ot: Erin Andrews got 55Mill for being filmed doing

[GetYaNumbersUp]

why are you comparing this case to coal miners? the two are not similar in any way.

and the fact that she is famous is relevant to the case. your average jane isn't doing sideline reporting at a football game with thousands of fans chanting at her because they have seen her naked.

there is a price on that, and clearly the people that matter thought the award was appropriate.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

you can stress whatever you'd like, but how do stop an employee from violating policy?..people are hired, they let you see want you to see...the only thing you know about them is their education level and their criminal and in some cases their driving record...This is far from the first time something like this has happened...Teenage girls were filmed in a High School gym shower with a hidden camera..it's happened in clothing stores in dressing rooms..many, many cases...Andrews got an award for who she is..

None of that matters. Businesses are responsible for their employees actions. That's just how it is and you won't change it.

Your right, Andrews got an award for who she is...

You see she was targeted for a crime because of who she is, and this became a national story because who she is, and millions of men rushed to the internet to watch the video precisely because of who she is....so when it's time to pay up, who she is matters.

 

[WESTBGVA]

None of that matters. Businesses are responsible for their employees actions. That's just how it is and you won't change it.

Your right, Andrews got an award for who she is...

You see she was targeted for a crime because of who she is, and this became a national story because who she is, and millions of men rushed to the internet to watch the video precisely because of who she is....so when it's time to pay up, who she is matters.

they have policies and procedures in place that are supposed to be followed..The families of the 32 students killed at Va Tech only received less than 48 mil to be split between them because only the shooter was responsible for the crime...I also think her award will be overturned on appeal and it should be

 

[TexasforevEER]

they have policies and procedures in place that are supposed to be followed..The families of the 32 students killed at Va Tech only received 11mil to be split between them because only the shooter was responsible for the crime...I also think her award will be overturned on appeal and it should be

I agree that the verdict and the $55M award will be overturned on appeal. Something like maybe $150,000 would be in order. Besides, will money fix the problem? I think not. Unless your a lawyer!

 

[Darth_VadEER]

they have policies and procedures in place that are supposed to be followed..The families of the 32 students killed at Va Tech only received 11mil to be split between them because only the shooter was responsible for the crime...I also think her award will be overturned on appeal and it should be

Policies and procedures that weren't followed.

This is about negligence.

It's not about what situation was worse, or more tragic, it's about how negligent the parties were. That's the measuring device.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I agree that the verdict and the $55M award will be overturned on appeal. Something like maybe $150,000 would be in order. Besides, will money fix the problem? I think not. Unless your a lawyer!

It may or may not be overturned. An appeal could also backfire, depending on TN laws. They could see their liability go from 49% to 99%.

It doesn't matter if money actually fixes anything. Nothing can fix the situation, what's done is done and you can still watch the video online and probably can forever. The crime is an ongoing violation of her.

It's a big amount, but as we've discussed it's mostly not real money and I won't shed any tears for a company who did what they did and then acted like un-humans afterwards.

Their real character was displayed and their lack of compassion and empathy really did them in...imo, they would have gotten off easier.

 

[WESTBGVA]

Policies and procedures that weren't followed.

This is about negligence.

It's not about what situation was worse, or more tragic, it's about how negligent the parties were. That's the measuring device.

in that case any disgruntled, spite filled employee could go rogue and take down the company that they work for anytime they choose to.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

in that case any disgruntled, spite filled employee could go rogue and take down the company that they work for anytime they choose to.

No, because that would be malice, and would show intent and be criminal.

At which point the company would be a victim.

Would it still harm the company? Sure. Could the company still be on the hook? Maybe depending on the situation.

That's why they have judges and juries, depositions and investigations.

It's all about how negligent a party acted, not their intentions (they didn't intend to give her room number to a dangerous stalker...but they did, but since they didn't intend to, it's not a criminal act). The jury felt the hotel was very negligent in this case,

Im not sure what you're so outraged about. None of this effects you, or has any connection to the other cases you've mentioned.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I just don't get the vitriol and hate over this, she was targeted for a serious crime. A legitimate and presumably cash rich business entity failed her, terribly and then acted poorly in the aftermath.

In the end she'll see, maybe around $15 million, which I think is totally reasonable.

 

[WESTBGVA]

No, because that would be malice, and would show intent and be criminal.

At which point the company would be a victim.

Would it still harm the company? Sure. Could the company still be on the hook? Maybe depending on the situation.

That's why they have judges and juries, depositions and investigations.

It's all about how negligent a party acted, not their intentions (they didn't intend to give her room number to a dangerous stalker...but they did, but since they didn't intend to, it's not a criminal act). The jury felt the hotel was very negligent in this case,

Im not sure what you're so outraged about. None of this effects you, or has any connection to the other cases you've mentioned.

I know what the element of intent is lol..I also know that some states place a cap on their liability if an employee violates policies...some also have sovereign immunity ...but the businesses are fair game...

 

[PriddyBoy]

I bet the stalker does very little time.

I think I saw where he'd already served his time.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I know what the element of intent is lol..I also know that some states place a cap on their liability if an employee violates policies...some also have sovereign immunity ...but the businesses are fair game...

