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Pat McAfee says "something special"......what do you think he means?

Rodriquez was playing weak schedules. He was the only coach that reached that 8–9-win threshold you threw out. Look at the 2005 schedule it was a joke. In that era there was about 3-4 games that you could say we had a chance of losing. Today there is about 4 games where you could say we would win for sure. There maybe four power conferences and not six but there are more members in that four then there were in those six. The only teams currently not a member of the power 4 who were power 6 members are Uconn , USF, Wash state and Oregon State but you replace them with Smu, Ucf, Houston, Byu and Cincinatti. The majority of recruits do not want to play in the Big 12 or Acc. They want to go to the Big 10 and Sec where the money is. These conferences make double in tv revenue. There NiL capabilities are far superior. It's the reason you see significant improvement in some of these middle of the pack programs in these conferences. I agree we shouldn't be getting throttled by some of the teams we play but if your program is at the bottom of the big 12 in NIL like some of the podcasts have said on quite few occasions then you should expect it. The big 12 is the best paycheck we can get at the moment but after that it's not a good situation for us. You have to be playing games in your recruiting footprint and that's not currently happening. When Rod had the success, you speak of was Wvu playing in middle America? or was it playing on the east coast and Florida where we belong.
You asked what you said that had my "panties in a twitch".......I present you Exhibit A (above)......your posts is nothing but how WVU "sucks" and was only successful with "weak schedules". There's a few others schools you could enjoy, we won't hold you back if you want to leave.
 
Where do you see that Rich is the top candidate for the UCF job? I have looked at a few articles naming candidates for that job and his name is not listed.
Scott Frost, Former UCF/Nebraska Head Coach
Could UCF look to its past for its next head coach? Frost guided the Knights to a 19-7 mark from 2016-17, including a 13-0 season in his final year at the helm. His tenure at Nebraska ended in dismissal, as the Cornhuskers went 16-31 from 2018-22. Frost currently works as an analyst with the Rams.


Potential at UCF is an untapped talent rich state that could win the Big 12 on a regular basis with the right coach.
 
Scott Frost, Former UCF/Nebraska Head Coach
Could UCF look to its past for its next head coach? Frost guided the Knights to a 19-7 mark from 2016-17, including a 13-0 season in his final year at the helm. His tenure at Nebraska ended in dismissal, as the Cornhuskers went 16-31 from 2018-22. Frost currently works as an analyst with the Rams.


Potential at UCF is an untapped talent rich state that could win the Big 12 on a regular basis with the right coach.
He's a good coach. Going to Nebraska was a mistake. Everyone was hyped about Rhule early on when they were winning, but what did they finish? Yeah, 6-6.
 
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Winning at Nebraska is easier than winning at WVU imo.
It used to be. I’m not sure now. If there’s a blueblood who lost their blueblood status, it’s Nebraska. In a lot of ways they’re facing the same challenges as WVU. Limited instate recruiting amd same population as WV. They have their tradition and sellout attendance. Does it matter today? Idk
 
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Geez, I leave for a couple of years, and here you all are back talking about the shithead. He's an egomaniac and I care how he left us. You clearly fail to grasp the seriousness of his transgressions. There are many people that will never let it go and I don't blame them. He accused the University of racism, fought his buyout, delayed payments and shit on the University and the state, and called Michigan recruits while he was still employed here. He lost his chance.
 
Geez, I leave for a couple of years, and here you all are back talking about the shithead. He's an egomaniac and I care how he left us. You clearly fail to grasp the seriousness of his transgressions. There are many people that will never let it go and I don't blame them. He accused the University of racism, fought his buyout, delayed payments and shit on the University and the state, and called Michigan recruits while he was still employed here. He lost his chance.

You came back after 2 years to whine about a coach who hurt your feelings 20 years ago lol? This kind of stuff makes me want to hire Rich Rod more than anything else. I'm assuming you are like Bru, who is so far removed from being a real fan that he hasn't even been to a game or spent a dime on the local economy in many many years. The futon fans. You guys have no skin in the game. Hiring Rich would suit you right. Go root for UGA.
 
