The second amendment

[Gunny46]

I'm not defending them. You know that.

Try again, big boy.

You absolutely did. Look I get you support the LGBTG community. I don't care. As I have explained numerous times members of the community are being radicalized to cause Anarchy by the same Marxist Groups that were involved in the previous events. The CCP is involved. You are in the shaping the battlefield stage of a future war. I suggested you stop arguing with me about it and wake the fvck up. The people doing this don't give a shit about your social justice. You're being played while they are preying on the mentally ill.

 

[SoCo]

You absolutely did. Look I get you support the LGBTG community. I don't care. As I have explained numerous times members of the community are being radicalized to cause Anarchy by the same Marxist Groups that were involved in the previous events. The CCP is involved. You are in the shaping the battlefield stage of a future war. I suggested you stop arguing with me about it and wake the fvck up. The people doing this don't give a shit about your social justice. You're being played while they are preying on the mentally ill.

But fentanyl doesn't kill people. People kill people. It's the people that are the problems, not fentanyl, right?

And just telling me I am defending a group when I am mocking your silly logic doesn't make it true. Try again.

 

[Mntneer]

But fentanyl doesn't kill people. People kill people. It's the people that are the problems, not fentanyl, right?

And just telling me I am defending a group when I am mocking your silly logic doesn't make it true. Try again.

Fentanyl in a bottle on the counter is not killing anyone. That is 100% correct, so what other strawman arguments are you looking to make?

 

[Gunny46]

But fentanyl doesn't kill people. People kill people. It's the people that are the problems, not fentanyl, right?

And just telling me I am defending a group when I am mocking your silly logic doesn't make it true. Try again.

You can't talk your way out of this. Stop defending Narco-Terroism.

 

[SoCo]

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You can't talk your way out of this. Stop defending Narco-Terroism.

Never said anything about terrorism. I'm merely mocking your silly logic but you are too stupid to realize this.

 

[SoCo]

Fentanyl in a bottle on the counter is not killing anyone. That is 100% correct, so what other strawman arguments are you looking to make?

A gun on a counter is not killing anyone either.

You were saying something about a strawman?

 

[atlkvb]

Every news station I have watched

I 100% guarantee none of them has said a word about this:

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer revealed on Thursday that on March 1, 2017 — less than two months after Joe Biden left office as Barack Obama’s vice president — State Energy HK Limited, a firm affiliated with Chinese Communist Party-backed energy company CEFC China Energy, wired $3 million to Biden family associate Rob Walker.

Here’s how the $3 million from China was distributed (Inside linked article)

Where the money went: The Bidens and Biden associates who received Chinese cash

The windfall was subsequently divvied up over a period of about three months to at least three members of the Biden clan, and two Biden family associates.

nypost.com

Yeah I hooked up "the big guy" pretty good

Coke head-Hunter Biden

*editor's note The Biden administration refuses to answer any questions related to the details in this article, and Biden still denies any knowledge of these transactions among his own family members.

 

[Gunny46]

Never said anything about terrorism. I'm merely mocking your silly logic but you are too stupid to realize this.

You now have now tripled down on defending Narco Terrorism. Take a break. Go for walk. Then study up on the subject.

 

[dave]

It's not the right tool unless you live alone.

I have a four legged alarm to identify intruders vs household.

 

[dave]

Fentanyl doesn't kill people. People kill people.

I'm starting to see how this works.

Well to some degree if people don't manufacture fentanyl and bring it into the country or mix it with other drugs, it doesn't kill anyone.

 

[Gunny46]

I have a four legged alarm to identify intruders vs household.

You want a precision gun if others live in the house. If your marksmanship lacks get a light and laser combo. It's not the right tool regardless what someone told you. Dogs sleep through stuff sometimes or someone's throws them a steak.

 

[dave]

You want a precision gun if others live in the house. If your marksmanship lacks get a light and laser combo. It's not the right tool regardless what someone told you. Dogs sleep through stuff sometimes or someone's throws them a steak.

Ok. I will do what is best to protect my family. Why is what you tell me more correct than what someone who is highly trained in CQB told me?

 

[Gunny46]

Ok. I will do what is best to protect my family. Why is what you tell me more correct than what someone who is highly trained in CQB told me?

Because someone highly trained in CQB wouldn't have told you that. I could go through a hundred senerio's but it's real simple. It's not the right tool unless you want one of your loved ones to catch a piece of 00 buckshot. Use something with more precision. Preferably with frangible ammo being you live in a neighborhood.

It's something people tell people because they think they can't shoot accurate enough. I'm telling you to go range and practice. With the right tool for job.

 

[Gunny46]

Randi Weingarten calls for gun confiscation: Must 'have the courage to do' what Australia, New Zealand did

American Federation of Teachers president Randi Weingarten renewed the call for an assault weapons ban in the wake of the Nashville school shooting.

www.foxnews.com

Randi Weingarten calls for gun confiscation: Must 'have the courage to do' what Australia, New Zealand did​

 

[dave]

Because someone highly trained in CQB wouldn't have told you that.

