AD, President, whoever else responsible and representing the university, should not speak on the subject publicly. Decision on moving on is not an easy one for the University even though many think it is simple. Debating on a message board about the current coach is something I won't do. I will discuss what he does with those that can also present their opinions and perspectives in a proper tone and I enjoy those posts. I'm able to agree to disagree but those that can't tend to take conversations into the sewer and I won't participate with them.

Fair enough. As a person I like Brown and Stewart far more than RR or Holgorsen. And I'd love to have a personable HC that it also effective. However, for such a high paying and high profile job, effectiveness is the primary trait.

I'm not saying WVU must make a rash decision. I'm saying WVU already had twice with Brown extensions and I don't want them to make it again just because he improves a tiny bit. We've already wasted 2 and, with how this season is shaping up, likely 3 seasons hoping he would turn a corner. Until he actually does, which means putting WVU in the conference championship game, no more extensions. And if a really good candidate comes along or buyout drops enough before he does, then he should be gone.
 
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if a RB fumbles twice in a game that player is usually sat down at least for that game....for some reason many coaches treat the QB position like it is above the rest of the team...try a relief pitcher if the starter isn't getting it done.
No doubt send a message.
 
Fair enough. As a person I like Brown and Stewart far more than RR or Holgorsen. And I'd love to have a personable HC that it also effective. However, for such a high paying and high profile job, effectiveness is the primary trait.

I'm not saying WVU must make a rash decision. I'm saying WVU already had twice with Brown extensions and I don't want them to make it again just because he improves a tiny bit. We've already wasted 2 and, with how this season is shaping up, likely 3 seasons hoping he would turn a corner. Until he actually does, which means putting WVU in the conference championship game, no more extensions. And if a really good candidate comes along or buyout drops enough before he does, then he should be gone.
In his sixth year, I don't see it as a rash decision even if they fired him in the middle of the season. He has had more time than most coaches get, and more people backing him than most coaches get. This dude has been handed every tool for success that none of our previous coaches had handed to them and he is squandering it. I jumped off his bandwagon a couple seasons ago and perhaps it would have been rash to fire him mid-season like I wanted to then, but it is definitely not now. This dude has overstayed his welcome. The comments that he just said that sparked the internet firestorm, he has said similar things for 6 years. This is exactly what I've been complaining about for 3 years. When you really listen to his words, he does not leave the impression that winning is his goal at all. And like I said in another post, that's fine if you want to cut the ticket prices back down and everything else that goes with the game day experience. We are in the top five most expensive in the entire nation right now and it is absurd. WVU fans are absolutely getting ripped off and getting the shaft because we're paying for this, and a coach that doesn't even care much about winning.
 
do you think maybe when he talked about the tailgates, it was because WVU was just named the #1 tailgating school in rhe Big 12?....do you think that's a possibility?:rolleyes:
 
do you think maybe when he talked about the tailgates, it was because WVU was just named the #1 tailgating school in rhe Big 12?....do you think that's a possibility?:rolleyes:
No I don't actually. I mean that's a valid point to consider but the truth is, there were a hundred better ways to answer that question and it never even crossed his mind because he doesn't have a real winning attitude and mentality. This is not the first time he has alluded to winning not being the real priority. Not even close actually. He definitely belongs at a small school. This is way too big of a stage for his coaching Style.
 
that was a crap question to ask anyway..why should the fans come to the game?.....he did say we need them..people love to tear down instead of build up...some gave Bill Stewart hell when he squinted...WTH..i think WVU fans are digging their own grave...and the whole thing is going to come crashing down some day
 
that was a crap question to ask anyway..why should the fans come to the game?.....he did say we need them..people love to tear down instead of build up...some gave Bill Stewart hell when he squinted...WTH..i think WVU fans are digging their own grave...and the whole thing is going to come crashing down some day
I wouldn't use the words "crashing down" but the actions of these individuals (I don't consider them fans) will be felt as I believe it was felt before Brown was hired. But it is way worse now as is the country with this type of crap. I agree that Brown isn't delivering to expectations but I think it is less than a 10% chance things will improve to these people's expectations within 5 years of a new hire, whenever that might be.

The program is in a very tough situation in so many aspects.
 
that was a crap question to ask anyway..why should the fans come to the game?.....he did say we need them..people love to tear down instead of build up...some gave Bill Stewart hell when he squinted...WTH..i think WVU fans are digging their own grave...and the whole thing is going to come crashing down some day
So do you see West Virginia as just an average team that should keep the coach even if he hovers around .500 for 6 years? Like I say if that is the mindset then they really need to lower ticket prices and not just a little bit. We have one of the most expensive game day experiences in the entire country and we have an average coach that produces an average team with an average game plan. I mean that's pretty lame really. Some would call that already Crashing Down
 
Most of you aren't going to care about this book I'm about to speak into my phone, but I have my own business and at some point it grew enough to have to hire a few people. Before that I had never even been a manager. I had never been a coach or the leader of a team or anything like that. The closest thing to leadership I ever touched was being a white water rafting guide. So I hired some people and it really didn't work out because I had no idea how to be a leader of young men. I took a very lackadaisical, sort of player led approach but more like employee-led approach. It didn't work. The quality of work dropped from good to average, I just wasn't assertive enough to run a tight ship. So I really hit the books. I started studying about leadership and management I even went to clinics. It took a little bit but I managed to improve drastically and turn it into something good for my business and self-improve in areas of weakness.

That being said, a lot of that stuff is drilled into my brain now and I look for it in others. Neil Brown does a lot of things wrong as a leader of young men. I'm telling you right now his mentality is not going to ever truly produce the results people want. He's a nice guy but you absolutely cannot be a nice guy and be a leader. You can be a good guy and be a leader but Neil Brown is a pushover to his team and they do not respect him in the way that they should. I have zero doubt about this. They like him because he is not hard on them and he pretty much lets them do what they want. But what really gets me is his comment his interviews his lack of accountability. My ears are trained to pretty much pay attention only to the stuff after the word "but". When you do that with Neil Brown it paints a pretty sad picture. This man is defeated and he's in over his head. I feel bad for him but three years ago I saw it and it's really just playing out exactly like I worried it would. These interviews and press conferences are not going to really get much better unless he digs down deep and learns how to be a better leader of men. I have seen no evidence that he is going to do that he just doubles down on stupid. So this is why I'm taking the position I have. Because I have learned to look for little cues and it was pretty easy to see that this dude is not the right man for the job. There's a reason for all of the failures. We don't even have standout players anymore because he has a socialist approach and it's ridiculous.

If you made it this far, my hat's off to you lol.
 
So if this guy is ever going to win me back, it's not going to be because he beat Kansas state. It's going to be because he got up on the mic and absolutely took 100% accountability and made absolutely zero excuses. When you say there's no excuse, and then follow that up with the word "but", followed by 20 minutes of excuses, you are absolutely in over your head. Neil Brown so get on the mic and take all the accountability as the leader of the team and stop throwing the players under the bus and everyone else under the bus including the schedule. Every excuse in the book is what he does. This man is not going to do anything here unless that changes And there is a very slim chance of that happening
 
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Interceptions are not equal to fumbles. With that being said, the two INT on Saturday were not good passes. But I'm not going to beat up Brown for not replacing Greene. I understand the reasoning of putting Nicco in but in my opinion, Greene is a better QB and one of his strengths is his confidence. We have more games to win this year and Brown simply doesn't have the luxury of deflating Greene's confidence.

The two INT weren't why we lost the game. We couldn't stop their offense enough.
The defense was basically OK, but the lackluster O absolutely sucked.
 
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