Pat McAfee says "something special"......what do you think he means?

[MD Mountaineer]

It's great your RIchRod's buddy. I rooted for him too at one time. I remember him as an all-stater at North Marion and then being pumped to see him play at WVU. That was pretty rare back then. I know he grew up just miles from WVU and his family is still there. He was born and bred - a native son, played college ball for us, married the cheerleader, and was given his first head coaching job by us. It must feel pretty awesome to be successful at your Alma Mater. To take them all the way to the brink of a NC.

But, he was pretty fortunate to have White, Slaton, Schmidt, at the same time. I think his career shows that it really is the "Jimmies and the Joes." Think of the great "genius" Belichick was, circa 2019. If only he had retired then.

The truth is RR has a fairly dismal record since 2007. He could probably be had for a bargain, I guess. Who else would want him? His innovative schemes from 2003 have pretty much been shut down by the defenses today.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Exactly. Rodriguez was attempting to build a stable elite program and a lot of people behind the scenes had no clue what it takes. Nehlen spoiled them by giving them 20 years of winning on a dollar general store budget. Nehlen gave us a glimpse of what was possible at WVU. Rodriguez was building on what Nehlen started and tried taking it higher and was succeeding. After awhile of being told no repeatedly, broken promises, and being sought after by Alabama and Michigan, he went somewhere he thought he’d be appreciated. It didn’t work out. I don’t understand why people are unwilling to give him another chance.

You nailed it. He was building an elite program at WVU for sure. They definitely told him no on a lot of things he knew we needed to build a top tier program. On top of it, Rich Rod didn't want to play Marshall either and it was a big deal. He wanted to schedule tougher teams for out of conference games. The opposite of Neal Brown of course. But Joe Manchin used his power to get us into the lame ass Coal Bowl, and that very much upset Rich Rod in a big way. I heard it directly from the decision maker at the time. Rich was pissed. Ice the cake with death threats after the Pitt game and he was done. What Rich really did wrong was leave without saying anything. Otherwise all he did was take a better job after a lot of frustration and egos colliding. I am not going to hold a 20 year hurt butt over that personally. He's a good coach who knows WVU and what it means to coach here. Hire him, imo.

 

[WVUALLEN]

You Roddies need to get over it. He's not coming.

 

[locustwv]

You Roddies need to get over it. He's not coming.

I agree I don’t think he’s coming. I like this jon sumrall. Has ties to Troy but he seems to be a winner. Gave Kansas state fits earlier in the year.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

You Roddies need to get over it. He's not coming.

I agree I don’t think he’s coming. I like this jon sumrall. Has ties to Troy but he seems to be a winner. Gave Kansas state fits earlier in the year.

Both of you are probably right. I’d be shocked if Rodriguez got the job.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

You nailed it. He was building an elite program at WVU for sure. They definitely told him no on a lot of things he knew we needed to build a top tier program. On top of it, Rich Rod didn't want to play Marshall either and it was a big deal. He wanted to schedule tougher teams for out of conference games. The opposite of Neal Brown of course. But Joe Manchin used his power to get us into the lame ass Coal Bowl, and that very much upset Rich Rod in a big way. I heard it directly from the decision maker at the time. Rich was pissed. Ice the cake with death threats after the Pitt game and he was done. What Rich really did wrong was leave without saying anything. Otherwise all he did was take a better job after a lot of frustration and egos colliding. I am not going to hold a 20 year hurt butt over that personally. He's a good coach who knows WVU and what it means to coach here. Hire him, imo.

WVU still has people without a clue. They’re still not committed to truly playing with the big boys. They’d rather knowingly pass on winning again with Rod because that would mean they’d be admitting they made a mistake back then. Looking at the candidates we know about, I don’t see anyone even close to Jimbo and Rod. Everyone else on that list should be a distant 3rd and back. Sure, maybe Summal, Kotelnicki, Schumann will become elite HC’s. We don’t know. It’s a gamble. Passing on Fisher and Rod is crazy to me, but that’s what we’ll do I’m sure. I’ll hope for the best and support whoever we get.