Except they did.

It has nothing to do with thinking I can't shoot accurately. I am not worried about a family member catching buckshot.

 

[Gunny46]

Except they did.

It has nothing to do with thinking I can't shoot accurately. I am not worried about a family member catching buckshot.

That's the problem. You need to. Unless you live alone without neighbors you probably should consider what I am telling you.

Like I said I could go through a hundred senerio's but you need something that precision and ammo that doesn't over penatrate. It's basic stuff and you are the HRT until help arrives.

 

[atlkvb]

Hey @Gunny46 I'm a fairly decent shot at close range (within 150 ft) and I go to the range to chart my marksmanship...am I OK ripping into someone who enters my home without permission using this?

Ruger P94
The Ruger P series is a line of centerfire semi-automatic pistols made by Sturm, Ruger & Company produced from 1985 to 2013. The P-series pistols were designed for military, police, civilian and recreational use

 

[Gunny46]

Hey @Gunny46 I'm a fairly decent shot at close range (within 150 ft) and I go to the range to chart my maarksmanship...am I OK ripping into someone who enters my home without permission using this?

Ruger P94
The Ruger P series is a line of centerfire semi-automatic pistols made by Sturm, Ruger & Company produced from 1985 to 2013. The P-series pistols were designed for military, police, civilian and recreational use

Never handled it. So can't discuss it.

Google frangible ammo if you live with others or have neighbors.

What you can shoot accurately is best.

Look at something with a light rail.

They make lights that have a laser built in.

If you can't afford a new gun with a rail look up techniques using a handheld light and go to the range and practice.

 

[atlkvb]

Never handled it. So can't discuss it.

Google frangible ammo if you live with others or have neighbors.

What you can shoot accurately is best.

Look at something with a light rail.

They make lights that have a laser built in.

If you can't afford a new gun with a rail look up techniques using a handheld light and go to the range and practice.

That Ruger is an older weapon, but I fire it regularly at the range and as I said...I'm a fairly decent shot within 150ft. Have no idea what "trails" from the gun after I fire it, but I can testify it has a pretty decent "kick".

 

[Gunny46]

That Ruger is an older weapon, but I fire it regularly at the range and as I said...I'm a fairly decent shot within 150ft. Have no idea what "trails" from the gun after I fire it, but I can testify it has a pretty decent "kick".

What caliber?

 

[dave]

That's the problem. You need to. Unless you live alone without neighbors you probably should consider what I am telling you.

Like I said I could go through a hundred senerio's but you need something that precision and ammo that doesn't over penatrate. It's basic stuff and you are the HRT until help arrives.

You act like you understand my situation and you don't.

 

[Gunny46]

You act like you understand my situation and you don't.

What's your situation? Do you live out in the middle of nowhere by yourself? If you do use your shotgun to defend yourself. If not I gave you sound advice. I don't live next to you or with so honestly give a shit what you do.

 

[dave]

I don't live next to you or with so honestly give a shit what you do.

Yet you keep offering me sound advice that isn't relevant to me.

 

[Gunny46]

Yet you keep offering me sound advice that isn't relevant to me.

It applies to anyone that lives with others and has neighbors. If that's not you then don't worry about. Everyone needs to consider what I'm pointing out.

 

[atlkvb]

What caliber?

It's a .40-caliber. Holds 9 rounds in the cartridge. (with one round chambered)

The Ruger P94 Could Be the Best P-Series Handgun

The “Wonder Nines” overwhelmed the American firearms industry by introducing something totally new—and at an affordable price point.

nationalinterest.org

excerpt
The .40 S&W round’s popularity has receded in recent years, due to what many consider an unpopular recoil action and the marketing of more lethal nine-millimeter ammunition. The P94 itself was discontinued in 2004, ten years after the first introduction, and today in its place Ruger offers the SR40 pistol.

The Ruger P94 was a historically underrated handgun. Although eventually outdated by more modern designs, it was accurate, rugged and reliable. It is still well regarded by Ruger aficionados and was an important stepping stone to the company’s contemporary line of pistols.

 

[SoCo]

Well to some degree if people don't manufacture fentanyl and bring it into the country or mix it with other drugs, it doesn't kill anyone.

Right but if people don’t have a firearm in their hand, it doesn’t kill anyone.

Personally, I think the “X” doesn’t kill people, people kill people argument is just dumb

 

[dave]

Right but if people don’t have a firearm in their hand, it doesn’t kill anyone.

Personally, I think the “X” doesn’t kill people, people kill people argument is just dumb

Well as long as bad guys are gonna have guns I am gonna have one too. I won't kill anyone unless it is defending myself or my family.

I'm willing to deal with the consequences of that.

 

[atlkvb]

So logically if you follow the "X" doesn't kill people, people kill people argument, you'd have to conclude without "X" no one would kill anyone else. (but if people don’t have a firearm in their hand, it doesn’t kill anyone)

That is dumb, but it's the only logical conclusion you must follow if that argument is to remain intellectually consistent.

