Wash.Post: College football attendance sees second-largest decline in history

[1duluth1]

2017 NCAA football had 2nd biggest drop in attendance in history.
For first time ever, attendance is down 4 years in a row.

I think there are a lot of factors; rising costs (donations), games in HD, all games on TV, kids today not as interested in sports, etc.
However, 2 or 3 years ago we were guessing about Big12 expansion. Now, I am thinking when some of these TV contracts end, the next round of contracts are smaller - and maybe - see conference realignment putting regional teams back into same conferences.

College football attendance sees second-largest decline in history
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...st-decline-in-history/?utm_term=.bc8aeb07d8bd

 

[Vernon]

2017 NCAA football had 2nd biggest drop in attendance in history.
For first time ever, attendance is down 4 years in a row.

I think there are a lot of factors; rising costs (donations), games in HD, all games on TV, kids today not as interested in sports, etc.
However, 2 or 3 years ago we were guessing about Big12 expansion. Now, I am thinking when some of these TV contracts end, the next round of contracts are smaller - and maybe - see conference realignment putting regional teams back into same conferences.

College football attendance sees second-largest decline in history
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...st-decline-in-history/?utm_term=.bc8aeb07d8bd

It's a mess right now but it's not too late to improve things with smart choices like you said with teams in conferences that make sense and not only about what people thought would translate into TV viewers.

 

[Major Applewhite]

The issue with that is long term rivalries cannot be maintained either way.

The original conferences themselves did not maintain consistent regional lines.

The SEC for example with Kentucky and Tennessee.

Truthfully what may happen is that the huge schools break away and form somewhat of a SuperConference of 4 divisions with 8 teams.

This is why many people have attempted to break a part the NCAA.

The huge schools can keep all the money for themselves especially in basketball if there is no NCAA.
Pretty much do what they did in football with all sports.

Supposedly this is why Carolina only received a slap on the wrist because they threatened to do just that last summer.

 

[Major Applewhite]

It's a mess right now but it's not too late to improve things with smart choices like you said with teams in conferences that make sense and not only about what people thought would translate into TV viewers.

The issue with that is you have conferences like the Big East that play basketball but not CFB.

You can tell the Big East they are not Division 1 anymore in basketball. The Big West in baseball as well.
With that you can go to 8 regional conferences of 10 teams

Pacific 10
Interior West
Upper Midwest
Great Lakes/Northeast
Appalachia
Southwest
Southeast
Atlantic Coast

With WVU being in the Appalachia Conference

Pacific 10
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
UCLA
USC
Stanford
Cal
San Diego State
UNLV

Interior West
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
BYU
Colorado
Nebraska
Kansas
Kansas State
Texas Tech
New Mexico

Upper Midwest
Iowa
Iowa State
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
ND
Northern Illinois

Great Lakes/Northeast
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Toledo
UCONN
Syracuse
Rutgers
Boston College
Army
Navy

Appalachia
Pittsburgh
Penn State
Kentucky
WVU
Tennessee
Va Tech
Georgia Tech
Appalachian State
Louisville
Wake Forest


Southeast
Florida
Georgia
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Miss State
Ole Miss
Vandy
Southern Miss
USF

Atlantic Coast
Maryland
Virginia
NC State
Duke
N Carolina
S Carolina
Clemson
Florida State
UCF
Miami

Southwest
Texas
Texas A&M
Baylor
TCU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St
Arkansas
Mizzou
Memphis
Tulane

You pretty much put the 8 blueblood programs in different conferences except for 2 occurrences.

Then the 2 conferences that do not have bluebloods are loaded down with top teams.
Tennessee/Penn State. The 9th and 10th most historic football program

In the Atlantic the new bloods in Clemson/Miami and Florida State.

 

[SECAggyFan]

2017 NCAA football had 2nd biggest drop in attendance in history.
For first time ever, attendance is down 4 years in a row.