 

[WVUALLEN]

WVU still has people without a clue. They’re still not committed to truly playing with the big boys. They’d rather knowingly pass on winning again with Rod because that would mean they’d be admitting they made a mistake back then. Looking at the candidates we know about, I don’t see anyone even close to Jimbo and Rod. Everyone else on that list should be a distant 3rd and back. Sure, maybe Summal, Kotelnicki, Schumann will become elite HC’s. We don’t know. It’s a gamble. Passing on Fisher and Rod is crazy to me, but that’s what we’ll do I’m sure. I’ll hope for the best and support whoever we get.

There are better coaches than Rod and Fisher out there. Fisher is a waste of time. Rod there is no reason to think he has success like his last tour here.

Since leaving WVU Rod is 58-57 at the P4 level. Time to look in another direction and try and remember it's been 17 years since he used his shredder here in Morgantown.

As far as Fisher. He's an even bigger gamble.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

There are better coaches than Rod and Fisher out there. Fisher is a waste of time. Rod there is no reason to think he has success like his last tour here.

Since leaving WVU Rod is 58-57 at the P4 level. Time to look in another direction and try and remember it's been 17 years since he used his shredder here in Morgantown.

As far as Fisher. He's an even bigger gamble.

I disagree. I think Rod immediately comes in and wins 8-9 a year and improves like before. Fisher I’d be a little more cautious, but his track record is a great. I see no reason Fisher couldn’t also win 8-9 here. Both are proven. The rest are not. We need immediate results without gambling on assistants to become HC

 

[spartansstink]

I believe who WVU ultimately hires will show where WVU stands in the thick of things.

If WVU goes with a "retread" like Rich, then the interest in the program from bigger name coaches was virtually non-existent. Some may even argue the same thing with Jimbo but at the least he has some rings to show for it.

If WVU has to dip into the ranks of Troy, etc. again for a coach, it will show that even the mid-level P5 coaches aren't interested.

If WVU can't get a P5 coach, or even an elite coordinator, to become it's head coach, then basically all they are doing is hoping for a genie in a bottle.

Needless to say, a lot will be learned from this next pick...

 

[WVUALLEN]

I believe who WVU ultimately hires will show where WVU stands in the thick of things.

If WVU goes with a "retread" like Rich, then the interest in the program from bigger name coaches was virtually non-existent. Some may even argue the same thing with Jimbo but at the least he has some rings to show for it.

If WVU has to dip into the ranks of Troy, etc. again for a coach, it will show that even the mid-level P5 coaches aren't interested.

If WVU can't get a P5 coach, or even an elite coordinator, to become it's head coach, then basically all they are doing is hoping for a genie in a bottle.

Needless to say, a lot will be learned from this next pick...

KSU, ISU, Kansas and Texas Tech like their Genie's.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I disagree. I think Rod immediately comes in and wins 8-9 a year and improves like before. Fisher I’d be a little more cautious, but his track record is a great. I see no reason Fisher couldn’t also win 8-9 here. Both are proven. The rest are not. We need immediate results without gambling on assistants to become HC

What has Rod proven in P4 outside of WVU?

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

Hell I’m on board now!!! Bring ol’ Rod back!!!

I knew you’d come to our side brother!

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

What has Rod proven in P4 outside of WVU?

He did pretty good at Arizona. Keep in mind, this is Arizona. The lowest of the lows. He had them winning and led them to a conference title in in 2014 and an appearance in the Fiesta Bowl. Was steadily building up Arizona after the Stoops failure and then Kevin Sumlin takes over and takes a hot dogshit on the program for 3 years.

At Michigan, he should have changed up his staff. He wasn’t terrible but not achieving what he thought. I was think if he was given that next year, he could have done an even better job than Brady Hoke.

 

[SKYHAWKBALL]

has anyone been hearing much chatter around Dan Mullen?

 

[deedoubleyou]

There are better coaches than Rod and Fisher out there. Fisher is a waste of time. Rod there is no reason to think he has success like his last tour here.

Since leaving WVU Rod is 58-57 at the P4 level. Time to look in another direction and try and remember it's been 17 years since he used his shredder here in Morgantown.

As far as Fisher. He's an even bigger gamble.