Geez, I leave for a couple of years, and here you all are back talking about the shithead. He's an egomaniac and I care how he left us. You clearly fail to grasp the seriousness of his transgressions. There are many people that will never let it go and I don't blame them. He accused the University of racism, fought his buyout, delayed payments and shit on the University and the state, and called Michigan recruits while he was still employed here. He lost his chance.

If it was highly likely he could replicate the success he had from 2005-2007, then I could see that salving his transgressions 17 years ago. However, I just don't see that as likely given his recent track record. So if he is more likely to deliver Holgorsen level results, I think we should look for candidates with less baggage and more potential.

If he does get the job, I will hope I am wrong and support him until it becomes clear that his ceiling is below what WVU is capable of. Not for his sake, but for WVU's.
 
You came back after 2 years to whine about a coach who hurt your feelings 20 years ago lol? This kind of stuff makes me want to hire Rich Rod more than anything else. I'm assuming you are like Bru, who is so far removed from being a real fan that he hasn't even been to a game or spent a dime on the local economy in many many years. The futon fans. You guys have no skin in the game. Hiring Rich would suit you right. Go root for UGA.
Your knowledge of me leaves a lot to be desired, but that's beside the point. You want a 61 y.o. (a geezer!) coach who had three good seasons, as you yourself say, 20 years ago? And then, nothing. He had it all at Michigan and was a failure. He had it all at Arizona and was a failure. Who's living in the past?
 
Your knowledge of me leaves a lot to be desired, but that's beside the point. You want a 61 y.o. (a geezer!) coach who had three good seasons, as you yourself say, 20 years ago? And then, nothing. He had it all at Michigan and was a failure. He had it all at Arizona and was a failure. Who's living in the past?
A failure at Michigan is very subjective. Is 3 years enough when his win total improved every single year of that stretch. It’s worth noting Michigan did very well the following year with Rods players. If anything, maybe Michigan was impatient.
 
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Your knowledge of me leaves a lot to be desired, but that's beside the point. You want a 61 y.o. (a geezer!) coach who had three good seasons, as you yourself say, 20 years ago? And then, nothing. He had it all at Michigan and was a failure. He had it all at Arizona and was a failure. Who's living in the past?

Stick with Brown then. I would take Rich Rod back in a heartbeat. Hes a good coach. I think he would do wonders in Morgantown compared with what we've had in recent years.
 
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Character, morals, ethics and integrity matters to me whether it is a coach of my team, a political candidate or even someone I associate with. If you have proven you are scum, I simply don't recognize the person. I wasn't always that way but something happened a few years ago that changed me. Want to criticize my high horse, I don't give a shit as you just prove you have a lack of character and don't matter to me.

With that being said, whoever wears WV on their chest in a position they are in, I will support in the role they are in. I won't be a hater and make negative comments in public. I live the lessons my parents taught me; don't have anything good to say, keep it to yourself until the proper venue to express. Don't say anything behind a person's back you won't say in front of them. Treat others as you would like to be treated.
 
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Character, morals, ethics and integrity matters to me whether it is a coach of my team, a political candidate or even someone I associate with. If you have proven you are scum, I simply don't recognize the person. I wasn't always that way but something happened a few years ago that changed me. Want to criticize my high horse, I don't give a shit as you just prove you have a lack of character and don't matter to me.

With that being said, whoever wears WV on their chest in a position they are in, I will support in the role they are in. I won't be a hater and make negative comments in public. I live the lessons my parents taught me; don't have anything good to say, keep it to yourself until the proper venue to express. Don't say anything behind a person's back you won't say in front of them. Treat others as you would like to be treated.
That stance is assuming WVU showed integrity with Rich Rod. Have you ever thought Rod might’ve had a valid reason to leave? Have you ever had a job you loved and hated your manager or CEO? Have you ever made a bad decision based on immaturity and grown up to learn from it and regret it? I personally don’t give a shit how you feel, but things happen.
 
That stance is assuming WVU showed integrity with Rich Rod. Have you ever thought Rod might’ve had a valid reason to leave? Have you ever had a job you loved and hated your manager or CEO? Have you ever made a bad decision based on immaturity and grown up to learn from it and regret it? I personally don’t give a shit how you feel, but things happen.