I think there are a lot of factors; rising costs (donations), games in HD, all games on TV, kids today not as interested in sports, etc.
However, 2 or 3 years ago we were guessing about Big12 expansion. Now, I am thinking when some of these TV contracts end, the next round of contracts are smaller - and maybe - see conference realignment putting regional teams back into same conferences.

College football attendance sees second-largest decline in history
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...st-decline-in-history/?utm_term=.bc8aeb07d8bd

What are Regional teams?

If you go by that then the Backyard Brawl is ended.
LSU/Ole Miss Rivarly
Wisconsin/Minnesota

Here is the regional breakdown of the United States
The real issue is that some states should really be split in half as you cannot seperate regions without separating states.

When athletic conferences were first created pissing contest caused some schools to be lumped into conferences they never belonged in and conferences like the Big 8 were created because of Nebraska not being invited to the original Big Ten by Michigan and Oklahoma and Oklahoma St taking off from the SWC because they didn’t want to bow down to Texas.

 

[SECAggyFan]

You have to understand how narratives can be changed overtime

They have already started in two states. Missouri and Oklahoma.


Missouri was a Southern State that after the Civil War acted like a Northern State.
Their mascot the Tiger is in celebration of Confederate Militas.

After the war the history books claimed Missouri was a part of the Midwest.
Since joining the SEC the history books in Missouri have been changed.

Now Missouri is said to be a border state very much like Kentucky, WV and Maryland.

Oklahoma is another one. Now Oklahoma teaches that their state is an extension of Texas.
Not 1/2 Midwest and 1/2 Southern.
They claim that their state in the history books for students who are educated on state history that their state is apart of the Southwest.

This is the best map to define regions in the US
The Coke/Pop/Soda map

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

It will be down again this year.

Cost of Tickets + Cost of donations (yeah like that is optional) + cost of food/drink/parking + hassle of attending <<<<<<<<<<< HDTV experience at home in terms of weekend enjoyment

The bubble on about all sports is bursting right now. Attendance and ratings are declining in the NFL and college is not that far behind though it does have more loyalty.

People are not as loose with their $$$$$$ as they used to be!

 

[Rootmaster]

Price vs. demand problems.The arms race...way too big coaching contracts, stadiums for the elite, facilities designed for a few, etc...are sucking the money out of the current tv contracts and pricing fans out of the market. Add to that the f....ed up conference affiliations and loss of games against the "guys down the block" are huge factors also. ESPN and big sponsors (who will flee as soon as value decreases) are killing the goose, golden or not. Then there is the undercurrent in some parts of society that sports are too "rough" for young folks and the false narrative that we need to legislate civility into the games...which is horseshit. Participation trophies for all! Saw that issue first hand and personal when coaching.

Somewhere along the way the concept of students performing as athletes for their school got lost (except in Div III) in the lure by schools for big payouts. The creation of P5 as a block is another step in the wrong direction.

 

[CALonghorn83]

Price vs. demand problems.The arms race...way too big coaching contracts, stadiums for the elite, facilities designed for a few, etc...are sucking the money out of the current tv contracts and pricing fans out of the market. Add to that the f....ed up conference affiliations and loss of games against the "guys down the block" are huge factors also. ESPN and big sponsors (who will flee as soon as value decreases) are killing the goose, golden or not. Then there is the undercurrent in some parts of society that sports are too "rough" for young folks and the false narrative that we need to legislate civility into the games...which is horseshit. Participation trophies for all! Saw that issue first hand and personal when coaching.

Somewhere along the way the concept of students performing as athletes for their school got lost (except in Div III) in the lure by schools for big payouts. The creation of P5 as a block is another step in the wrong direction.

Not even close.

You need to establish a College Premier League

Criteria
1) Top 15 Football wins
2) Top 15 Basketball wins
3) Top 15 baseball wins
4) Top 20 National Championships
5) Top 20 in revenue
6) Top 20 in attendance

A school must meet at least 3 of these criterias.
After you get a number then you sort through the rest
To get to 32.
The rest will be based on academic criteria as well.

You then esthablish a 32 University Primier League

The rest of the schools can create another conference/ division with FCS schools

 

[Rootmaster]

College Premier League

This is the problem lol. Not a professional sport....

