I find it really interesting (I really do, not being TIC) that people will lose their $hit over a football player kneeling during the anthem but argue that someone who consciously shot and killed US soldiers who were fighting under the direction of the US Government under the authority of the US Constitution and were being lead into battle by the US Flag should be “remembered” and honored. Just seems hard to reconcile those two views.
Silent Sam will be put back up on campus within 90 days of Monday’s riot.
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Honestly, I live in Virginia and find it odd that we have a Lee-Jackson day. It certainly doesn’t offend me but I do find it a bit odd.
Anyone who is advocating for this statue being put back up................ should have to stand in front of it and read the original speech at its dedication ceremoney:
@tjebarr you taking?
@tjebarr you taking?
No but guys that literally fought on the side of it wouldn't be flaunted as a daily reminder either.
and the National Presidents day also??, since those presidents actually owned slaves. Jackson himself never owned slaves, actually Thomas Jackson was a hero in Lexington among African Americans because he and his wife set up a school to teach them to read and write. where does it all stop?
At statues praising racists, mostly............ dedicated by racists, historically.......... and appreciated today and "protected" by racists within the white nationalist community.
Yes. Why is this so hard? Who gives a shit how long they've been doing it?
It's just so crazy how Germans know who Joseph Goebbels was without statues or a "Goebbels Day."
We as a Country started when we came to a Continent and murdered the occupants of the land , but I guess some of you are proud of that History right ?
In what realm are the oppressed and oppressors to be dealt equal treatment, and why?
Shirley you are high if you are trying to claim fairness.
It stops where those people took up arms and killed tens of thousands of other Americans - a war they also started. Why do you keep asking dumb questions?
If the left, and it is the left, removes all the bad memories of our nations past what would that do for our future? It has been said that "Those who can't remember the past are doomed to repeat it". Do we really want to allow any group of people to control the minds of the people of our Nation? No sarcasm intended.....
You lose all your brownie points if you take up arms against the country to fight to preserve something as abominable as slavery. That is a lot fvcking different than having slaves at a time when there wasn't the same level of movement to abolish it.
Each state seceded declaring they were doing so to protect the institution of slavery. If you took up arms for that cause, it didn't matter if you thought you were Jesus Hussein Christ at that point, you are a traitor and do not deserve praise. Anyone trying to glorify the Confederacy today are no better than the traitors who chose to fight for it then.
No one says they should be removed from history. They belong in history, not glorified with fvcking monuments as if they did something good.
No, it's all History dumbass, certain people just choose what they want to change instead of learning from History and not repeating the same mistakes. If you don't want a statue in your town square , fine. The elected officials should vote to remove it and put it in a museum where people can learn from it instead of letting a bunch of thugs commit Vandilism.
Sure I also like defending traitorous people who took up arms against Americans by completely missing the point too.
Tremendous irony having so many West Virginians caping for the Confederacy.
They all chose to be on the wrong side of history fighting for abominable causes. Next, are you going to proclaim Hitler was a good artist and we should remember him for that?
I really have to wonder if none of you ever picked up a history book in your lives. Let me break it down for those of you unable to reach the point:
THERE :clap: IS :clap: A :clap: DIFFERENCE :clap: BETWEEN :clap: BEING :clap: REMEMBERED :clap: IN :clap: HISTORY :clap: AND :clap: BEING :clap: GLORIFIED :clap: WITH :clap: MONUMENTS.:clap:
It's on UNC's campus, not in the town of Chapel Hill. Last night was tuition-paying students letting the admins know how they feel about the statue.
It does but the mods and board owner agree so somehow it's fair to stay.
Now if I posted "Heroes remove monument of traitor to the nation"...
I don't know. Ask boomers with bruised egos who complained every time their loser kids didn't win anything why they asked for participation trophies in the first place.
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The monument was built specifically to honor the UNC students who fought and died in the war, thats why its on campus.
Nah you're right. This is a very cool statue, my dude. Glad you're defending it.
The Confederate veteran that gave that speech was a racist bigot and a disgrace, I agree.
I have a problem with any entity that declares war on this country. Civil war feels different, but it's really not. Shooting Americans is shooting Americans. Honoring those who led the charge is unpatriotic. It's not that complicated.
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and the statue is a symbol of that mentality..................... and that can not be argued when that mentality is put on display at said statue's unveiling.
1913. Let's say that again. 1913.
What was the significance? You mean the people who just lost the war weren't putting these up? Wonder why? Was it because they fvcking knew better? Could it have been a resurgence in suppressing African Americans in the south under the guise of "southern pride?"
It doesn't take Neil DeGrasse-Tyson to figure this shit out, guys.
