OU & TX to move on. Finally!
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Not going to happen now. Too much non football grant money at risk. Too high of an exit fee kick.
Everything is negotiable, I’m actually surprised at the price tag of this one though, $100m to get out 1 measly season early? I know that’s pennies to UT, OU and the SEC, but talk about a crap ROI
Google says SEC pays an avg of $49m per school while the Big 12 is $28m, I would guess the Texas/OU inclusion raises that, but given they’re forfeiting $100m to get out a year early seems like they’re giving up $50m each to make about $35m instead for that season. Like I said, “chump change” but seems like a lot to deal with for 1 season.
The SEC wont make $100 million in their new deal, theyll be getting around $50 - $60 mil per school. Then when you add in bowls, conference payouts for playoffs in an expanded playoff, playoff participation, ncaa touranments etc, their number should get closer to $100 mil towards the end of their new deal which ends in the 2030s.
The new BIG 12 will also be getting far more than the 31.6 mil avg by then- in fact will have another new deal by 2031.
The new BIG 12 will also be getting far more than the 31.6 mil avg by then- in fact will have another new deal by 2031.
Your full of shit as usual.
Zach Barnett March 18, 2022
Data firm projects SEC schools topping $100 million in annual revenue by end of decade
And the Big Ten won't be far behind.That's according to Navigate, a sports and entertainment market research company.
Their research projects the Big Ten projecting $75 million per school per year by 2025 and the SEC crossing $100 million per school by 2028.
Meanwhile, the ACC, Big 12, and Pac-12 are projected to top out in the mid-50s.
The Big Ten will begin a new TV contract in 2023-24 that is expected to generate $1 billion per year. The SEC signed a $3 billion contract with ESPN that starts in 2024.
The Big 12 and Pac-12 will both begin new contracts in the middle of the decade, but aren't expected to approach B1G/SEC levels. The ACC, meanwhile, is stuck on a deal with ESPN that pays $17 million per school per year through 2036, the price required by ESPN to create the ACC Network.
Reminder: these are just projections. Though the future they project is likely more accurate than not.
The entire SeC payout wS $49 mil while the entire BIG 12 payout wS $44 million. Cant figure out why people keep trying to pretend the Sec was that far ahead of the BIG 12? They werent.
Projection. Not reality. And likely written by an sec fan.Your full of shit as usual.
Zach Barnett March 18, 2022
Data firm projects SEC schools topping $100 million in annual revenue by end of decade
And the Big Ten won't be far behind.
That's according to Navigate, a sports and entertainment market research company.
Their research projects the Big Ten projecting $75 million per school per year by 2025 and the SEC crossing $100 million per school by 2028.
Meanwhile, the ACC, Big 12, and Pac-12 are projected to top out in the mid-50s.
The Big Ten will begin a new TV contract in 2023-24 that is expected to generate $1 billion per year. The SEC signed a $3 billion contract with ESPN that starts in 2024.
The Big 12 and Pac-12 will both begin new contracts in the middle of the decade, but aren't expected to approach B1G/SEC levels. The ACC, meanwhile, is stuck on a deal with ESPN that pays $17 million per school per year through 2036, the price required by ESPN to create the ACC Network.
Reminder: these are just projections. Though the future they project is likely more accurate than not.
Real numbers for payouts exist. They can be found.
What people are doing is taking every penny brought in for everything by SEC schools and comparing that to tv deal only money for BIG 12 schools. Also skewed even nore when the SEC last year or two distributed monies based on their new contracts to members, Which of course will have to be made up once the contracts actually start.
Here is REALITY
SEC schools expect to eventually pull in more than $70 million in conference distribution by the end of the backloaded agreement.
Notice NOT $100 million per school and not in the beginning. Their new deal ends in the 2030s btw.
SEC schools expect to eventually pull in more than $70 million in conference distribution by the end of the backloaded agreement.
Notice NOT $100 million per school and not in the beginning. Their new deal ends in the 2030s btw.
Guess that must be why every team in America is praying the Big 12 calls them.
Notice you posted more BS. I guess Big 10 only 50 million. Wonder how they figure all this small dollars from 3.6 Billion and 7 Billion contract. Must be Cfebucky math.
Some trolling idiots don’t seem to understand basic math. They don’t understand either that conferences receive a certain amount from tv which includes an inventory of football and basketball games, Maybe a CCG in either Sport and Mens and women’s. Money for third tier rights is in there. And then the bulk amount is delivered to the conference over a period of years, or even decades. Then there are distributions to the schools. The conference may also get an equal share as in the case of the acc or sec.
On top of this, each conference gets a certain amount of money for the existence of the playoff ( whether you have a team in it or not.)