 

[CALonghorn83]

This is the problem lol. Not a professional sport....

The problem is you have schools that can not afford to compete at a higher level throwing huge sums of money at college athletics.
Rutgers for example.

Since Rutgers joined the B1G their academic reputation has taken a hit.

Certain schools are having to decide what is more important, winning in the classroom or on the field.

A college primier league will seperate the schools who have no business competing at the higher levels so therefore they can reinvest into the students.

The issue around colleges around the country is that students are boycotting sports because sports do not help them win in life.
Better research facilities and faculty helps them.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Truthfully what may happen is that the huge schools break away and form somewhat of a SuperConference of 4 divisions with 8 teams.

I agree with that post. I've been proposing it for football for a few years.

It sets up a natural 8-team national playoff of the 8 division winners. No subjective in it. Best record in each division gets in. Head-to-head settles co-division champs.

Stop pretending that Akron is equal in importance to Alabama.

I love that WVU has tripled its annual conference payday because Oliver Luck got us into the Big 12, but it's ridiculous to dump a team like Pitt that WVU played for 105 years. JoPa's proposed league would make sense even today:

WVU, Pitt, Penn State, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Maryland would have been an ideal conference.

 

[CALonghorn83]

Truthfully what may happen is that the huge schools break away and form somewhat of a SuperConference of 4 divisions with 8 teams.

I agree with that post. I've been proposing it for football, too, for a few years.

Stop pretending that Akron is equal in importance to Alabama.

I love that WVU has tripled its annual conference payday because Oliver Luck got us into the Big 12, but it's ridiculous to dump a team like Pitt that WVU played for 105 years. JoPa's proposed league would make sense even today:

WVU, Pitt, Penn State, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Maryland would have been an ideal conference.

That wasn’t his league.
He wanted Temple and Rutgers.
The Virginia schools and Maryland were never included.

Virginia is even tougher to get out of the ACC than Carolina because for the most part UVA doesn’t desire a winner.
Not saying they do not attempt to win but UVA has integrity so they will not cut corners to win at sports.
The ACC is their conference.

 

[Major Applewhite]

Rivals are overrated.

There is no team that Texas HAS to play every year.
There are teams that have to play Texas so rivalries are I guess from a UT perspective a way to get your claws into other universities.

 

[Rootmaster]

schools that can not afford to compete at a higher level

You make my point.

 

[Rootmaster]

Truthfully what may happen is that the huge schools break away and form somewhat of a SuperConference of 4 divisions with 8 teams.

That is precisely the thinking that has destroyed college football attendance. What a tool? Go to a professional game!

 

[WVpride304]

The NFL is on decline too. College football is still the most exciting sport along with college basketball. Who do you know that watches the NBA? The NBA has been dead for years. NFL on its way to same decline.

Sports as a whole is too expensive for people and all the conference realignment in college and all the $$$$$$$ driven changes is ruining sports. It’s sad. The pro sports has been going down hill the last 15 years and more but I hope college sports doesn’t fall like that. College sports is the last good thing left. Pro sports is miserable with the modern day social media athletes and their political views.....and behavior.

Bring the college teams back to their regional rivals. Fix the mess.

 

[Major Applewhite]

The NFL is on decline too. College football is still the most exciting sport along with college basketball. Who do you know that watches the NBA? The NBA has been dead for years. NFL on its way to same decline.

Sports as a whole is too expensive for people and all the conference realignment in college and all the $$$$$$$ driven changes is ruining sports. It’s sad. The pro sports has been going down hill the last 15 years and more but I hope college sports doesn’t fall like that. College sports is the last good thing left. Pro sports is miserable with the modern day social media athletes and their political views.....and behavior.

Bring the college teams back to their regional rivals. Fix the mess.

Well actually PItt is the one to blame for some of the mess but I guess Penn State had the final laugh.

If Pitt would have agreed to form a conference with Penn State things possibly could have been different.