Were the miners/VT cases ended in settlements? Remember this was an actual judgement. You'd think a case like this would settle. Sounds like Andrews was just angry and went for the throat.

51% of this judgement does not exist.

The hotel will appeal, but instead of overturning, the parties will settle, perhaps.

Attorneys will take 40% and the tax man will be calling. I say she pockets under $10 million, $15 tops.

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

I thought money a plaintiff receives from a settlement or judgement is non taxable? I know that's the case in personal injury lawsuits.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I thought money a plaintiff receives from a settlement or judgement is non taxable? I know that's the case in personal injury lawsuits.

Judgement without physical injury, just emotional distress can be taxed.

 

[JIMEER86]

The hotel employee revealed to a STALKER her reservation at the hotel AND room number. The STALKER was not prevented by hotel staff from altering the peep hole on her room door. This is HORRIBLE!!!!! Ever been stalked, ever known anyone that was? That hotel should pay big time, just like they are now. Good for Erin, she had to go through even more to get this award. I wasn't a fan.....I am now! She's a LOT tougher than you think!

agree they should be punished but 55MM seems very high. the problem is that we all pay for these kinds of suits via higher insurance premiums. the insurance companies are like Vegas - they don't lose money over the long run

 

[TexasforevEER]

I think $150,000 would have been plenty. The lawyers take $50,000 and the world moves on. Put the stalker in jail for about 15 years. Case closed. The employees at Marriott get a scarlet I AM AN IDIOT tattooed on their forehead.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Spot on. And keep in mind, she won't see $55 million. She will see a few million but nowhere near $55, don't focus on the number.

Absolutely. It will be stalled and negotiated downward significantly. And the attorneys will get about one-third, which I have no trouble with. When I filed a class action lawsuit and won my attorneys got $750,000, paid by the newspaper that lost the lawsuit, so it didn't come out of my reimbursements. So far I've benefitted about $30,000 from the reimbursement and reinstatement of my retirement-day heathcare coverage.

I don't begrudge my attorneys getting that money.

My son was injured in a car accident and his attorney got 30% of the settlement. No problem. You focus on the amount you get. Everybody has to make a living.

 

[TexasforevEER]

My 5th ex-wife sued me a few years ago and ole Warez won in court. I had the judge on the take. He was eating my world famous pickles right out of the jar..............in the courtroom! Money ain't everything. Or is it?

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I think $150,000 would have been plenty. The lawyers take $50,000 and the world moves on. Put the stalker in jail for about 15 years. Case closed. The employees at Marriott get a scarlet I AM AN IDIOT tattooed on their forehead.

$150,000?

She'll be required to reimburse her attorneys for the cost of the case, which is probably near $1 million.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

$150,000?

She'll be required to reimburse her attorneys for the cost of the case, which is probably near $1 million.

Not if it was contingency case, which is probably was, because she's a celebrity.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Not if it was contingency case, which is probably was, because she's a celebrity.

Her attorneys will get 40% (fees) of the judgement. Then in addition, she needs to reimburse for the costs of preparing the case, which will be an additional $800 - $1 million.

 

[WESTBGVA]

Were the miners/VT cases ended in settlements? Remember this was an actual judgement. You'd think a case like this would settle. Sounds like Andrews was just angry and went for the throat.

51% of this judgement does not exist.

The hotel will appeal, but instead of overturning, the parties will settle, perhaps.

Attorneys will take 40% and the tax man will be calling. I say she pockets under $10 million, $15 tops.

Her attorneys will get 40% (fees) of the judgement. Then in addition, she needs to reimburse for the costs of preparing the case, which will be an additional $800 - $1 million.

where do you get 40%? most only charge 33 and I once had an outstanding lawyer who only charged 25.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

where do you get 40%? most only charge 33 and I once had an outstanding lawyer who only charged 25.

It's just an educated guess. 40% is common.

 

[The Dunedein]

$150,000?

She'll be required to reimburse her attorneys for the cost of the case, which is probably near $1 million.

With all due respect, i disagree. I would be stunned if the case expenses were even half that amount. This was not a product liability case or a medical malpractice case; i doubt it was expert-intensive like those types of cases dealing with scientific or medical issues. I would estimate less than 200,000 to 250,000 for this particular type of case.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

With all due respect, i disagree. I would be stunned if the case expenses were even half that amount. This was not a product liability case or a medical malpractice case; i doubt it was expert-intensive like those types of cases dealing with scientific or medical issues. I would estimate less than 200,000 to 250,000 for this particular type of case.

I read an online article that used that figure, I have no idea if it's accurate.

I was responding to a poster who said $150,000 would have been fair. My point was that wouldn't even cover costs.

 

[TexasforevEER]

I read an online article that used that figure, I have no idea if it's accurate.

I was responding to a poster who said $150,000 would have been fair. My point was that wouldn't even cover costs.

Darth..........................dirty rice. I had the dirty rice. Warez

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

It's just an educated guess. 40% is common.

It starts at 33% but if you cannot settle it becomes 40% once you file suit.