Most of what you say is nothing except a guess though. A real gamble in my eyes is hiring a coordinator or someone who has never coached at the p4 level at all. Both Fisher and Rich Rod have coached p4 at a high level and they are the only ones who have. Careful examination of Rich rods time at UM and Zona shows a much bigger picture than it looks on paper. Fisher too at far as A&m, where he actually won in the hardest conference in all of football, just not to the level of their expectations just like every coach before him and probably after. You can't buy a ring. A&M reminds me of Dan Snider and the Redskins in that way. I think it has more to do with A&M than Fisher tbh.

They are the best and most proven coaches on the list. One of them has 2 rings. Everyone else is the real gamble.

 

[deedoubleyou]

I disagree. I think Rod immediately comes in and wins 8-9 a year and improves like before. Fisher I’d be a little more cautious, but his track record is a great. I see no reason Fisher couldn’t also win 8-9 here. Both are proven. The rest are not. We need immediate results without gambling on assistants to become HC

Agreed 100%. I can see both of those guys instantly making WVU a big 12 contender, but at the minimum being a pretty consistent 8+ win team. The Little 12 is wide open right now. It's time to bring in a winner coach who is proven.

The reality is that Wren will probably gamble on a coordinator or a small school coach, but I wish he wouldn't.

 

[spartansstink]

KSU, ISU, Kansas and Texas Tech like their Genie's.

For now...

There was a time we all liked Brown here, too

 

[WVUALLEN]

For now...

There was a time we all liked Brown here, too

These others have produced winners. Brown produced .500 record.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Most of what you say is nothing except a guess though. A real gamble in my eyes is hiring a coordinator or someone who has never coached at the p4 level at all. Both Fisher and Rich Rod have coached p4 at a high level and they are the only ones who have. Careful examination of Rich rods time at UM and Zona shows a much bigger picture than it looks on paper. Fisher too at far as A&m, where he actually won in the hardest conference in all of football, just not to the level of their expectations just like every coach before him and probably after. You can't buy a ring. A&M reminds me of Dan Snider and the Redskins in that way. I think it has more to do with A&M than Fisher tbh.

They are the best and most proven coaches on the list. One of them has 2 rings. Everyone else is the real gamble.

Read your thoughts and see your answer. Lying to yourself is not the answer. Future can not be predicted. There are better coaches that actually win. Just ask...
Kansas
KSU
ISU
Texas Tech
Indiana
ASU (coach had never been a HC wins Big 12 regular season)
Deion Sanders

Many others successful many not so much.

Careful examination of Rod shows 58-57 in P4 level while not at WVU. Fisher failing at FSU ran like a coward toward Texas A&M only to become an average coach. There are better and more efficient coaches out there at P4 and G5 levels. Anytime you search a coach you either fail or you don't.

Any coach proven or unproven coach might find success here and they might not. Doesn't matter the level. You're living in past where Rod found lightning in a bottle at WVU once and used it to run off burning bridges behind him.

If Rod is hired I will support him but you need to be prepared for him to bomb. Fisher he's just dirty.

 

[MountaineerWV]

I agree I don’t think he’s coming. I like this jon sumrall. Has ties to Troy but he seems to be a winner. Gave Kansas state fits earlier in the year.

Sounds a lot like another coach though........wait.......what was his name.......Neal Brown.

 

[WVUALLEN]

He did pretty good at Arizona. Keep in mind, this is Arizona. The lowest of the lows. He had them winning and led them to a conference title in in 2014 and an appearance in the Fiesta Bowl. Was steadily building up Arizona after the Stoops failure and then Kevin Sumlin takes over and takes a hot dogshit on the program for 3 years.

At Michigan, he should have changed up his staff. He wasn’t terrible but not achieving what he thought. I was think if he was given that next year, he could have done an even better job than Brady Hoke.

Rod losing record in PAC 12.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

Read your thoughts and see your answer. Lying to yourself is not the answer. Future can not be predicted. There are better coaches that actually win. Just ask...
Kansas
KSU
ISU
Texas Tech
Indiana
ASU (coach had never been a HC wins Big 12 regular season)
Deion Sanders

Many others successful many not so much.