 

[MrBurntReynolds]

WVU, Pitt, Penn State, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Maryland would have been an ideal conference.

From a WVU point of view that would be a perfect conference but reality doesn’t always side with our desires.

For WVU to be able to have the pull to bring a conference centered around their state and university the Mountaineers will have to give a solid reason why.

UVA/UNC is the oldest college football Rivarly in the South.
Why would Virgina leave UNC?

 

[WVpride304]

I read where Missouri fans miss their old rivals and that’s where these schools belong. WVU needs back East and Missouri and Texas A@M with Louisville should be Big 12. Louisville would geographically be closer to Big 12 and Nebraska and Colorado could possibly go back Big 12 as well.

The ACC is too East for Louisville. WVU needs to be ACC with Maryland going back as well. If not ACC then some kind of northeastern conference with Penn State, WVU, Pitt, Maryland, VT, UVA, Rutgers, Syracuse, Boston College, UCONN spearheading a Big East return. In return the basketball schools could be added for non football and bring back the old Big East in hoops with those 10 mentioned. Add Villanova, Georgetown, St Johns and 1 of these 3 Seton Hall, Providence or Rhode Island as the 14 hoops member for basketball. That’s 14 in basketball like it used to be. It would be a powerhouse, low travel conference for everyone. We could bus to most locations. Saving millions.

 

[WVpride304]

I know one thing, the NFL, NBA and MLB has been boring for a while. All 3 are going to fall further. It’s coming. Less people will watch and come and the $ will eventually drop. It’s coming.

The NBA needs 2 years after high school before draft eligible. Let them go to Europe if they don’t won’t to go to college for 2 years and develop as people and athletes.

 

[MrBurntReynolds]

I read where Missouri fans miss their old rivals and that’s where these schools belong. WVU needs back East and Missouri and Texas A@M with Louisville should be Big 12. Louisville would geographically be closer to Big 12 and Nebraska and Colorado could possibly go back Big 12 as well.

The ACC is too East for Louisville. WVU needs to be ACC with Maryland going back as well. If not ACC then some kind of northeastern conference with Penn State, WVU, Pitt, Maryland, VT, UVA, Rutgers, Syracuse, Boston College, UCONN spearheading a Big East return. In return the basketball schools could be added for non football and bring back the old Big East in hoops with those 10 mentioned. Add Villanova, Georgetown, St Johns and 1 of these 3 Seton Hall, Providence or Rhode Island as the 14 hoops member for basketball. That’s 14 in basketball like it used to be. It would be a powerhouse, low travel conference for everyone. We could bus to most locations. Saving millions.

WVU will never be in the ACC just as long as Virginia is a major player in the conference.

Conferences have gotten it wrong from the beginning so why would you want to correct them
now.

Let’s put South Carolina back in the ACC.
If any school is in the wrong conference it is S Carolina.
Switch them and Ga Tech.

There has always been mistakes in conferences from the beginning.
Louisville does not belong in the Big XII at the moment.
Nebraska doesn’t belong in the conference nor does Colorado.

 

[Major Applewhite]

I realize some of the nostalgia that some people have but the issue is that you can’t change the past and you can only change the future today.

Meaning that for Texas the SWC was an amazing conference. The reason why football is a big deal because the SWC starting in the 1920’s had a religious like following. Maybe because a good portion of the schools were religious institutions.

The SWC came about because Texas wanted to remove their state from the Old South defeated way of thinking. Prior to 1910 Texas and A&M were in a conference with the schools across the South but they mainly associated with the schools in the Deep South. The Mississippi Delta universities.

When oil was found in Texas the state wanted to change the image of the state. Reason why Texas set up endowments to finance their academics in both the UT and A&M system with oil money.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_University_Fund

Texas has changed and now is maybe the strongest state going forward so the SWC did its job.
Even with that you cannot bring back the SWC.
No one really wants to. What a lot of people want is to be back the original idea of the SWC. That is with LSU and Ole Miss.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

From a WVU point of view that would be a perfect conference but reality doesn’t always side with our desires.