Schools ncaa monies for playing in certain ncaa events is distributed to the conferences and then each conference distributes it as they see fit to members.
then conferences also have bowl income, playoff participation income, academic pay based on how athletes are performing etc etc.
People intentionally trying to attack the BIG 12 or raise up ie the SEC are taking every single source of revenue the sec is projecting they will get by 2030 something per school, then taking the base tv money only for BIG 12 schools and ignoring all other sources of BIG 12 revenues that will also be coming to them— and then pretending it’s an apples to apples comparison. It isn’t.
On top of this, each conference gets a certain amount of money for the existence of the playoff ( whether you have a team in it or not.)
Schools ncaa monies for playing in certain ncaa events is distributed to the conferences and then each conference distributes it as they see fit to members.
then conferences also have bowl income, playoff participation income, academic pay based on how athletes are performing etc etc.
People intentionally trying to attack the BIG 12 or raise up ie the SEC are taking every single source of revenue the sec is projecting they will get by 2030 something per school, then taking the base tv money only for BIG 12 schools and ignoring all other sources of BIG 12 revenues that will also be coming to them— and then pretending it’s an apples to apples comparison. It isn’t.
The SEC signed a new $300 million deal with ESPN last year that gives the network rights to all SEC football games starting in 2024 and is expected to bump the conference's annual distribution to its members to about $68 million.
CBS is currently paying $55 million per year for the package and is expected to hold onto the rights for the three seasons remaining on its contract.
While the full deal still has years to go before kicking in, ESPN will as soon as next season begin airing up to 14 non-conference football and 20 non-conference men’s basketball games per year on ESPN+. The platform will be able to stream one such football game per school and up to two men’s basketball games.
by Paulsen 2 years ago
ESPN/ABC will pay the SEC "in the low $300 million range" annually, according to Sports Business Journal, a significant increase on the $55 million the league makes per year from its contract with CBS.
The SEC generated $720.6 million in revenue and averaged $45.3 million in payouts to the 13 member schools that received full shares during the 2019 year. (Mississippi did not get a full share because of its football team was banned from postseason play.)
During the same year, the Big 12 reported payouts ranging from $38.2 million to $42 million, the ACC from $27.6 million to $34 million and the Pac-12 about $32.2 million.
The increased revenue will allow SEC football programs in particular to make even larger financial investments in facilities, coaching staffs and recruiting budgets. As one marker of the league's willingness to outbid the rest of the Power Five, the SEC had 10 of the 15 highest-paid assistant coaches and five of the seven highest-paid staffs altogether during the 2019 season.
SEC teams have been at the forefront of college football's ongoing arms race. South Carolina recently invested $50 million in a new operations center. Missouri paid $98 million to refurbish its football facility. Ongoing renovations at Alabama's Bryant-Denny Stadium come with an estimated price tag of $288 million.
The contract will also set the bar for the Big Ten, which is in the midst of a six-year, $2.64 billion contract with CBS, FOX and ESPN that expires in 2023.
By 2024, there may be three distinct if undefined groups in college football: the Group of Five, the Power Five and then the Power Two, the SEC and Big Ten, well ahead of the rest of the NCAA.
Paul Myerberg
USA TODAY
in 2024, the per-school payouts could reach $70 million or more. , which distributed $55 million per school in fiscal 2021. The SEC also has an extended rights deal with ESPN for $300 million a year that will begin after the 2023 football season.
It's so funny. I remember arguing/debating with people here and in the BL that said the GOR was impossible to break, and that " I didn't understand how it worked" lol.
Just like real life, everything is negotiable...
WVU went from $10 million annual maximum in Big East to $42.6 million from the Big 12. Even when you deduct extra travel costs, a HUGE financial bonanza for WVU because Oliver Luck, with his Texas connections, got WVU into the Big 12. WVU about fourfold better off financially in the Big 12 compared to the Big East.
Can't compare those two Dopey. Different times. Far different situation. And as for Ollie "Can't Suceed at Anything " Luck his meddling with the coaches is the main reason the football program sucks. Worst AD ever.
Texas and OU had 1 year remaining in the GOR. They could have walked and paid the conference nothing and lost only 1 years distribution. The conferences one option then would be lengthy and costly lawsuits with administrators subpoenaed. In the end they would be gone anyways.
Now the B 12 has the defectors out of the way with no more destabilization from them and no more sabotage and can move on with one purpose.
In the acc still many years on that deal- question will be how many years of pay are FSU, UNC, maybe Clemson willing to give up to move sooner? Plus will the other league members negotiate their exit? Doubtful until they have little choice in the matter
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