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Video release of OU player punching woman

My whole point in this is that none of us have any idea of what transpired after the event. We don't know Mixon's demeanor. Did he act defiant? Did he humbly acknowledge for perhaps the first time that he had a serious problem? We don't know who said/did what and with what attitude they said/did it. I know nothing of Mixon's background and what advantages or disadvantages that may have given him in life.

It's easy to say OU should have done this or that. And I might agree with some of the "they really should have done this or that." But we are only on the outside looking in.

Are we looking at an isolated incident in which it may have been tricky to determine the best course of action? Or this a systemic problem that involves multiple players over the years and an administration that is complicit through its negligence like the Baylor situation?

If they helped a young man get his life together then that's great.
If he hasn't actually turned a corner then we will find out. The parking attendant thing is a serious warning light.

It would have struck me as appropriate if he had had a year of eligibility taken away from him by OU. But then .... I have no idea what was going down behind the scenes.

Well, we do know he was suspended for a game this season. Someone dared to give St. Mixon a parking ticket.

So he cursed him out, ripped it up, threw it in his face, then acted as if he was going to run him over with his car.

BUT

We don't know his demeanor, his disadvantages in life, or the events that occurred after this incident.

We can't make judgments...we don't know ANYTHING.
 
Well, we do know he was suspended for a game this season. Someone dared to give St. Mixon a parking ticket.

So he cursed him out, ripped it up, threw it in his face, then acted as if he was going to run him over with his car.

BUT

We don't know his demeanor, his disadvantages in life, or the events that occurred after this incident.

We can't make judgments...we don't know ANYTHING.

This is so disingenuous as to be disgusting. When you posted that info I admitted that I had not heard that before and then went on to say that this was not a good sign.

As a matter of fact I said several times that I knew nothing about him since the incident 2 years ago and you, nor anyone else, said a word about the parking lot incident.

Then when you do post it and I say that it is not a good sign you turn around and blast me.

Like I said .... you have your own issues.
 
I understand a settlement was reached in a civil suit that led to the release of the video. Here is a link to the story detailing the punishment for the actual legal charges brought against Mixon. There is no mention of how the community service was spent or completed nor any indication of any type of counseling mandated or performed.

http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/07/26/joe-mixon-assault-victim-lawsuit-oklahoma-sooners

Thanks. But that says nothing about what OU required of him.

Apparently since I admit that I don't actually know what they required of him and won't pass judgment on him I am some kind of vile being that is to be tar and feathered with mindless accusations.

OU may have, in my eyes, been completely irresponsible. But I would need to know what they did or did not do with Mixon. But I do not know.

That's all I'm saying. But since the parking lot thing has been brought up I have said ... a couple of times ... that is not a good sign.
 
Watching the video, there's clearly something going on between the woman and some others.
Mixon comes in and is talking, and then turns to walk away--and at that point the woman attacked him--pushing him and then slapping him in the face. At that point he retaliates.

Most don't condone hitting a female, but clearly the woman in this incident initiated the violence.

Mixon was charged initially and was punished with a years suspension. What was done to the woman? Probably nothing even though she initiated this.

Assuming he received some anger management training after this. Since no one knows what else went on except the authorities, no reason at this point to add personal biases into what happened or his character.
 
Watching the video, there's clearly something going on between the woman and some others.
Mixon comes in and is talking, and then turns to walk away--and at that point the woman attacked him--pushing him and then slapping him in the face. At that point he retaliates.

Most don't condone hitting a female, but clearly the woman in this incident initiated the violence.

Mixon was charged initially and was punished with a years suspension. What was done to the woman? Probably nothing even though she initiated this.

Assuming he received some anger management training after this. Since no one knows what else went on except the authorities, no reason at this point to add personal biases into what happened or his character.

Well, her jaw was wired shut so she ate out of a straw for a few weeks.

The story is Mixon didn't know the girl. Supposedly he made an insult to the girl's friend (the small male in the video....a homosexual slur allegedly), which was the reason she got nasty.

St. Mixon was just protecting himself from that 5 ft, 110 lbs., female. He had no choice but to break her face.

....yep, no reason AT ALL to question St. Mixon's character.
 
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Has anyone received any word on Mixon's health? Man, that little girl sure gave him a good shove to the chest. She could have killed him! She's violent! Lock her up!
 
My whole point in this is that none of us have any idea of what transpired after the event. We don't know Mixon's demeanor. Did he act defiant? Did he humbly acknowledge for perhaps the first time that he had a serious problem? We don't know who said/did what and with what attitude they said/did it. I know nothing of Mixon's background and what advantages or disadvantages that may have given him in life.

It's easy to say OU should have done this or that. And I might agree with some of the "they really should have done this or that." But we are only on the outside looking in.

Are we looking at an isolated incident in which it may have been tricky to determine the best course of action? Or this a systemic problem that involves multiple players over the years and an administration that is complicit through its negligence like the Baylor situation?

If they helped a young man get his life together then that's great.
If he hasn't actually turned a corner then we will find out. The parking attendant thing is a serious warning light.

It would have struck me as appropriate if he had had a year of eligibility taken away from him by OU. But then .... I have no idea what was going down behind the scenes.

I've been reading this thread and it looks to me as if you're really nitpicking on the mentality element of Mixon and what he was thinking, temperament, etc. What was going on behind the scenes? He punched a girl in the face with his fist. She didn't look like a black belt to me where he seriously had to defend himself. You're giving him too much leeway to wiggle out of.

The point is, what difference does it make? Because the fact is he hauled off and punched, using his fist, a girl in the face breaking it in four places-and the extra point is, it was all over words. Yes, she struck him twice but he obviously instigated the incident by walking up to the table.

Also, as he begins walking away without anything physical, she turns on him so he obviously said something to piss her off. And after she pushes him in the chest, he spits on her and that's when she punched him before getting punched.

What difference does it make what his past was like or what he was thinking? He obviously lacks a certain maturity and discipline to be able to completely walk away from that situation.

I think the bigger question is, regardless if they knew each other previously, but how much punishment is enough for crimes/offenses by college athletes?

How long should someone pay for something? Does he deserve to have his entire college career taken away from him anywhere in the country? It would seem the NCAA would have to make that a rule for certain offenses or else he could have a right to sue over collusion or something like that.

Again, the question is, how much punishment is enough for certain things? One solution should be that along with legal penalties and probation by the law, the NCAA should have a collegiate probation where if a person commits any more offenses while on a college career length of probation, he should be mandatory kicked off that team and out of that school and let him reapply somewhere else. Forcing that person to start over again and probably stripping any athletic eligibility from him in any college. That would certainly be a good rule taking a Stoops-type decision out of coaches hands.
 
How long should someone pay for something? Does he deserve to have his entire college career taken away from him anywhere in the country? It would seem the NCAA would have to make that a rule for certain offenses or else he could have a right to sue over collusion or something like that.

Again, the question is, how much punishment is enough for certain things? One solution should be that along with legal penalties and probation by the law, the NCAA should have a collegiate probation where if a person commits any more offenses while on a college career length of probation, he should be mandatory kicked off that team and out of that school and let him reapply somewhere else. Forcing that person to start over again and probably stripping any athletic eligibility from him in any college. That would certainly be a good rule taking a Stoops-type decision out of coaches hands.

I think these are all legitimate questions. All I ever said was that I don't know all of the details such that I could pass"ultimate" judgment on Mixon. I could very well be disgusted with how OU handled this situation. I just don't know everything they did behind the scenes and I don't their reasoning.
 
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