For WVU to be able to have the pull to bring a conference centered around their state and university the Mountaineers will have to give a solid reason why.

UVA/UNC is the oldest college football Rivarly in the South.
Why would Virgina leave UNC?

WVU and Pitt played each other for 105 years. Why would they leave each other? Money. I think we should divide the country into 4 geographic areas and then pick 16 teams from each geographic area and form 4 16-team conferences and have the 8 division champs play each other every year for the football title and all 64 play in March Madness.

To avoid having schools stuck in, say, Alabama's division permanently, every 4 years switch the 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th place teams in each division. That would allow two home-and-away series against every team, then the same every 4 years. No subjectivity. Winner take all.

 

[MrBurntReynolds]

WVU and Pitt played each other for 105 years. Why would they leave each other? Money. I think we should divide the country into 4 geographic areas and then pick 16 teams from each geographic area and form 4 16-team conferences and have the 8 division champs play each other every year for the football title and all 64 play in March Madness.

To avoid having schools stuck in, say, Alabama's division permanently, every 4 years switch the 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th place teams in each division. That would allow two home-and-away series against every team, then the same every 4 years. No subjectivity. Winner take all.

Why?

Most of the schools outside of the South cannot compete.

Since 2000 a grand total of 2 schools outside of the South won 3 1/2 NC.
2014 was the only year that the NC was not decided with a School from the South as Oregon played Ohio St.

 

[WVUALLEN]

That wasn’t his league.
He wanted Temple and Rutgers.
The Virginia schools and Maryland were never included.

Virginia is even tougher to get out of the ACC than Carolina because for the most part UVA doesn’t desire a winner.
Not saying they do not attempt to win but UVA has integrity so they will not cut corners to win at sports.
The ACC is their conference.

Long time Penn State fans are probably more familiar with the story than some of the newer generation fans, but here is a quick run down of Paterno's idea at the time.

Paterno tried to get Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Temple, Maryland, Syracuse, Rutgers and Boston College to go in on the idea with him, but they ultimately left Paterno and Penn State hanging.

The Big East eventually was formed under a similar structure to Paterno's idea, and Penn State was left out of the mix. When Penn State attempted to join, the conference turned their back on the school largely due to the state of Penn State's basketball program, a sticking point that was not a hassle when Miami applied for membership a few years later.

What do you think would have happened over time if Paterno's conference idea panned out?

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Well actually PItt is the one to blame for some of the mess but I guess Penn State had the final laugh.

If Pitt would have agreed to form a conference with Penn State things possibly could have been different.

Penn State(really Joe “knew” Paterno) wanted to keep football revenue but wanted to locked East up. And of course he wanted PSU in the Big East. His Conference idea was a great one. Problem is he was going down the Texas “ shitttty” Conference partner routine. That was not gonna fly. Hello Big Ten.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

I read where Missouri fans miss their old rivals and that’s where these schools belong. WVU needs back East and Missouri and Texas A@M with Louisville should be Big 12. Louisville would geographically be closer to Big 12 and Nebraska and Colorado could possibly go back Big 12 as well.

The ACC is too East for Louisville. WVU needs to be ACC with Maryland going back as well. If not ACC then some kind of northeastern conference with Penn State, WVU, Pitt, Maryland, VT, UVA, Rutgers, Syracuse, Boston College, UCONN spearheading a Big East return. In return the basketball schools could be added for non football and bring back the old Big East in hoops with those 10 mentioned. Add Villanova, Georgetown, St Johns and 1 of these 3 Seton Hall, Providence or Rhode Island as the 14 hoops member for basketball. That’s 14 in basketball like it used to be. It would be a powerhouse, low travel conference for everyone. We could bus to most locations. Saving millions.

Why would A&M and Mizzo ever want to leave the SEC for the lame Big12 LOL SILLY TALK

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Long time Penn State fans are probably more familiar with the story than some of the newer generation fans, but here is a quick run down of Paterno's idea at the time.