I know Ed Pastilong personally and have heard a lot about what was going on back then. In depth conversation actually. Most people would've left when Rich Rod did, especially for way more money than WVU was going to pay him and his staff under Ed. It wasn't all him for sure. He had requirements to stay and they werent getting met. There was also some drama with big bird manchin. It is what it is. I'm not butt hurt over it at all.
 
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They were
Yep they totally were too quick to react. Installing his system there was going to be an even bigger conundrum there than it was here. Going from 1970 run up the middle most of the time like the UM offense was back then to the RR spread or any spread is a huge difference.

But on top of that their roster of 5 star players didn't wanna be coached hard because they weren't used to it. Rich fit there about like oil fits with water but they were still trending up.

Arizona is a joke of a football school and the fact thst he won 10 games there ever is a huge deal, but still again not a good fit. RR is now at a place where he fits better culturally, and he's winning becsuse of it. He also fits at wvu and alway did.
 
Character, morals, ethics and integrity matters to me whether it is a coach of my team, a political candidate or even someone I associate with. If you have proven you are scum, I simply don't recognize the person. I wasn't always that way but something happened a few years ago that changed me. Want to criticize my high horse, I don't give a shit as you just prove you have a lack of character and don't matter to me.

With that being said, whoever wears WV on their chest in a position they are in, I will support in the role they are in. I won't be a hater and make negative comments in public. I live the lessons my parents taught me; don't have anything good to say, keep it to yourself until the proper venue to express. Don't say anything behind a person's back you won't say in front of them. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

My apologies for whatever happen to you to get you to get you to jump on the high horse. I highly doubt Wren will hire RR, because of the split fan base, but at least you will be on board and give it a chance if somehow he does. Whoever they hire has my full support to see what they can do for 4 years. If they are not getting it done, 4 years is a good time to move on no matter who it is.

I was not really on the RR bandwagon before but I am now. After 6 years of sucking because of a pansy coach I'm ready for someone demanding and edgy like Rich. Besides that, it could potentially be the best comeback story in a long time maybe ever if he pans out.
 
I'd say RR had more chances than anyone in the working world would get and surprisingly more than anyone in the public eye would get.

Don't you remember?

He announced he was leaving four months after he renegotiated his contract and "his stated long-term commitment to the Mountaineers."

He held already the WVU administration by the balls the year before during the Alabama fiasco and WVU gave him everything he asked for. And you talk about "skin in the game," the fans of WVU, who are not rich by any means, paid higher ticket prices in 2007 to support the team, build new facilities, give him each of his demands, and share in the pride of it all.

He lied to the 2 million hardworking people who give a lot to this program.

But I've read it wasn't all about the money, Rod's problems were with the administration. It was that Rod could not stand to be told no.

I'd say Michigan was very patient, after going 3–9 in 2009, the worst season in school history and breaking a 33 year streak of post-season bowl games appearances.

Then the 2009 recruiting violations, the first time the Michigan football program was charged with major violations.

He was fired after the 2010 season. He was 0–3 against Ohio State and 0–3 against Michigan State.

But Arizona said, 'ol RichRod deserves another chance. That is, until one of his female assistants filed a multimillion-dollar claim accusing him of sexually harassing her and creating a hostile work environment.

It's very hard to objectively root for this individual at any level.
 
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Some very good commentary on here which is unusual but welcomed.

I loved him as a player as we share some history from he was raised and my family. I was tooting his horn as the OC at Tulane and Clemson. Was thrilled when he got the HC job. The teams when White took over at QB were even better than the Major years which were outstanding. The end of his career at WVU was despicable and I'm not talking about the Pitt loss even though one of my best friends the past 20 years is a Pitt loyalist and ribs me constantly over it. He will never be forgiven and it certainly will never be forgotten or excused.

I know for certain some of the rumors of him off the field are true. I have personal knowledge of it. That also will never be forgotten or excused by me. I honestly don't think it will be with those responsible with the university. But if it is, I will act the same in public as I have the past 25 years or so of this board.
 
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