Careful examination of Rod shows 58-57 in P4 level while not at WVU. Fisher failing at FSU ran like a coward toward Texas A&M only to become an average coach. There are better and more efficient coaches out there at P4 and G5 levels. Anytime you search a coach you either fail or you don't.

Any coach proven or unproven coach might find success here and they might not. Doesn't matter the level. You're living in past where Rod found lightning in a bottle at WVU once and used it to run off burning bridges behind him.

If Rod is hired I will support him but you need to be prepared for him to bomb. Fisher he's just dirty.

It’s literally all a gamble. Some coaches fit, some don’t. Some used to fit and then don’t. Some are lucky and some are not. Some can coach and others are overrated. We all have our own opinions.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Read your thoughts and see your answer. Lying to yourself is not the answer. Future can not be predicted. There are better coaches that actually win. Just ask...
Kansas
KSU
ISU
Texas Tech
Indiana
ASU (coach had never been a HC wins Big 12 regular season)
Deion Sanders

Many others successful many not so much.

Careful examination of Rod shows 58-57 in P4 level while not at WVU. Fisher failing at FSU ran like a coward toward Texas A&M only to become an average coach. There are better and more efficient coaches out there at P4 and G5 levels. Anytime you search a coach you either fail or you don't.

Any coach proven or unproven coach might find success here and they might not. Doesn't matter the level. You're living in past where Rod found lightning in a bottle at WVU once and used it to run off burning bridges behind him.

If Rod is hired I will support him but you need to be prepared for him to bomb. Fisher he's just dirty.

I totally disagree. I'm behind whoever Wren hires, but count me in the RR camp.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

I totally disagree. I'm behind whoever Wren hires, but count me in the RR camp.

Same

 

[locustwv]

I truly think the will announce RR after his game tonight or tomorrow. Just my gut feeling.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I totally disagree. I'm behind whoever Wren hires, but count me in the RR camp.

I will support Rod being hired. But he's not going to be.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I truly think the will announce RR after his game tonight or tomorrow. Just my gut feeling.

You forget Tulane is playing tonight?

 

[deedoubleyou]

I will support Rod being hired. But he's not going to be.

Perhaps not but if Kendrick is as all in on Rod as McAfee then I can see it happening. I hope it does tbh.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Perhaps not but if Kendrick is as all in on Rod as McAfee then I can see it happening. I hope it does tbh.

Are you sure about that? Baker is looking for a man of integrity that can win. Rods missing part of that equation.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

I will support Rod being hired. But he's not going to be.

WV News reporting some reports are saying he will be offered the job. He’s interviewing today. I’m not insider and I’m not saying it will happen. You might want to reconsider your thought. My gut tells me he’s certainly a serious candidate at this moment. If he wins tonight, that would obviously help his chances.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Are you sure about that? Baker is looking for a man of integrity that can win. Rods missing part of that equation.

Integrity? We tried that with Brown, didn't work. Some of the best coaches sucked as human beings, going back a long time ago too. Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler.........they had their flaws. I mean stories have surfaced talking about how golden boy John Wooden was one of the first coaches to bend the rules and pay players to play for UCLA.

Do I believe Rich Rod is the "right guy" for the job? I do. I think he brings that extra bit of intensity and edge that WVU has lacked since he left. I think he will stay here this time, too. It's just a gut feeling, but it is what I believe.

Now, do I believe Rich Rod will get hired? I think it's about a 10% chance he does. My gut is telling me that we are about to name a young coach with little/no head coaching experience and will go down the same road we did with Brown for the next 4-6 years. I also ate chili last night, so that could be my gut feeling........

 

[ThePunish-EER]

Integrity? We tried that with Brown, didn't work. Some of the best coaches sucked as human beings, going back a long time ago too. Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler.........they had their flaws. I mean stories have surfaced talking about how golden boy John Wooden was one of the first coaches to bend the rules and pay players to play for UCLA.

Do I believe Rich Rod is the "right guy" for the job? I do. I think he brings that extra bit of intensity and edge that WVU has lacked since he left. I think he will stay here this time, too. It's just a gut feeling, but it is what I believe.