Paterno tried to get Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Temple, Maryland, Syracuse, Rutgers and Boston College to go in on the idea with him, but they ultimately left Paterno and Penn State hanging.

The Big East eventually was formed under a similar structure to Paterno's idea, and Penn State was left out of the mix. When Penn State attempted to join, the conference turned their back on the school largely due to the state of Penn State's basketball program, a sticking point that was not a hassle when Miami applied for membership a few years later.

What do you think would have happened over time if Paterno's conference idea panned out?

Brush up on your Big East history buddy. You’re not even in the ball park.

 

[xWVU2010x]

A lot of great posts in this thread.

I thinks it’s a combination of a lot of things, I remember not too long ago if you wanted a preview of your school’s team for that year then you basically had to attend the opening game against a tomato can to watch. Now those games are on ESPNU, FS2, or at bare minimum ESPN3 so you can watch anywhere in the country. So IMO that is a major attendance hit for the undesirable games on the schedule as I think a lot of people used to attend those simply because it was the only way to really watch.

Each school will typically get 1-2 guaranteed sell out games and then leverages those games to sell the tickets to the rest of the games, the issue as to why this is no longer working is I think the market is figuring out they can just buy the big ticket on the secondary market for far less than the price of a season ticket and if they really want to go to one of the lesser games the secondary market will have those tickets for basically nothing since there is no excessive demand for them.

The NFL is taking a hit because they have simply priced the average fan out of attending, but make no mistake if they dropped the prices the stadiums would fill up again. WVU could give away tickets to the WVU-Liberty game and there would still be pockets of empties all over the stadium.

 

[Op2]

The Big East wouldn't let PSU in when the Big East was b-ball only. Then PSU joined the all-sports f-ball. Then in response to that the Big East went all-sports. Big East football never did and never would reject PSU.

Even if an all-sports conference had formed with PSU, eventually the Big Ten would have tried to pick off PSU and considering the Big Ten would have been a money increase I don't see any reason why PSU would have turned them down.

As far as the main theme of this thread goes, I agree with some others that have said that the bubble is simply bursting. It had to happen eventually. Costs can only go up so much before people stop paying.

I can remember when it was a big deal that a college head coach made more than the average professor salary. Now there are schools where ASSISTANT COACHES make ten times as much as the average professor.

The cost of attending the games has gone way up AND the games are on TV. You see the game way better on TV. Tailgating is the best part of game day. If I lived in Motown I'd go to tailgates and then go home to watch the game on TV.

 

[WestVirginaHillbilly]

The Big East wouldn't let PSU in when the Big East was b-ball only. Then PSU joined the all-sports f-ball. Then in response to that the Big East went all-sports. Big East football never did and never would reject PSU.

Even if an all-sports conference had formed with PSU, eventually the Big Ten would have tried to pick off PSU and considering the Big Ten would have been a money increase I don't see any reason why PSU would have turned them down.

As far as the main theme of this thread goes, I agree with some others that have said that the bubble is simply bursting. It had to happen eventually. Costs can only go up so much before people stop paying.

I can remember when it was a big deal that a college head coach made more than the average professor salary. Now there are schools where ASSISTANT COACHES make ten times as much as the average professor.

The cost of attending the games has gone way up AND the games are on TV. You see the game way better on TV. Tailgating is the best part of game day. If I lived in Motown I'd go to tailgates and then go home to watch the game on TV.

Thing is most of the money that is generated is not from televisions but from donations. royalties and tickets.

A lot of schools CFB is a social event so people who are attempting to network and to be seen as someone will purchase the high end suites even if not an alum.

 

[Rootmaster]

Thing is most of the money that is generated is not from televisions but from donations. royalties and tickets

Not in the P5 schools lol.

 

[BIGXIIfan 2017]

Penn State(really Joe “knew” Paterno) wanted to keep football revenue but wanted to locked East up. And of course he wanted PSU in the Big East. His Conference idea was a great one. Problem is he was going down the Texas “ shitttty” Conference partner routine. That was not gonna fly. Hello Big Ten.