 

[atlkvb]

Well as long as bad guys are gonna have guns I am gonna have one too. I won't kill anyone unless it is defending myself or my family.

I'm willing to deal with the consequences of that.

I personally would have no problem if everyone carried at all times. I'd even argue for it to be mandatory (unless you are mentally deranged...which might include all Leftists)

 

[rog1187]

Right but if people don’t have a firearm in their hand, it doesn’t kill anyone.

Personally, I think the “X” doesn’t kill people, people kill people argument is just dumb

Here's what I'd like to know and it's probably out there and I just haven't looked:

1. How many gun owners versus the number of those people that commit a crime with a gun
2. Since the argument always turns to AR-style weapons - how many are out there versus how many have been used in mass shooting

 

[dave]

I personally would have no problem if everyone carried at all times. I'd even argue for it to be mandatory (unless you are mentally deranged...which might include all Leftists)

People who really want to carry a gun do it now. At least in most places.

 

[atlkvb]

People who really want to carry a gun do it now. At least in most places.

Correct. Also it's rare someone who carries is unable to defend themselves if they're accosted by a criminal with another weapon. If criminals know the person they are about to attack with a gun also has one to shoot back, that is likely the best deterrent to them even trying it in the first place.

That Nashville shooter didn't attack her first target because she saw armed personnel inside who would shoot back at her evil ass.

 

[rog1187]

People who really want to carry a gun do it now. At least in most places.

Libtards on MSM were harping about how the upcoming NRA convention is not allowing guns into the convention center. They probably have people there checking for guns and probably even have security in case they need it - a point lost on them. If you're going to make something a soft-target by not allowing guns, then you had better have other measures because someone will bring a gun in to do bad things.

 

[atlkvb]

Here's what I'd like to know and it's probably out there and I just haven't looked:

1. How many gun owners versus the number of those people that commit a crime with a gun
2. Since the argument always turns to AR-style weapons - how many are out there versus how many have been used in mass shooting

That's an interesting question. I'd bet if someone bothered to compile those stats you're asking for it would NOT argue for more gun restrictions due to the increased incidents of violence among gun owners using those particular weapons.

 

[Gunny46]

It's a .40-caliber. Holds 9 rounds in the cartridge. (with one round chambered)

The Ruger P94 Could Be the Best P-Series Handgun

The “Wonder Nines” overwhelmed the American firearms industry by introducing something totally new—and at an affordable price point.

nationalinterest.org

excerpt
The .40 S&W round’s popularity has receded in recent years, due to what many consider an unpopular recoil action and the marketing of more lethal nine-millimeter ammunition. The P94 itself was discontinued in 2004, ten years after the first introduction, and today in its place Ruger offers the SR40 pistol.

The Ruger P94 was a historically underrated handgun. Although eventually outdated by more modern designs, it was accurate, rugged and reliable. It is still well regarded by Ruger aficionados and was an important stepping stone to the company’s contemporary line of pistols.

40 and 10 are for experienced shooters that can manage the recoil and muzzle flip. Google the high thumbs pistol grip and see if that helps.

If not move to 9mm. The 45 acp is great for CQB and recoils straight back without the muzzle flip of the 40 and 10.

What you really need is an AR-15 chambered in 5.56 or 300 Blackout with a red dot and light mounted. You will be more accurate with that. Get some frangible ammo. That solves over penatration.

Get yourself a plate carrier with a minimum of level 3 + plates.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Get yourself a plate carrier with a minimum of level 3 + plates.

This I haven't done yet.

 

[atlkvb]

40 and 10 are for experienced shooters that can manage the recoil and muzzle flip. Google the high thumbs pistol grip and see if that helps.

If not move to 9mm. The 45 acp is great for CQB and recoils straight back without the muzzle flip of the 40 and 10.

What you really need is an AR-15 chambered in 5.56 or 300 Blackout with a red dot and light mounted. You will be more accurate with that. Get some frangible ammo. That solves over penatration.

Get yourself a plate carrier with a minimum of level 3 + plates.

Excellent advice. I'm sort of attached to my P94, as I've managed my wrist action to keep the recoil from destroying my aim. However your tips are right on time as I've been considering moving to a 9mm pistol to carry. (The Ruger is kept in my house) the AR is definitely also on my bucket list.

Thanks

 

[TarHeelEer]

Excellent advice. I'm sort of attached to my P94, as I've managed my wrist action to keep the recoil from destroying my aim. However your tips are right on time as I've been considering moving to a 9mm pistol to carry. (The Ruger is kept in my house) the AR is definitely also on my bucket list.

Thanks

I had different intentions for my AR, and put a digital night scope on it. The fox I have that visits doesn't visit often enough yet. I'll be waiting.

 

[Gunny46]

Air Force secretary says he's seen nothing 'more disturbing' in 50-year career than this move by China

Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall says China's development of its nuclear arsenal is “disturbing," and could lead to a Cold War-level threat against the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

Air Force secretary says he's seen nothing 'more disturbing' in 50-year career than this move by China​

 

[Gunny46]