Now, do I believe Rich Rod will get hired? I think it's about a 10% chance he does. My gut is telling me that we are about to name a young coach with little/no head coaching experience and will go down the same road we did with Brown for the next 4-6 years. I also ate chili last night, so that could be my gut feeling........

I agree, I’ll be more shocked if he gets the job. I hope he does, but I also know how things work.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Integrity? We tried that with Brown, didn't work. Some of the best coaches sucked as human beings, going back a long time ago too. Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler.........they had their flaws. I mean stories have surfaced talking about how golden boy John Wooden was one of the first coaches to bend the rules and pay players to play for UCLA.

Do I believe Rich Rod is the "right guy" for the job? I do. I think he brings that extra bit of intensity and edge that WVU has lacked since he left. I think he will stay here this time, too. It's just a gut feeling, but it is what I believe.

Now, do I believe Rich Rod will get hired? I think it's about a 10% chance he does. My gut is telling me that we are about to name a young coach with little/no head coaching experience and will go down the same road we did with Brown for the next 4-6 years. I also ate chili last night, so that could be my gut feeling........

It's obvious nobody here knows anything about integrity. Rod has none. Brown has integrity but no skills for coaching P4.

Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler from different eras of 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Woody fired for punching an opposing player and attacking an official in the Gator Bowl. Bo Schembechler another coach with a cover up of pedophilia Anderson. One former player claims Schembechler told him to "toughen up" when he reported an incident of Anderson fondling his testicles during an examination. Schembechler's son Matt Schembechler came forward, saying he was molested at age ten by Anderson during a routine physical in the 1960s, and that Schembechler went to "great lengths" to ensure Anderson kept his job after Matt's mother told.

Rod another pervert (but at least towards women, I guess that's a plus).

Rod ran to Michigan as fast he could burning bridges, shredding player files and claiming West Virginia is nothing special.

If Rod gets this job he better win right off the bat or the state will crumble crushing Rod underneath it.

Rod 58-57 at P4 level after leaving WVU. He's nothing special.

 

[WVUALLEN]

WV News reporting some reports are saying he will be offered the job. He’s interviewing today. I’m not insider and I’m not saying it will happen. You might want to reconsider your thought. My gut tells me he’s certainly a serious candidate at this moment. If he wins tonight, that would obviously help his chances.

No, I stick by my words. I'll support him if hired but don't think he will be. If he loses tonight 13-9 then we all know for sure he's coming.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Brown has totally ruined me on finding another nice guy coach. Never again and today's pathetic interview sealed the deal. Just give me a hard nose coach who is demanding and disciplinary.

Rich Rod is one who fits the mold. His system, going from 3 yards and a cloud of dust Michigan was going to take longer to install even than WVU. He was on his way up. Everybody runs a spread now but that was back in the day where installing his kind of system actually took real time and much different kind of players that UM had.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

Brown has totally ruined me on finding another nice guy coach. Never again and today's pathetic interview sealed the deal. Just give me a hard nose coach who is demanding and disciplinary.

Yes, bring back Rod!

 

[deedoubleyou]

Yes, bring back Rod!

100%!!!

 

[deedoubleyou]

The thing about integrity is everybody assumed Jordan Leslie had it as well, because those guys are all just a bunch of nice guys all around, right. Except apparently he gets drunk and beats his wife. So just bring back Rich Rod. He may get laid sometimes but he's not a wife beater. It's beyond time we quit worrying about their private lives anyway. The Jerry springer effect needs to go away.

I mean how do we really know Neal doesn't beat on Brook sometimes? Ill tell you how. We don't. We just assume based on him being a nice guy in public. That nice guy stuff could be a deceptive facade.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I mean how do we really know Neal doesn't beat on Brook sometimes? Ill tell you how. We don't. We just assume based on him being a nice guy in public. That nice guy stuff could be a deceptive facade.

Making these type of accusations are extremely dangerous. Hope you have proof of what you just typed.

 

[locustwv]

You forget Tulane is playing tonight?

True. Could be sulmann. I hope I spelled that right. I still think it’s RR