What are you talking about?
Colorado left because they were always a PAC team. Especially since the 1970’s. The Colorado mindset didn’t sit well with the flatlanders. CU fans didn’t travel east of Boulder and they didn’t feel like they should allow people from Kansas and Oklahoma to visit their state

Nebraska left because starting in the early 2000’s they increased their athletic spending but did not increase their revenue. As someone who supposedly studied finance you should know the end result.
Their academic standing was removed because of this. Nebraska needed more revenue and began to ask the Big XII for a larger portion. It was the other
schools who said no.

Texas A&M left because they wanted in on the LHN and UT and the Big XII called their bluff. More importantly they left because they needed someway to compete against UT.

Missouri left because the SEC with Texas A&M could guarantee more revenue

Texas and the rest of the schools agreed to how the Big XII was ran.
People in Austin do not care for false narratives. It is actually funny because it makes people hate UT and this hate will ruin their program because thier fanatasies will never be reality.

 

[BIGXIIfan 2017]

If Nebraska really wanted to stay they could have pulled an Oklahoma State and got on the phone to their richest alumni.
Warren Buffett attended UNL as an undergraduate.
He could have gave them 50-100 million. Their AD failed them.

More importantly their richest alumni failed them.
Unlike some schools who have rich benefactors UNL can’t say the same.

 

[Rootmaster]

lol. how easily a thread veers off topi.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

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Thing is most of the money that is generated is not from televisions but from donations. royalties and tickets.

A lot of schools CFB is a social event so people who are attempting to network and to be seen as someone will purchase the high end suites even if not an alum.

TV pays billions of dollars to do the games. WVU gets $30 million a year from the Big 12 as its cut. March Madness will bring the NCAA $1 billion a year. That's a pretty big chunk of the money that colleges get for sports. Without it, WVU would be playing Marshall and Fairmont State in league games.

 

[BIGXIIfan 2017]

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TV pays billions of dollars to do the games. WVU gets $30 million a year from the Big 12 as its cut. March Madness will bring the NCAA $1 billion a year. That's a pretty big chunk of the money that colleges get for sports. Without it, WVU would be playing Marshall and Fairmont State in league games.

Not true.
For Texas
The last few years 70-80 has come from royalties, 70-80 in ticket sales, 30-40 million in contributions and 30-40 million in television revenue.

The main revenue from most of the Top 25 is royalties.
Meaning merchandise sales and other things a university places thier name on.

Texas is an outlier as their football program generates more money than the majority of D1 schools do for their entire revenue

 

[Rootmaster]

TV pays billions of dollars to do the games. WVU gets $30 million a year from the Big 12 as its cut. March Madness will bring the NCAA $1 billion a year. That's a pretty big chunk of the money that colleges get for sports. Without it, WVU would be playing Marshall and Fairmont State in league games.

Lol...I actually agree with you. However it is precisely what is wrong with college sports. It is pro ball without the legal and salary trappings. Wouldn't mind regional game schedule and Div III thinking if the balloon bursts and that's where it all ends....back where it began. At least fans and the students at the schools would mean something again.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

What are you talking about?
Colorado left because they were always a PAC team. Especially since the 1970’s. The Colorado mindset didn’t sit well with the flatlanders. CU fans didn’t travel east of Boulder and they didn’t feel like they should allow people from Kansas and Oklahoma to visit their state

Nebraska left because starting in the early 2000’s they increased their athletic spending but did not increase their revenue. As someone who supposedly studied finance you should know the end result.
Their academic standing was removed because of this. Nebraska needed more revenue and began to ask the Big XII for a larger portion. It was the other
schools who said no.

Texas A&M left because they wanted in on the LHN and UT and the Big XII called their bluff. More importantly they left because they needed someway to compete against UT.

Missouri left because the SEC with Texas A&M could guarantee more revenue

Texas and the rest of the schools agreed to how the Big XII was ran.
People in Austin do not care for false narratives. It is actually funny because it makes people hate UT and this hate will ruin their program because thier fanatasies will never be reality.

But but but STFU haha